Roosevelt, Stalin and The Elusive "Second Front"

[JakeStarkey]

PC is absolutely a conspiracy theorist, not an academic of any sort.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that this thread is about FDR following every order that Joseph Stalin gave.



" In retrospect, the ascendancy of the Communists in the Roosevelt administration during the war seems incredible. Aided by the direct intervention of the White House, they sabotaged the security system of the War and Navy Departments, received commissions in the army and navy, and were admitted to the most secret activities of the armed forces.

The War Department's Information and Education Division sent out so-called "Orientation Fact Sheets," for use in the indoctrination of all army personnel, which denounced critics of the Soviet Union as "Fascists" and glorified the Stalin tyranny as a "peace-loving democracy" with a constitution superior in some respects to that of the United States.
Manly, 'The Twenty Year Revolution,' p.106-109




I wonder how many know that Roosevelt demanded a communist be his vice president (Henry Wallace) after John Nance Garner....

 

[JakeStarkey]

FDR save the county by pulling it out of the great depression and defeating Nazi Germany. Probably the best president since Washington, maybe even better.

He had no love of Hitler and Stalin.

I know that you are an open-minded truth-seeker, as I am....and after you read this entire thread and check the links and sources that I will and have provided, you will arrive at the very same conclusion about Franklin Delano Roosevelt that I have.

You are a close minded conspiracy theorist, and Ravi will come to no such conclusion.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Please articulate a point so that I can eviscerate it.

Your shoe is untied,...

I can see that the strain of actually making a coherent point is stultifying for you....so let me help.

I assume that you were trying to find a way to mitigate the harm that Harry Dexter White and all the other Soviet spies that Franklin Roosevelt invited into his administration, accomplished.

In that, you'd be sadly mistaken.


Not only was White a spy, but he used his position to block the Chinese nationalists when he could and handed China to the communists.

Harry Truman, at least until he learned better, supported Stalin, White, and the communists ensconced in the Roosevelt administration.


I dare you to challenge the veracity of this post.
In fact, I double dog dare you.

Well that's a nice way of saying that when you side loses you have to make some excuses for the General......
It was proven after Whites death in 1948 that he was a spy, buy not a spy which subverted any policies...

Absolutely wrong.

I notice you didn't take me up on the challenge...."Well that's a nice way of saying" that you know that White did the damage that I just stated: he handed China to Mao, and that resulted in the Korean War...

It is important to connect the treachery with the impact of that treachery: the theft of the nuclear technology with 36,940 Americans killed, 91,134 wounded, and 8,176 still missing, and this does not include at least two million civilian lives claimed on both sides.
Bruce Cumings, "The Korean War: A History.'

Included were 1.3 million South Korean casualties, including 400,000 dead. North Korea, 2 million casualties, and 900,000 Chinese soldiers killed.

The blame goes to FDR, Harry White and other spies, as well as Stalin.

You are a JBS stooge, and all of your silliness above has been disproven on this Board many times.

So, for intelligent and patriotic Americans, PoliticalChic does not get "just once more."

Get lost, fool.

You have been unable to deny any of the documented, linked, sourced, facts that I have provided.

You remain a lying imbecile....and many know it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A few years after WW II many nations from E. Germany to N. Korea, 100s of millions of people, were subject to mass-murdering Communist dictators. FDR deserves a lot of the blame.

For example FDR empowered this man: Harry Dexter White

Quote:

• White was the real author of the Morgenthau plan to "turn Germany into a potato field," which when leaked, united non-Nazis with Nazis, stiffened resistance, and prolonged the war.

• White used his position in the Treasury Department to develop a hostile U.S. policy toward Japan. The reason was to distract Japan from their plans to attack the Soviet Union and draw the U.S. into the war as an ally with the Soviet Union. White was the author of an extreme ultimatum that Japan could not comply with in the days just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

• White delayed financial support mandated by law to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist Chinese government causing the triumph of Mao Tse-Tung's Communist Chinese government.

