Tilly
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And yet:“She has over him the same right of sexual cohabitation he has over her.” (Tafsir for 2:178).I don't think so. Like I stated that women have equality to sexual appreciation. Yet, they get forcibly raped and other various barbarious actions. Women don't have a say in shit, yet, they get sexual equality? Inconsistent..ummm ok. Deny what the hadith actual says if you want to.Bullshit-----there is NOTHING voluntary about either male or female circumcision. Women in islam have NO CHOICE in sexual activity----
it is the RIGHT of their "wali" -----their GUARDIAN by either virtue of marriage
(ie husband) or owner by virtue of slavery-----ie the owner of the female slave---by purchase or by capture in war or by virtue of the DHIMMIS ORPHAN LAW. Try to be honest FOR A CHANGE
I don't disagree with what you said. I was just posting what it actually says. Islam is FAR from consistent. No religion is.
Islam is quite consistent I would describe it as a LOT more consistent than is christainity------there are no significant muslim populations in the world in which female circumcision is ENTIRELY absent------even in places in which circumcision of females was entirely unknown before ISLAM got there
In islam, a man even has the right to rape a woman in front of her husband! I don't remember the cause for that to be a just action, but it is "legal" nonetheless.
you want to DEFINE what you IMAGINE to be "sexual equality" that you claim exists "IN ISLAM" ?-----I am ready for the comic routine
And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise(2:228).
“They are a garment for you and you are a garment for them…” (Al-Baqarah: 187) Wife neglect is as sinful as a wifes neglect to her husband.
“Among the rulings of marriage is that each spouse is allowed to derive sexual pleasure from the other.” [ Radd al-Muhtar, 3.4]
Not to mention the Quran mentions that the purpose of marriage is to retain sukun. Tranquility and peace or something along those lines
HUSBAND'S RIGHTS
1. HUSBAND'S DESIRES MUST BE MET AT ONCE
Man's sexual needs are considered so urgent that it is better for food to burn in the oven than a man to burn in waiting for his wife to satisfy his desire. If she refuses, the angels of heaven will turn against her.
"The prophet of Allah said: When a man calls his wife to satisfy his desire, let her come to him though she is occupied at the oven."[38]
(The above Hadith is agreed upon, that is, no scholar doubts its authenticity.)
"The messenger of Allah said: Whenever a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and then he passes the night in an angry mood, the angels curse her till she gets up at dawn."[39]
The understanding that man's sexual needs are more important than the woman's was not only believed by the early Muslims, but is also believed by modern-day Muslims. A contemporary scholar wrote:
"Allah the most high has fashioned the woman's psychological and physiological make up in such a way that man's pleasures are satisfied in her more than her pleasures satisfied in him. Not only that but she also finds her happiness in feeling so."[40]
38. Mishkat al-Masabih, English translation, Book I, Section 'Duties of husband and wife', Hadith No. 61.
39. Ibid., Hadith No. 54 (agreed upon). See also Bukhari, Arabic-English translation, vol. VII, Hadith no. 121.
40. Dr. Mohammad Sa'id Ramadan al-Buti, Ela kul Fataten Tu'min be-Allah, Mu'asasat ar_Risalah, Beirut, 1987, Eighth edition, p. 55.