Rubio Bill Lets ANY Employer Deny Birth Control Coverage

[Intense]

not paying for birth control =/= *interfering* with reproductive choices of employes

are you this stupid in real life?

Sure it is. Contraceptives are routinely provided by health care plans. For an employer to try to remove that coverage, which actually costs less than the cost of pregnancy (including maternity leave), or to try to get the legal right to do so, is, in fact, interference in the relationship between the employee and the insurance company.

The employer does not "remove" coverage. The employer seeks out the type of coverage it finds useful to the employees yet is affordable to the company.
If an employer finds that the best deal is coverage without a birth control rider, it is THEIR right to do so.

This is also a Moral and Ethical Issue. It's not just about the money.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What's the sensible alternative to using birth control?

abstain from having sex or, and i realize this is heartless of me to suggest, continue to have sex and buy your own condoms, diaphragm or pills with your own money.

So man and wife should only have sex for reproductive purposes.

btw, for the thousandths time, these are employee compensations, they are being paid for with WORK.

No...They can do what they wish. It is their responsibility to take care of birth control issues.
The coverage is compensation only if it exists in the policy purchased by the employer.
It is not an entitlement. It is not guaranteed.
What is so difficult to understand?

 

[Intense]

abstain from having sex or, and i realize this is heartless of me to suggest, continue to have sex and buy your own condoms, diaphragm or pills with your own money.

So man and wife should only have sex for reproductive purposes.

btw, for the thousandths time, these are employee compensations, they are being paid for with WORK.

No...They can do what they wish. It is their responsibility to take care of birth control issues.
The coverage is compensation only if it exists in the policy purchased by the employer.
It is not an entitlement. It is not guaranteed.
What is so difficult to understand?

They cannot grasp the concept that everything has a cost.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What's the sensible alternative to using birth control?

Buying your own birth control is the logical alternative to forcing your employer to pay for it.

Your employer is offering prescription drug benefits in exchange for your WORK. How hard is that for you to understand?

Obviously, quite hard. Too bad your healthcare plan doesn't include smart pills.

Keep making the same argument looking for a different result. Brilliant.
Genius, birth control is not medication.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So man and wife should only have sex for reproductive purposes.

btw, for the thousandths time, these are employee compensations, they are being paid for with WORK.

try not to be painfully stupid, ace.

i never said sex should only be for reproductive purposes only.

there is no reason why an employer should have to pay for his employees birth control any more than s/he should have to pay for plastic surgery.

You said

abstain from having sex

I guess I misinterpreted that. Apparently you meant married couples should never have sex.

Correct. If couples do not abstain and continue to have unprotected relations, they take the risk of pregnancy. They are free to choose any type of birth control they wish....As long as they pay for it themselves.

 

[Norman]

Buying your own birth control is the logical alternative to forcing your employer to pay for it.

Your employer is offering prescription drug benefits in exchange for your WORK. How hard is that for you to understand?

Obviously, quite hard. Too bad your healthcare plan doesn't include smart pills.

Keep making the same argument looking for a different result. Brilliant.
Genius, birth control is not medication.

Doesn't matter.

Let's have "insurance" for food, clothing, aspirin and band aids next.

It makes a lot of sense doesn't it?


WHY would you want an insurance for something that you are
A) Planning to do.
B) Doing everyday.
C) Is not a necessity
D) Can easily be paid out of the pocket.
F) Costs less than one of the insurance payments itself.

/speechless.

Ah but the problem was that there isn't enough unproductive paper fiddler jobs in USA as the trade deficits prove. If only more people would process E-pill applications!

And no one will care what birth control costs now... Say hello to exploding costs. Poor unemployed people don't really deserve to have sex... How liberal.

 

[thereisnospoon]

You know people,

we could go to single payer healthcare and make this issue disappear altogether.

Oh great....The inept federal government with it's layers of bureaucracy trying to provide health insurance.
Monkey trying to fuck a football.

 

[Intense]

Your employer is offering prescription drug benefits in exchange for your WORK. How hard is that for you to understand?

Obviously, quite hard. Too bad your healthcare plan doesn't include smart pills.

Keep making the same argument looking for a different result. Brilliant.
Genius, birth control is not medication.

Doesn't matter.

Let's have "insurance" for food, clothing, aspirin and band aids next.

It makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

Only if you want to guarantee Inflation.

 

[pete]

Think about the concept of "birth control coverage" for a minute. We aren't talking about injuries or accidents resulting in loss of work time. We are talking about birth control pills and other stuf. Doesn't any freaking intelligent American realize that women can chose not to have sex or (God forbid) buy their own freaking birth control drugs without forcing the American taxpayer to foot the bill?

Close your legs !
Its a complete circle as I see it no matter who pays for it we do as anyone that is going to have to foot the bill is going to pass the cost on and why cant they just go to taxpayer funded planned parent hood anyway?

 

[Intense]

Think about the concept of "birth control coverage" for a minute. We aren't talking about injuries or accidents resulting in loss of work time. We are talking about birth control pills and other stuf. Doesn't any freaking intelligent American realize that women can chose not to have sex or (God forbid) buy their own freaking birth control drugs without forcing the American taxpayer to foot the bill?

Close your legs !
Its a complete circle as I see it no matter who pays for it we do as anyone that is going to have to foot the bill is going to pass the cost on and why cant they just go to taxpayer funded planned parent hood anyway?

It's about who gets the leash and who gets the collar.

 

[Norman]

Think about the concept of "birth control coverage" for a minute. We aren't talking about injuries or accidents resulting in loss of work time. We are talking about birth control pills and other stuf. Doesn't any freaking intelligent American realize that women can chose not to have sex or (God forbid) buy their own freaking birth control drugs without forcing the American taxpayer to foot the bill?

Viagra is covered in most health insurance...let's cut that too (no pun intended)

Our health insurance does no cover "sexual enhancements" of any kind.
Pay for your own 4 hour woody.

But since everyone is forced to pay now. Why should it not?

In fact viagra insurance would at least be legitimate insurance. No one plans to become impotent, not everyone suffers from it, and it can be more expensive to treat than the insurance form.

Still not getting how it is fair that those that do not have sex pay for those who do. What about impotent or sterilized people?