• White was instrumental in handing over the Allied Military mark printing plates to the Soviets. This caused a $250,000,000 deficit in the occupational government budget paid out by the U.S. Treasury. This in effect amounted to the US taxpayer paying the salaries of Soviet occupation troops at a time when US/Soviet relations were deteriorating precisely because of the presence and behavior of Soviet occupation forces in Eastern Europe.

Try the above in actual academic program and your non-academic ass will be thrown into the corner.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your shoe is untied,...

I can see that the strain of actually making a coherent point is stultifying for you....so let me help.

I assume that you were trying to find a way to mitigate the harm that Harry Dexter White and all the other Soviet spies that Franklin Roosevelt invited into his administration, accomplished.

In that, you'd be sadly mistaken.


Not only was White a spy, but he used his position to block the Chinese nationalists when he could and handed China to the communists.

Harry Truman, at least until he learned better, supported Stalin, White, and the communists ensconced in the Roosevelt administration.


I dare you to challenge the veracity of this post.
In fact, I double dog dare you.

Well that's a nice way of saying that when you side loses you have to make some excuses for the General......
It was proven after Whites death in 1948 that he was a spy, buy not a spy which subverted any policies...

Absolutely wrong.

I notice you didn't take me up on the challenge...."Well that's a nice way of saying" that you know that White did the damage that I just stated: he handed China to Mao, and that resulted in the Korean War...

It is important to connect the treachery with the impact of that treachery: the theft of the nuclear technology with 36,940 Americans killed, 91,134 wounded, and 8,176 still missing, and this does not include at least two million civilian lives claimed on both sides.
Bruce Cumings, "The Korean War: A History.'

Included were 1.3 million South Korean casualties, including 400,000 dead. North Korea, 2 million casualties, and 900,000 Chinese soldiers killed.

The blame goes to FDR, Harry White and other spies, as well as Stalin.

You are a JBS stooge, and all of your silliness above has been disproven on this Board many times.

So, for intelligent and patriotic Americans, PoliticalChic does not get "just once more."

Get lost, fool.

You have been unable to deny any of the documented, linked, sourced, facts that I have provided.

You remain a lying imbecile....and many know it.

You don't get "just once more" after the ass kickings through the years you have taken on this topic.

You are front for the JBS groups, and you do a poor job.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No objective scholar rests a case on Manly.

 

[Camp]

How about if you attempt to refrain from deflecting and answer the question? Explain your source by explaining Chesly Manly, Col. McCormick and the American Party.

How about you show any error in the statement.

If you cannot, admit that your sole mission is to shield Roosevelt from the contumely he so correctly deserves.

Easy. "Fascism did not aquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union," Chesly Manly "The 20 Year Revolution" P. 48. Your quote used in your OP.

There was an attempt at a coup by fascist in 1933. It was called the Business Plot and exposed by Maj. General Smedley Butler the most highly decorated Marine in history at the time of his death. He was awarded two Medals of Honor.
The Black Legion and Silver Legion were two fascist groups connected to the Klu Klux Klan of the 1930's, as was the American Bund.

Your quote by Manly is misleading. It suggest that Washington was not aware of the dangers or evilness of fascism. Clearly that was not the case.

So now answer the question that you keep deflecting from. Who should the readers believe, a highly decorated Marine Corps Major General and most highly decorated combat veteran of his time, or whatever this Chesly Manly pen name was? Hint, McCormick and the Chicago Tribune and the American Party.

 

[Moonglow]

3. Which brings us to the famed"Second Front."
The first front was created by the Nazi attack, "Operation Barbarossa," and the constant demands by Stalin that the Allies open another front to draw off the Germans from Russia.
The unspoken sentiment is that the Germans would defeat the Soviets, and that they desperately needed that 'Second Front.'

What proof of that 'fear' exists? Looking at the great tank battle of Kursk, or a study of Russia's 'three greatest generals, December, January, and February,' certainly don't support same.

No, the truth is that FDR's affections for Stalin and Soviet Communism found it useful to claim that without American support.....the end was near for Uncle Joe,




a. What does history tell us about similar attempts to conquer the Russian bear?

