Rude Bicyclists!

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    There's a real nice walking trail near my home in San Jose, called the Los Gatos Creek Trail. It covers several miles of undeveloped landspace owned and managed by our county and the our county's water district. The trail is for bicyclists, joggers, walkers, dog walkers(leashed dogs), and winds along creek and percolation pond areas. It's a wonderful place to walk and just let your mind get off the stresses of life, while enjoying some local wildlife, such as geese, ducks, egrets, Herons, fishing, squirrels, and lots of wild trees and bushes.

    Anyway, the are specific rules that bicyclists must not exceed 15 miles per hour on the asphault paved trail. The trail has a center-line that basically divides the trial for people going in both directions. Everyone stays on the right unless passing slower folks.

    My nice relaxing walks, or my more agressive cardio walks are constantly punctuated by rude bicyclists that use the trail as a Lance Armstrong proving ground. These cyclists usually are garbed in skin tight racing suits, that looking like decaled Nascar racers. They all wear bullet shaped helmets, and have very dark streamlined sunglasses. These folks will come from behind those that are walking and pass them at speeds nearing residential street, automobile speeds. In most cases, you don't hear them coming until they pass you as your walking, and they barely miss slamming their handle bars or jagged metal petals into you. They never ring a bell, or say, "coming on your left!", or any other polite gesture. I've practically felt my heart jump as I've had these folks pass me unexpectedly. They all look like your typical Yuppie or Gen X up and comer. Some will have a brief case hanging on their bike, and most likely use this trail as a means to commute to work.

    Anyway, I've been a biker myself in the past, and I always applied courtesy when riding on trails where folks hike on foot. I talked to a ranger one day, and he said that these bikers were a problem.

    I hope I'm not being nit-picky, but some how I thought that the rudeness of the road that is so apparent on the freeways of the S.F. bay area where I live, wouldn't be able to invade my walking/nature trail. These folks, in the name of excercise or wanting to be Lance Armstrong wannabees..........are very rude folks. It seems that rudeness is just rampant in society. It's reflected in so many more things too.

    There isn't a day, that I don't see atleast one red-light runner. When I cross a street and use a pedestrian crossing, the California DMV says that I have the right-of-way in that cross-walk(of course I must use safety and common sense, and not impede traffic if possible), but many drivers will make turns right across the pedestrian crossing in front of me as I'm crossing. Drivers are supposed to yield and wait until a pedestrian crosses, but most don't even hesitate to ignore that law.

    People just seem to be so self-absorbed in there own thing, and fail to look out for others. We have become such a selfish generation............it's very sad indeed.

    Common courtesy on the road while driving is nearly extinct. Letting people in who have their turn signal on and want to make a lane change is non-existent.

    Tail-gating is absolutely Pandemic on San Francisco Bay Area freeways! 3 ton SUV/pick-up drivers tailgate people driving 2,500 lb. cars with impunity. People just don't think about anyone else but themselves.

    I guess I could vent on and on.............I'm just tired of the old "me, myself, and I" attitude becoming so dominate in society. It's ugly, it's evil, it's practically anarchic. It rejects authority.........it's just bad. :bang3:
     
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    ...and unfortunately, it's how we get things done. :)

    Most people that are being tailgated are doing 50 in the far left lane of traffic.. That's asking for trouble..

    If you're crossing the street and I'm turning, yeah, I'll probably turn in front of you if you're less than half way across the street.. I'm driving to get there faster than walking..
     
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    I agree eightball, I've had those bicyclists come up behind me way too quickly and stealthily. Do they ever consider that someone walking might twist their foot and stumble onto their path? Guess what? They would be in a heap of trouble from a liability angle.

    Same thing with driving, you will get to your destination quickly enough, without scaring a pedestrian in a crosswalk or tailgating. I drive quite fast, but not where there are people crossing the road and I like to have plenty of stopping room. Funny thing, I've never rear-ended anyone with my vehicle. :)

    Ever notice how people will smile at you if you just practice the courtesy your mother taught you?
     
