Ryan Plan Vs. ObamaCare?

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    One of the most important topics in the country is healthcare. To be honest, I am not informed about both plans, and would love to have somebody inform me about the difference between the two.

    What I do know, though:

    Ryan Plan:

    Voucher Plan (Go out and buy your own insurance?)
    Won't touch anybody 55 and over

    ObamaCare:

    Insurance for all!

    If I could get a Conservatives opinion, and a Liberals, that would really help me make a decision, or make me more informed about the issue.
     
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    I want everything free, to be paid for by everyone else!
     
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    Ryan's plan for Medicare is to just cut seniors a one time check and then they are on their own Obama Care is trying to get everyone covered by medical insurance through insurance mandates.
     
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    So what is the voucher? Can you explain to me how that works?

    And I'm pretty sure he doesn't touch anyone over 55.
     
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    Everyone?

    Or everyone except those he excluded with waivers?
     
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    People oppose Obamacare and the GOP plan, check the polls.


    But like everything else in this country, voters essentially feel they have to choose between the less smelly of 2 shit piles.
     
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    Everyone. Learn what the waivers do.
     
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    Ryan's voucher is each senior get 8,000 per person or 16,000 per couple. to pay for yearly coverage for an insurance plan. You can choose a private plan or any of the many Medicare insurance plans. All of the Medicare insurance plans are way under 16,000 per year so it will cover the yearly premium costs.
    additional assistance is given for lower income people.
    There is no one 55 years of age and up who will be affected by the changes.
    This plan saves about 300 billion a year.
     
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    yeah....like that will happen under Obamacare....

    starting in 2014 if you don't buy insurance you will be fined $700

    if you don't pay the fine you will be imprisoned....

    hey!....maybe that's BO's plan to have "everything free, paid for by everyone else"....prison care....:lol:
     
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    "Ryan's voucher is each senior get 8,000 per person or 16,000 per couple." Well you got that right but you left out the most important caveat and that is the fact that the voucher's annual increases to pay for the increased private insurance premium raises will be based on total inflation using the CPI as the cornerstone. The inflation rate for health care has historically, has increased at a greater rate than the CPI.
    This is a huge sticking point that Raul Ryan never addresses and neither do the posters who support Ryan's Medicare plan. And I'm not wondering why.
    The below graph shows the increase rate of the cost of health care versus the CPI. (Click on graph to enlarge).
     
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