Romney's history making screw up.

[Dr.House]

History making? Lol

What fucking planet do you live on?.

Maybe he means it will be recorded in the HuffyPuffy archives....

Other than that, the unrest in the middle east (you know, the area that 0bama said would love us when he was elected) seems more important to Americans...

Go figure...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

History making? Lol

What fucking planet do you live on?.

It's never been done.

This was a first.

Its not the first time Romney has lied about his own actions.

Or, have I misunderstood your meaning?

(Ryan is a chronic liar as well. What a pair!)

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Now that the dust has settled somewhat and people are beginning to understand just what happened, it appears, that Romney made history.

Six hours after the American Consulate in Libya issued a statement after hearing there might be protests due to a youtube vid denigrating Islam, Romney maps the statement to Obama and calls it "disgraceful". Then after learning the full story, that A. Obama didn't issue the statement and B. It was issued prior to the protests..Romney doubles down. This was done during an ongoing American crisis. Even some conservatives are pretty shocked.

Some are saying this is Romney's "jump the shark" moment. Basically, I personally think that happened when the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCare. But this does illustrate what a poor candidate and politician Romney is..and it also made history..because this is the first time a Presidential Candidate has done something like this.

However..Romney did get one thing right..the Disgraceful part. Except..it applied to Romney.

Nah. Romney denounced the statement made by the embassy. He's dead on. And he did not say that the White House ordered or recommended the statement. He said that the administration is responsible, which is also true. His mistake was political, not factual. He should have simply left the administration out of it, i.e., as far as the statement goes. He merely needed to point out that Obama's administration set the tone for this disgraceful statement as a result of the president's apology-appeasement-retreat foreign policy in the face of Islamic terrorism. The rest is just the leftist media letting Obama get away with incompetence and lying about what Romney actually said and why.

Personal opinion: Romney should have just denounced the statement and left it at that, while saving the rest for the debates. I understand what many conservatives who are defending Romney are trying to get at, but in my opinion, they're missing the point. This was a serious political error particularly in the face of a leftist and corrupt mainstream media in the bag for Obama. As for the conservatives adding their voices to that of the leftist barrage, they're stupid. Just shut up.

In other words, let the administration hang itself. Unfortunately, the sting of its stupidity: Clinton once again essentially apologizing for the video the very next day, the White House press secretary prattling on about how the worldwide turmoil is merely about the video (liar, dumbass), and Obama's serious diplomatic gaff about Egypt not being an ally, which, let's face it, is technically true, though not formally.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Now that the dust has settled somewhat and people are beginning to understand just what happened, it appears, that Romney made history.

Six hours after the American Consulate in Libya issued a statement after hearing there might be protests due to a youtube vid denigrating Islam, Romney maps the statement to Obama and calls it "disgraceful". Then after learning the full story, that A. Obama didn't issue the statement and B. It was issued prior to the protests..Romney doubles down. This was done during an ongoing American crisis. Even some conservatives are pretty shocked.

Some are saying this is Romney's "jump the shark" moment. Basically, I personally think that happened when the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCare. But this does illustrate what a poor candidate and politician Romney is..and it also made history..because this is the first time a Presidential Candidate has done something like this.

However..Romney did get one thing right..the Disgraceful part. Except..it applied to Romney.

Nah. Romney denounced the statement made by the embassy. He's dead on. And he did not say that the White House ordered or recommended the statement. He said that the administration is responsible, which is also true. His mistake was political, not factual. He should have simply left the administration out of it, i.e., as far as the statement goes. He merely needed to point out that Obama's administration set the tone for this disgraceful statement as a result of the president's apology-appeasement-retreat foreign policy in the face of Islamic terrorism. The rest is just the leftist media letting Obama get away with incompetence and lying about what Romney actually said and why.

Wow.

You have completely rewritten what actually happened. There's not even one shred of truth or fact in your post.

HOW do rw's DO that?

 

[Sallow]

History making? Lol

What fucking planet do you live on?.

It's never been done.

This was a first.

So? What exactly is historical about it?

Sometimes I think all you libs are just irrational, emotional knee jerk reactionaries.

Romney was right.

This is the first time in American history a Presidential candidate criticized an opponent for a crisis that was still unfolding.