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    Pretty much nobody that tailgates people for whatever reason has rearended anyone. They practice defensive driving. :) The people that do rear end others are the people that are a menace to the road *anyway*. They jet out in front of traffic moving faster than them, they think they're the only people on the road, they're freakin yapping on cell phones instead of paying attention to what the hell they're doing, etc.

    Most often guilty? Women.
     
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    That's not what we learned at State Farm.
     
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    How many men do you see yapping on a cell phone, eating an ice cream cone, signing paperwork, putting on makeup, brushing their hair...etc?

    Men may be asshole drivers, but a large majority of women are dangerous.. They're also the ones doing 50 in the left lane of the freeway..
     
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    Cell phones? More men than women. I've never seen anyone driving and eating ice cream, signing anything-how can you tell it's paperwork? Now, if I saw a guy putting on makeup, I'd look. Actually, this whole debate seems pretty lame. LOL

    Rear end collisions are always caused by being too close to the car in front of you, by definition. Most often the driver is a young male or elderly. Men are behind those groups.
     
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    If you get rearended by someone elderly, you're *really* screwing up. They drive at 20, no matter where they're at..

    Paperwork, birthday card, same difference.. How can I tell? I shouldn't have to move to the middle lane from the left lane to pass. But you can bet that while I am moving, I'll be glancing over at you to let you know you're an idiot.

    The same has held true for large cities, and small alike.. The only thing that changes is the posted speed limit.

    If we want common courtesy in dealing with society, we need to extend some ourselves in our every day lives, and that involves following the basic rules of common sense while on the road.
     
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    I'm sorry, honey, but thats a big bucket of B.S.!

    I belonged to the Porsche Club of America for several years, and did a lot of Auto-Crossing..........that's racing your car through a windy course for time. I learned an awful lot about how to handle a car that spins, hard braking, etc..........but...tail-gaters are dangerous drivers. They live under the illusion that even though they're one car-length or less behind a vehicle and traveling at 70+ mph. they are in complete control of their vehicle.

    Another thing; this attitude that anyone that slows us down in the far left lane is a hazard.........is a bad driving attitude and lacks common sense and common sensitivity!

    California DMV Law emphasizes "courtesy".........If you do not excercise courtesy, you can be cited.........and rightly so! If a driver doesn't move "right" for a faster vehicle in the left-most lane.........then the faster vehicle usually has the option to pass on the right, but at a safe over-take speed. The problem I've seen is that traffic in the left-most lane is basically filled to the max........yet some "Yo-Yo" hot shot will tail-gate the person in front of them even though it wouldn't give the tail-gater any benefit if the slower car moved over. It's just discourteous driving.

    For those of you that tail-gate at interstate/freeway/pike speeds............ever wonder what you'd do if that person in front of you had to do a panic stop, and you didn't anticipate it happening? The front of your vehicle would be in their trunk or back seat, and you just might end up with the death of some human's on your conscience for the rest of your earthly life. One car length for every 10 mph. was the rule-of-thumb.........I know that when traffic is tight during big commutes that rule is hard to maintain or traffic would be stretched out for 100's of miles, but common sense still needs to prevail.

    Tail-gating is a selfish act......it endangers the vehicle's drivers and occupants immediately in front of you.

    Patience is a dieing thing..........everyone is in a hurry to get...............where?..........

    I really think that the way a person drives.........accurately reveals, one's personality, and attitude towards others and expecially about themselves.
     
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    Umm, the speed at which someone is going, doesn't have much to do with being rearended, rather their lack of attention or necessary time in which to stop. Most with damage are caused by lack of ability to stop in time. The ones at a basic idle speed, tend not to cause damage, because modern cars have flexible bumpers.

    Personally, I drive when I drive. I don't do any of the things you seem to see so commonly. I've noticed the cell phones, which I don't have. I think they should be illegal to use while driving, but haven't seen any such laws, so I guess we'll keep seeing them.
     

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