"Napoleon began his invasion 550 miles from Moscow and 420 miles from St. Petersburg. Hitler began his invasion from a similar distance." Why Russia Is Marching mdash and Eastern Europe Is Afraid - theTrumpet.com
How did that turn out for the attackers?



4. But didn't Stalin lose 20 million of his citizens??

Yes....but not to Hitler.

"World War II left over 27 million Soviet citizens dead....but only a fraction of them were killed by the Germans.Yet throughout the West. 'war crimes' is a phrase only attacked to the Nazis. When the Red Army marched, an NKVD army marched behind, with its own tanks, machine guns, firing forward....never allowing retreat.

More than a million Soviet citizens joined the Nazis. Ask yourself this: why was it that only the USSR, of all the Allies, had provided the enemy with thousands of recruits? Nearly one million Russian and other anti-Soviet men joined the enemy of their Soviet Army."
"The Secret Betrayal" by Nikolai Tolstoy, p. 19-20.




The Soviet Union, that means Stalin, killed more than twenty million men, women and children.....his own citizens!

Yet Roosevelt never wavered in his support for 'Uncle Joe"....and this began years before WWII.





5. So....what's all this about a dire need for a "Second Front"....and why did Stalin insist it had to be via the northwestern corner of the continent rather than the south, from Italy and the Adriatic?

And why forbid the allies to allow the surrender of Germany, which would have saved countless American lives?

More to the point....why did Roosevelt go along with this?
Starting to see the truth about Franklin Delano Roosevelt?

The surrender terms were agreed upon even before the US was at war...

You simply make stuff up, huh?

1. "The Morgenthau Plan, first proposed by United States Secretary of the TreasuryHenry Morgenthau, Jr. in a memorandum entitled Suggested Post-Surrender Program for Germany, advocated that the Allied occupation ofGermany following World War II include measures to eliminate Germany's ability to wage war by eliminating its armament industry, and the removal or destruction of other key industries basic to military strength. This included the removal or destruction of all industrial plants and equipment in the Ruhr area.

At the Second Quebec Conference on September 16, 1944, U.S.PresidentFranklin D. Rooseveltand Henry Morgenthau, Jr. persuaded the initially very reluctant BritishPrime MinisterWinston Churchill to agree to the plan,..."
Morgenthau Plan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


2. The plan came from Stalin.

Elizabeth Bentley, a former operative of the Soviet underground testified before the Senate subcommittee on August 14, 1951, naming some 80 Soviet spies. Her testimony was summarized in an FBI report, dated November 25, 1945.

Glimpse the methods and purpose of the Soviet operation:

Miss Bentley testified as follows about the Morgenthau plan for Germany:

Senator Eastland: "Did you know who drew that plan?"

Miss Bentlcy: "Due to Mr. [Harry Dexter] White's influence, to push the devastation of Germany, because that was what the Russians wanted."

Senator Ferguson: "That was what the Communists wanted?"

Miss Bentley: "Definitely Moscow wanted them completely razed because then they would be of no help to the allies."

Senator Eastland: "What you say is that it was a Communist plot to destroy Germany and weaken her to where she could not help us?"

Miss Bentley: "That is correct. She could no longer be a barrier to protect the western world."
Manly, 'The Twenty Year Revolution,' p.102-103

Germany was totally destroyed by war, you do know what that means, there was nothing to take away from the Germans...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Harry White's Creed, which PC hates

"I believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of the press, freedom of criticism, and freedom of movement. I believe in the goal of equality of opportunity, and the right of each individual to follow the calling of his or her own choice, and the right of every individual to have an opportunity to develop his or her capacity to the fullest. . . . I consider these principles sacred. I regard them as the basic fabric of our American way of life, and I believe in them as living realities, and not mere words on paper. This is my creed."

Let's remind all that Harry Dexter White was a Soviet spy, and that you are both a liar and an imbecile.

He was not, I am not, and you are running dog of the far right social con wacko brigades.

