Saturday, June 30, Meeting at Daly Plaza in Chicago 11 AM. Stop the Attacks on Children March

[theHawk]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

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Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

OK, throw them all in detention camps together. Then the next thing you will do is howl about “Japanese style internment camps”. Blah blah blah....

thanks SO MUCH--------there are actual JERKS out there who have DECIDED that "families" either real and CLAIMED----MUST be kept intact even before anyone knows WHO IS WHO. The "HOW" part of the game does not enter their
puny minds. Like "HOW?" build luxury hotels with large suites to accommodate whole families for------THE DURATION?. ------THROW all these unknowns TOGETHER? I am a mother----I would rather have my kid in
a child shelter------with FENCED areas, nice cafeteria line food, and people to
GUARD THE PLACE from the rest of the RABBLE that has been detained.
My public health moiety worries about EPIDEMICS. We get refugees from cholera endemic lands

The globalist pigs are now pushing for these illegals to be treated like Muslim “refugees”. I’m back in the states listening to crap like NPR and of course they are trying to spin it as though these people qualify for asylum. The left have their marching orders from the Soros globalists and the manufactured crisis is being pushed. Just like the EU was forced to take Muslim refugees, they will try to force the US to take all these Latino “migrants” as asylum seeking refugees.

 

[irosie91]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

The rally's are all over the nation today. Lots of people and sign's.

how may will die of heat stroke? how many non participants will die
because of the blocking of ambulances, fire trucks and police cars?

 

[Aba Incieni]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

 

[Tax Man]

Again, I ask the libs on this board, where were you guys when the Obama was taking fathers away from their children and flying them sometimes thousands of miles away using the Alien Transfer Act ?

Crickets.

https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...s-separated-children-from-their-families-too/


"Montes was put on a plane, flown halfway across the country and bused to the California-Mexico border. At 2 a.m. Tuesday, U.S. border authorities took off his handcuffs and escorted him to a gate The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. leading to the desert city of Mexicali. Montes was back in Mexico, but about 1,200 miles away from where he started."

From your source: The Trump administration has an intentional and explicit policy of separating migrant children from their families if caught crossing the U.S.-Mexico border without permission. Long before that, however, the administration of Barack Obama ramped up a program with a sometimes similar effect.

 

[Papageorgio]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

Since it isn’t being done anymore, what is the point of the rally?

 

[irosie91]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

 

[beagle9]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

Since it isn’t being done anymore, what is the point of the rally?

Political.

 

[Aba Incieni]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

 

[irosie91]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

 

[toobfreak]

I'll be there.

With a little luck you'll be among those who get arrested and maybe we'll have a few days of peace.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Again, I ask the libs on this board, where were you guys when the Obama was taking fathers away from their children and flying them sometimes thousands of miles away using the Alien Transfer Act ?

Crickets.

https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...s-separated-children-from-their-families-too/


"Montes was put on a plane, flown halfway across the country and bused to the California-Mexico border. At 2 a.m. Tuesday, U.S. border authorities took off his handcuffs and escorted him to a gate leading to the desert city of Mexicali. Montes was back in Mexico, but about 1,200 miles away from where he started."

I missed the part where breastfeeding babies were ripped from their mother's arms.

Could you quote it?

Remember when you celebrated Obama being tough on Illegals?

 

[Aba Incieni]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

They pay smugglers to take them "safely," which means getting them to Tio Tomás in LA. Sure, she will be gang raped at will along the way and forced to urinate and defecate in front of strange men, but as long as she gets to LA and wires the money, all is golden.

It's all about money.

 

[Oldstyle]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

Funny how none of you "progressives" gave a shit about protecting those children when they were exposed to danger the entire time they were making their way up from Central America to our border! It's only NOW that you think they are in "dire peril" because they're separated from their parents but are being kept in safe locations, fed three squares a day, given medical attention and free education!

To be blunt, R-Derp...you're the WORST kind of hypocrite!

 

[irosie91]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

They pay smugglers to take them "safely," which means getting them to Tio Tomás in LA. Sure, she will be gang raped at will along the way and forced to urinate and defecate in front of strange men, but as long as she gets to LA and wires the money, all is golden.