He also got the facts wrong.

And this is a terrible precedent. A President, no matter which party that President hails from, must be allowed a good deal of "breathing room" during sensitive and volatile issues that involve American lives.

The whole "we've got to come together as a nation" meme the GOP has rattled off on many ocassions during the last administration just got completely dashed by this.

They can never..ever..trot that one out again.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

BTW, what happened to the rule about having only ten lines in your signature?

If I'm counting correctly, MD Rawlings sig goes to 15 lines.

 

[Sallow]

Now that the dust has settled somewhat and people are beginning to understand just what happened, it appears, that Romney made history.

Six hours after the American Consulate in Libya issued a statement after hearing there might be protests due to a youtube vid denigrating Islam, Romney maps the statement to Obama and calls it "disgraceful". Then after learning the full story, that A. Obama didn't issue the statement and B. It was issued prior to the protests..Romney doubles down. This was done during an ongoing American crisis. Even some conservatives are pretty shocked.

Some are saying this is Romney's "jump the shark" moment. Basically, I personally think that happened when the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCare. But this does illustrate what a poor candidate and politician Romney is..and it also made history..because this is the first time a Presidential Candidate has done something like this.

However..Romney did get one thing right..the Disgraceful part. Except..it applied to Romney.

Nah. Romney denounced the statement made by the embassy. He's dead on. And he did not say that the White House ordered or recommended the statement. He said that the administration is responsible, which is also true. His mistake was political, not factual. He should have simply left the administration out of it, i.e., as far as the statement goes. He merely needed to point out that Obama's administration set the tone for this disgraceful statement as a result of the president's apology-appeasement-retreat foreign policy in the face of Islamic terrorism. The rest is just the leftist media letting Obama get away with incompetence and lying about what Romney actually said and why.

Personal opinion: he should have just denounced the statement and left it at that, while saving the rest for the debates.

That's bullshit.

Romney first said that it was Obama that "apologized". And he hadn't a clue how events unfolded.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

It's never been done.

This was a first.

So? What exactly is historical about it?

Sometimes I think all you libs are just irrational, emotional knee jerk reactionaries.

Romney was right.

This is the first time in American history a Presidential candidate criticized an opponent for a crisis that was still unfolding.

He also got the facts wrong.

And this is a terrible precedent. A President, no matter which party that President hails from, must be allowed a good deal of "breathing room" during sensitive and volatile issues that involve American lives.

The whole "we've got to come together as a nation" meme the GOP has rattled off on many ocassions during the last administration just got completely dashed by this.

They can never..ever..trot that one out again.

That's what makes Mittens' actions so reprehensible - He was purposely putting American lives in danger.

How would he react if he were the president? would he go off half-cocked again?

Obama has excellent instincts when it comes to foreign affairs and diplomacy. He would never have jumped in with a statement before he had all the information.

Whatever else happens, someone really needs to get control of the the Etch A Sketch's big mouth before he sparks an international incident that does lead to American deaths. As it is right now, Mittens is no better than the pseudo church pastor, Jones.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Now that the dust has settled somewhat and people are beginning to understand just what happened, it appears, that Romney made history.

Six hours after the American Consulate in Libya issued a statement after hearing there might be protests due to a youtube vid denigrating Islam, Romney maps the statement to Obama and calls it "disgraceful". Then after learning the full story, that A. Obama didn't issue the statement and B. It was issued prior to the protests..Romney doubles down. This was done during an ongoing American crisis. Even some conservatives are pretty shocked.

Some are saying this is Romney's "jump the shark" moment. Basically, I personally think that happened when the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCare. But this does illustrate what a poor candidate and politician Romney is..and it also made history..because this is the first time a Presidential Candidate has done something like this.

However..Romney did get one thing right..the Disgraceful part. Except..it applied to Romney.

This was typical of a desperate candidate attempting to exploit a serious international incident, in the context of Romney being very weak when it comes to foreign policy issues.

It backfired on Romney, of course, because he lacks the political skill and instinct to know when to speak and when to remain silent.

Indeed, had Romney remained silent on the issue until the facts were known, that silence would have spoken volumes for Romney in his favor.

In addition to making an historic blunder, Romney also squandered a valuable political opportunity.