Lying imbecile....even drop-draws link claims he was a spy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems that any scholarly revelation about Franklin Roosevelt produces the sort of ire that one would expect in response to a slur about one's dear, departed- and saintly- mom!

An earlier thread resulted in this unwarranted attack:

"I've accused you of being dishonest on one and an unqualified sloppy researcher on the other. Still you deflect, and refuse to respond on those topics, instead wanting to start a discussion on the old stand-by FDR was a communist tool of Stalin fantasy." Roosevelt s Great Depression Page 30 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum




What can I say? I'm left no course of action but to reveal more facts about Franklin Roosevelt that his devotees would rather left hidden.
Perhaps a stiff dose of the truth will prove to be a sort of shock therapy for these ....disciples.



Let's begin:

From well before his election, the liar- it is well documented that he was a liar- was a totalitarian aficionado: a dictator who adored other dictators.


1. For proper context, it is important to remember that the economic policies of Hitler, Mussolini, and Franklin Roosevelt were...sympatico.
And, consdier that the policies and view of Hitler and Stalin where, for the most part, identical....right down to genocide and concentration camps as government policy. Karl Marx had been the first political thinker to support same.

a. . "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.




2. Hitler and Stalin were, essentially, clones. And, allies until 'Operation Barbarossa,...22 June 1941,... was the code name for Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union during World War II."
Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Where does Franklin Roosevelt come in? " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48


Perhaps a closer look at Franklin Delano Roosevelt's intentions are long overdue.

Sounds like you got your ass handed to you on one thread, and now need it handed to you on this thread.

Wiki can be a good source for quick fun facts, but it seems if you were serious about your research, you'd be using other sources.

Now, what's brought on all this fuss about FDR? I think the fuss is all about the wonderful documentary that came out a few months ago, reminding us all of how it takes a Democrat to come in and turn a financial collapse around, not unlike the 2007-08 collapse.

Let's see you find anything not true, you dope.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Please articulate a point so that I can eviscerate it.

Your shoe is untied,...

I can see that the strain of actually making a coherent point is stultifying for you....so let me help.

I assume that you were trying to find a way to mitigate the harm that Harry Dexter White and all the other Soviet spies that Franklin Roosevelt invited into his administration, accomplished.

In that, you'd be sadly mistaken.


Not only was White a spy, but he used his position to block the Chinese nationalists when he could and handed China to the communists.

Harry Truman, at least until he learned better, supported Stalin, White, and the communists ensconced in the Roosevelt administration.


I dare you to challenge the veracity of this post.
In fact, I double dog dare you.

Well that's a nice way of saying that when you side loses you have to make some excuses for the General......
It was proven after Whites death in 1948 that he was a spy, buy not a spy which subverted any policies...

Absolutely wrong.

I notice you didn't take me up on the challenge...."Well that's a nice way of saying" that you know that White did the damage that I just stated: he handed China to Mao, and that resulted in the Korean War...

It is important to connect the treachery with the impact of that treachery: the theft of the nuclear technology with 36,940 Americans killed, 91,134 wounded, and 8,176 still missing, and this does not include at least two million civilian lives claimed on both sides.
Bruce Cumings, "The Korean War: A History.'

Included were 1.3 million South Korean casualties, including 400,000 dead. North Korea, 2 million casualties, and 900,000 Chinese soldiers killed.

The blame goes to FDR, Harry White and other spies, as well as Stalin.

You are a JBS stooge, and all of your silliness above has been disproven on this Board many times.

So, for intelligent and patriotic Americans, PoliticalChic does not get "just once more."

Nothing that I've posted has been 'proven untrue'.....especially when I revealed you to be a lying imbecile.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Harry White's Creed, which PC hates

"I believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of the press, freedom of criticism, and freedom of movement. I believe in the goal of equality of opportunity, and the right of each individual to follow the calling of his or her own choice, and the right of every individual to have an opportunity to develop his or her capacity to the fullest. . . . I consider these principles sacred. I regard them as the basic fabric of our American way of life, and I believe in them as living realities, and not mere words on paper. This is my creed."

Let's remind all that Harry Dexter White was a Soviet spy, and that you are both a liar and an imbecile.