It's all about money.

---Poverty, money and few choices.

 

[OldLady]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

I don't understand how democrats think think that the sure fire way to beat the laws of the US is to sneak across the border with a kid. Whether it's your kid or not. "Wait they have a kid". "Let's open up the border". Brilliant. Oh screw the law, open the border, just what this country needs, undocumented millions of low skilled minions.

Half of one percent of illegals are using that ploy. That statistic is from the folks who catch them. Sorry, find another lie to smear these people with.

You do gooders aren't for war, so you think that the world's population running from wars, corruption, and economic hardships should just come here to overload our systems, and create economic hardships for our citizens, and corrupt our government like the many they were alledgedly running from.

My thoughts are that if hundreds of thousands are fleeing a corrupt government, and are coming here, then we are not to investigate through these witnesses about what is going on, and then take action against the government that is creating the crisis ? Or is this crisis actually being created from within this nation for political purposes ?? If so then the culprits need to be outed, and then prosecuted.

This is to several of the posters here who are happy putting words in my mouth; it makes it easier to spout talking points that way.
I repeat, I do not support illegals coming here. They should be dealt with respectfully and sent home. Respectfully means recognizing that they are human beings who love the children they are bringing with them (99.5% are legitimate parents and children) and that they are treated according to our laws, which include a fair hearing.
If this Zero Tolerance policy had been thought out and the obvious ramifications of the decision had been planned for, I would not have a problem with it. "Asylum" is a magic word used by those who get caught and those who haven't heard, yet, about how things are going at the border these days. What has happened so far with Trump's new idea is that he has rolled back half of it and the other half (the Zero Tolerance) is falling to pieces, too, because of existing laws and nonexistant resources--such as housing and necessary judges--to handle the enormous increase.
Obviously, any policy that deliberately separates children from their parents as a "deterrent" should never have been used to begin with. It didn't have to be, if it had been planned correctly.

 

[beagle9]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

We have poor kids with few choices in many areas of this country also, so should they journey to California from Virginia say, and with no guidence to then be met by Harvey Winsteins and the sort or worse to just end up pawns in a game of usery that in many cases destroys them or even kills them ??

What makes you think that this nation is this great place for children to flee to from other nation's with all the exploitation that goes on here ??

Are we to take and create these islands of safety for these people here at the taxpayers expense ??? What about us getting our own house in order before telling the whole world that it is open for the whole world neighborhood to come and live with us in ??

Of course everyone runs their house differently, so in some people's minds their American hippy convent's are open to everyone regardless of the disasters that loom as a result of such thinking.

 

[Aba Incieni]

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

They pay smugglers to take them "safely," which means getting them to Tio Tomás in LA. Sure, she will be gang raped at will along the way and forced to urinate and defecate in front of strange men, but as long as she gets to LA and wires the money, all is golden.

It's all about money.

---Poverty, money and few choices.

They could break into your house and steal everything, including your job. Because of poverty, money, and few choices. Their drugs can ruin your family's life because of poverty, money, and few choices. They can rape your daughter as part of their gang introduction because of poverty, money, and few choices.

 

[irosie91]

You also don't live in a central American country where conditions are horrendous. You have to think, the conditions have to be extremely bad in their country if they are willing to take a risky trip across the border.

I live in a Central American country. You mistake the reason mothers leave children or send their own children on such a perilous journey.

It's for money. The reason they have children is to put them to work for them. They send them to America so they will wire money home to mommy.

If they were truly running for their lives, south would be a much easier trip.

I am a health care worker--------I live in a town that employs LOTS of people from
south America--------for all the kinds of jobs that make up a hospital. -----lots of people who bring LOTS OF KIDS (ps----no one has children so the kids can work for them-----SHEEEEESH-----you is damned cynical)

They don't put them to work because they have accomplished their goal and are in the US.

But lol...they don't send them to school here, they send them to work. Sit on the sidewalk and sell mangoes and pineapples, or push a cart around selling oranges, or picking almonds, or anything to earn some food for the family that day.

I am from here and know the culture. Did you read something on the internet?