 

[Sallow]

So? What exactly is historical about it?

Sometimes I think all you libs are just irrational, emotional knee jerk reactionaries.

Romney was right.

This is the first time in American history a Presidential candidate criticized an opponent for a crisis that was still unfolding.

He also got the facts wrong.

And this is a terrible precedent. A President, no matter which party that President hails from, must be allowed a good deal of "breathing room" during sensitive and volatile issues that involve American lives.

The whole "we've got to come together as a nation" meme the GOP has rattled off on many ocassions during the last administration just got completely dashed by this.

They can never..ever..trot that one out again.

That's what makes Mittens' actions so reprehensible - He was purposely putting American lives in danger.

How would he react if he were the president? would he go off half-cocked again?

Obama has excellent instincts when it comes to foreign affairs and diplomacy. He would never have jumped in with a statement before he had all the information.

Whatever else happens, someone really needs to get control of the the Etch A Sketch's big mouth before he sparks an international incident that does lead to American deaths. As it is right now, Mittens is no better than the pseudo church pastor, Jones.

That's really the bigger picture.

He was so willing to go after a sitting President at a time of crisis without fully thinking through the ramifications, how would he react if say..two allies attacked each other?

That's not so far fetched..Britain has fought Argentina and Greece has a great deal of animosity toward Turkey.

Or..how would he get countries like China and Russia, who sit on the security council in the UN..to join him on sanctions against..I dunno..Iran?

He's really screwed the pooch this time.

 

[Erand7899]

It took the Appeasement Administration over 24 hours to respond.. To calm and reassure a Nation under attack once more on 9-11.. the only release was an apology to the very Terrorists who slaughtered Americans.

ABSENT LEADERSHIP*** FAILED POLICIES**

Still lying about the apology, aren't you?

Some people are too stupid to look for themselves and see that a condemnation is not an apology. They let the RW talking points think for them.

Stupidity is the inability to learn. You are so obsessed with defending your leader, that you do not see just how trivial your parsing of words is. The fact is that even your leader walked away from the apology/condemnation, as not their policy, while the state department doubled down on the same subject. This administration has no idea of how to respond to what is happening in the Middle East.

The only good that has come out of this, is that Obama finally managed to utter the word terrorist, without referring to other Americans.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Now that the dust has settled somewhat and people are beginning to understand just what happened, it appears, that Romney made history.

Six hours after the American Consulate in Libya issued a statement after hearing there might be protests due to a youtube vid denigrating Islam, Romney maps the statement to Obama and calls it "disgraceful". Then after learning the full story, that A. Obama didn't issue the statement and B. It was issued prior to the protests..Romney doubles down. This was done during an ongoing American crisis. Even some conservatives are pretty shocked.

Some are saying this is Romney's "jump the shark" moment. Basically, I personally think that happened when the Supreme Court upheld ObamaCare. But this does illustrate what a poor candidate and politician Romney is..and it also made history..because this is the first time a Presidential Candidate has done something like this.

However..Romney did get one thing right..the Disgraceful part. Except..it applied to Romney.

Nah. Romney denounced the statement made by the embassy. He's dead on. And he did not say that the White House ordered or recommended the statement. He said that the administration is responsible, which is also true. His mistake was political, not factual. He should have simply left the administration out of it, i.e., as far as the statement goes. He merely needed to point out that Obama's administration set the tone for this disgraceful statement as a result of the president's apology-appeasement-retreat foreign policy in the face of Islamic terrorism. The rest is just the leftist media letting Obama get away with incompetence and lying about what Romney actually said and why.

Wow.

You have completely rewritten what actually happened. There's not even one shred of truth or fact in your post.

HOW do rw's DO that?

He denounced the statement for which he held the administration responsible.

And yes the statement was released before the attack, which means both the embassy and the Egyptian government knew it was coming.

What's inaccurate? Be specific.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/wall-street-journal-defends-romney-against-pundit-class

 

[Sallow]

Nah. Romney denounced the statement made by the embassy. He's dead on. And he did not say that the White House ordered or recommended the statement. He said that the administration is responsible, which is also true. His mistake was political, not factual. He should have simply left the administration out of it, i.e., as far as the statement goes. He merely needed to point out that Obama's administration set the tone for this disgraceful statement as a result of the president's apology-appeasement-retreat foreign policy in the face of Islamic terrorism. The rest is just the leftist media letting Obama get away with incompetence and lying about what Romney actually said and why.