He was not, I am not, and you are running dog of the far right social con wacko brigades.

Lying imbecile....even drop-draws link claims he was a spy.

And other evidence says you are full of it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All of what you have posted here is untrue (oh, yeah, FDR was president) OK, almost all is untrue and so proven.

 

[Syriusly]

Seems that any scholarly revelation about Franklin Roosevelt produces the sort of ire that one would expect in response to a slur about one's dear, departed- and saintly- mom!

.

I have yet to see any threads that contained any scholarly revelation about FDR- just your wingnuttery.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Seems that any scholarly revelation about Franklin Roosevelt produces the sort of ire that one would expect in response to a slur about one's dear, departed- and saintly- mom!

An earlier thread resulted in this unwarranted attack:

"I've accused you of being dishonest on one and an unqualified sloppy researcher on the other. Still you deflect, and refuse to respond on those topics, instead wanting to start a discussion on the old stand-by FDR was a communist tool of Stalin fantasy." Roosevelt s Great Depression Page 30 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum




What can I say? I'm left no course of action but to reveal more facts about Franklin Roosevelt that his devotees would rather left hidden.
Perhaps a stiff dose of the truth will prove to be a sort of shock therapy for these ....disciples.



Let's begin:

From well before his election, the liar- it is well documented that he was a liar- was a totalitarian aficionado: a dictator who adored other dictators.


1. For proper context, it is important to remember that the economic policies of Hitler, Mussolini, and Franklin Roosevelt were...sympatico.
And, consdier that the policies and view of Hitler and Stalin where, for the most part, identical....right down to genocide and concentration camps as government policy. Karl Marx had been the first political thinker to support same.

a. . "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.




2. Hitler and Stalin were, essentially, clones. And, allies until 'Operation Barbarossa,...22 June 1941,... was the code name for Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union during World War II."
Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Where does Franklin Roosevelt come in? " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48


Perhaps a closer look at Franklin Delano Roosevelt's intentions are long overdue.

Sounds like you got your ass handed to you on one thread, and now need it handed to you on this thread.

Wiki can be a good source for quick fun facts, but it seems if you were serious about your research, you'd be using other sources.

Now, what's brought on all this fuss about FDR? I think the fuss is all about the wonderful documentary that came out a few months ago, reminding us all of how it takes a Democrat to come in and turn a financial collapse around, not unlike the 2007-08 collapse.

Let's see you find anything not true, you dope.

I think I've already made my point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How about if you attempt to refrain from deflecting and answer the question? Explain your source by explaining Chesly Manly, Col. McCormick and the American Party.

How about you show any error in the statement.

If you cannot, admit that your sole mission is to shield Roosevelt from the contumely he so correctly deserves.

Easy. "Fascism did not aquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union," Chesly Manly "The 20 Year Revolution" P. 48. Your quote used in your OP.

There was an attempt at a coup by fascist in 1933. It was called the Business Plot and exposed by Maj. General Smedley Butler the most highly decorated Marine in history at the time of his death. He was awarded two Medals of Honor.
The Black Legion and Silver Legion were two fascist groups connected to the Klu Klux Klan of the 1930's, as was the American Bund.

Your quote by Manly is misleading. It suggest that Washington was not aware of the dangers or evilness of fascism. Clearly that was not the case.

So now answer the question that you keep deflecting from. Who should the readers believe, a highly decorated Marine Corps Major General and most highly decorated combat veteran of his time, or whatever this Chesly Manly pen name was? Hint, McCormick and the Chicago Tribune and the American Party.