I have both read and lived------overthere ---kids selling mangoes-----you are
alluding to poor people with few choices. "SEND THEM"? -------no one actually
SENDS them-----it is their reality

We have poor kids with few choices in many areas of this country also, so should they journey to California from Virginia say, and with no guidence to then be met by Harvey Winsteins and the sort or worse to just end up pawns in a game of usery that in many cases destroys them or even kills them ??

What makes you think that this nation is this great place for children to flee to from other nation's with all the exploitation that goes on here ??

Are we to take and create these islands of safety for these people here at the taxpayers expense ??? What about us getting our own house in order before telling the whole world that it is open for the whole neighborhood to come and live in with us in ??

Of course everyone runs their house differently, so in some people's minds their American hippy convent's are open to everyone regardless of the disasters that loom as a result of such thinking.

OK ---sadly true. ----TRAGIC------but it is what it is. ----I do not OPPOSE
Trump's machinations--------I refuse to leave IGNORE the very sad realities
with CYNICISM

 

[Oldstyle]

Families Belong Together – Chicago March | IATSE Local 769 Chicago

What some parents say:

We have two sons. Sebastian is 3, Francisco just 5 months old. I cannot imagine the emotional trauma my boys would experience if they were to be separated from Vanessa and me. But that’s what's happening at our border—forced family separations, denial of due process, imprisonment of kids and parents. To be silent while this takes place in our country is to be an accomplice.

=================
Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way? I don't get how Republicans think this is not only fine and OK, but I suspect some think it's quite humorous. Republicans own this attack on babies and toddlers.

Looks like Trump has been doing this much earlier. We have reports the number of children separated is double. Yes, double. Over four thousand.

I'll be there. Trying to figure out what to put on my sign. I am a veteran. When I served, we wanted to protect children and were against Russia. Now, Republicans protect Russia and attack children.

I don't understand how democrats think think that the sure fire way to beat the laws of the US is to sneak across the border with a kid. Whether it's your kid or not. "Wait they have a kid". "Let's open up the border". Brilliant. Oh screw the law, open the border, just what this country needs, undocumented millions of low skilled minions.

Half of one percent of illegals are using that ploy. That statistic is from the folks who catch them. Sorry, find another lie to smear these people with.

You do gooders aren't for war, so you think that the world's population running from wars, corruption, and economic hardships should just come here to overload our systems, and create economic hardships for our citizens, and corrupt our government like the many they were alledgedly running from.

My thoughts are that if hundreds of thousands are fleeing a corrupt government, and are coming here, then we are not to investigate through these witnesses about what is going on, and then take action against the government that is creating the crisis ? Or is this crisis actually being created from within this nation for political purposes ?? If so then the culprits need to be outed, and then prosecuted.

This is to several of the posters here who are happy putting words in my mouth; it makes it easier to spout talking points that way.
I repeat, I do not support illegals coming here. They should be dealt with respectfully and sent home. Respectfully means recognizing that they are human beings who love the children they are bringing with them (99.5% are legitimate parents and children) and that they are treated according to our laws, which include a fair hearing.
If this Zero Tolerance policy had been thought out and the obvious ramifications of the decision had been planned for, I would not have a problem with it. "Asylum" is a magic word used by those who get caught and those who haven't heard, yet, about how things are going at the border these days. What has happened so far with Trump's new idea is that he has rolled back half of it and the other half (the Zero Tolerance) is falling to pieces, too, because of existing laws and nonexistant resources--such as housing and necessary judges--to handle the enormous increase.
Obviously, any policy that deliberately separates children from their parents as a "deterrent" should never have been used to begin with. It didn't have to be, if it had been planned correctly.

If we had passed immigration reform back in Barack Obama's first term as he promised would be one of his first achievements...or in his second term after he again promised to make it a priority...we wouldn't be having the problems we're having now! It was Obama's failure to address this problem...just as Bush before him failed to address the same problem that has led us to where we are now. Give Trump credit for at least having the spine to take on one of the most difficult problems that we as a nation face instead of running away from it like others have done!

 

[Meathead]

Could you imagine being separated by your kids in such a way?

Not sure what you are saying. You need to clean up the grammar.

This is actually funny.