Watch me eviscerate you:

1. English and French commentators routinely depicted Roosevelt as akin to Mussolini. A more specific reason why, in 1933, the New Deal was often compared with Fascism was that with the help of a massive propaganda campaign, Italy had transitioned from a liberal free-market system to a state-run corporatist one. And corporatism was considered by elitists and intellectuals as the perfect response to the collapse of the liberal free-market economy, as was the national self-sufficiency of the Stalinist Soviet Union. The National Recovery Administration was comparable to Mussolini’s corporatism as both had state control without actual expropriation of private property.
   1. Mussolini wrote a book review of Roosevelt’s “Looking Forward,” in which he said “…[as] Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people.” Popolo d’Italia, July 7, 1933.
   2. In 1934, Mussolini wrote a review of “New Frontiers,” by FDR’s Sec’y of Agriculture, later Vice-President, Henry Wallace: “Wallace’s answer to what America wants is as follows: anything but a return tyo the free-market, i.e., anarchistic economy. Where is America headed? This book leaves no doubt that it is on the road to corporatism, the economic system of the current century.” Marco Sedda, Il politico, vol. 64, p. 263.
   3. “The similarities of the economics of the New Deal to the economics of Mussolini’s corporative state or Hitler’s totalitarian state are both close and obvious.” Norman Thomas, head of the American Socialist Party.
2. 1. The Fascism of the 30’s was hardly new on the scene. In fact, by the 1920’s, American intellectuals, disappointed in what they perceived as the failures of classical liberalism allowed themselves to think that Fascism was the path toward their ideals, and the same path allowed them to stumble into Stalinism some time later. The jewels of the new thinking, according to these elites, was comprehensive state control, planning and direction, as long as the goals remained “a conscious, intelligent ordering of society,” as Columbia professor and disciple of John Dewey, Herbert W. Schneider stated.
   
   a. American progressives, pragmatists, viewed Fascism’s emphasis on political repression as a regrettable but entirely understandable corollary.
   

Wow!

Did you just take a beating!

When ever you’re ready just yell “check please.”

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems that any scholarly revelation about Franklin Roosevelt produces the sort of ire that one would expect in response to a slur about one's dear, departed- and saintly- mom!

An earlier thread resulted in this unwarranted attack:

"I've accused you of being dishonest on one and an unqualified sloppy researcher on the other. Still you deflect, and refuse to respond on those topics, instead wanting to start a discussion on the old stand-by FDR was a communist tool of Stalin fantasy." Roosevelt s Great Depression Page 30 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum




What can I say? I'm left no course of action but to reveal more facts about Franklin Roosevelt that his devotees would rather left hidden.
Perhaps a stiff dose of the truth will prove to be a sort of shock therapy for these ....disciples.



Let's begin:

From well before his election, the liar- it is well documented that he was a liar- was a totalitarian aficionado: a dictator who adored other dictators.


1. For proper context, it is important to remember that the economic policies of Hitler, Mussolini, and Franklin Roosevelt were...sympatico.
And, consdier that the policies and view of Hitler and Stalin where, for the most part, identical....right down to genocide and concentration camps as government policy. Karl Marx had been the first political thinker to support same.

a. . "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.




2. Hitler and Stalin were, essentially, clones. And, allies until 'Operation Barbarossa,...22 June 1941,... was the code name for Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union during World War II."
Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. Where does Franklin Roosevelt come in? " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48


Perhaps a closer look at Franklin Delano Roosevelt's intentions are long overdue.

Sounds like you got your ass handed to you on one thread, and now need it handed to you on this thread.

Wiki can be a good source for quick fun facts, but it seems if you were serious about your research, you'd be using other sources.

Now, what's brought on all this fuss about FDR? I think the fuss is all about the wonderful documentary that came out a few months ago, reminding us all of how it takes a Democrat to come in and turn a financial collapse around, not unlike the 2007-08 collapse.

Let's see you find anything not true, you dope.

I think I've already made my point.

Not one example of anything I've posted that isn't the truth.

That identifies you as a moron who specializes in "I hate you" posts.

Now...get back into your sewer.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Wow! PC just wrote a lopsided, subjective, non-objective hit piece without any real rebuttal or modern scholarship. Clearly, her claim that she graduated from a premier university (CU) is a lie, based on the above.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow! PC just wrote a lopsided, subjective, non-objective hit piece without any real rebuttal or modern scholarship. Clearly, her claim that she graduated from a premier university (CU) is a lie, based on the above.

You still can't find even one example to back up your lies???