Wow.

You have completely rewritten what actually happened. There's not even one shred of truth or fact in your post.

HOW do rw's DO that?

He denounced the statement for which he held the administration responsible.

And yes the statement was released before the attack, which means both the embassy and the Egyptian government knew it was coming, and of course all of that's been confirmed.

What's inaccurate? Be specific.

"The Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,"
Fact-checking Romney's statements on Libya attacks - San Jose Mercury News

That was Romney's first statement to the press regarding the "response". The "response" he was referring to came from the consolate and was issued prior to any attacks. It was meant to quell anger over the video that had gone viral on youtube. The attack itself, doesn't seem to have come from protestors..and may have been an Al Qaeda operation meant to address a drone attack that killed one of their leaders in Libya.

By the way..this sort of thing is nothing new. Bush went far beyond "apologizing" during the surge. Part of tactics they used..was borrowed from a template learned from COIN in Vietnam. What they did was actively recruit former Al Qaeda fighters and enemies in Iraq to help the effort to quell the violence. They were called the "Sons of Iraq". I don't recall either party condemning that activity when it was on going.

 

[Yurt]

if this is a historical mistake by romney....maybe i will change my mind and vote for him

 

[Sallow]

if this is a historical mistake by romney....maybe i will change my mind and vote for him

As opposed to what?

Voting for Ron Paul?

Here's a hint..he isn't running.

 

[Yurt]

save your hints, you don't have a clue who i'm voting for shallow

gary johnson

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Wow.

You have completely rewritten what actually happened. There's not even one shred of truth or fact in your post.

HOW do rw's DO that?

He denounced the statement for which he held the administration responsible.

And yes the statement was released before the attack, which means both the embassy and the Egyptian government knew it was coming, and of course all of that's been confirmed.

What's inaccurate? Be specific.

"The Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,"
Fact-checking Romney's statements on Libya attacks - San Jose Mercury News

That was Romney's first statement to the press regarding the "response". The "response" he was referring to came from the consolate and was issued prior to any attacks. It was meant to quell anger over the video that had gone viral on youtube. The attack itself, doesn't seem to have come from protestors..and may have been an Al Qaeda operation meant to address a drone attack that killed one of their leaders in Libya.

By the way..this sort of thing is nothing new. Bush went far beyond "apologizing" during the surge. Part of tactics they used..was borrowed from a template learned from COIN in Vietnam. What they did was actively recruit former Al Qaeda fighters and enemies in Iraq to help the effort to quell the violence. They were called the "Sons of Iraq". I don't recall either party condemning that activity when it was on going.

Blah . . . blah . . . blah . . . blah. Huh? Incoherent drivel.

We don't care about the rationalization for the statement. It was disgraceful. Inexcusable. Unacceptable.

Period.

Statements? The only statement that needed to be made was from the White House telling the Egyptian government that it had better damn well make sure that our embassy and its personnel are protected from assault.

Period.

We know the embassy's pussy-ass statement was issued before the attack, by some reports up to six hours before!

That means both the embassy and the Egyptian government knew it was coming.

What the hell happened?

How did this breach of security happen?

Romney's initial remarks went to the Cairo embassy's statement. He denounced it, and hours passed before the Administration—what the hell was it doing?—distanced itself from the statement, essentially saying the same thing as Romney: that the statement was inappropriate and did not reflect America's values.

All Romney did in addition to denouncing the statement was to hold the Administration responsible for it, which, politically speaking, was unnecessary.

The president is responsible for what our embassies say! Albeit, that's not the same thing as the White House actually ordering or directing the embassy to make that statement. But Romney didn't say the White House did that. He merely said the White House was responsible for that statement given that (1) the Administration did not address the inappropriateness of it for hours and (2) Obama's foreign policy of appeasement and apology is essentially the impetus of it.

That punk apologized for America on foreign soil, accusing his own country of arrogance and torture (waterboarding), as if we were not at war with barbarous Islamic fascists.

The timing of the embassy's statement is irrelevant, except that it was issued before. For obvious reasons that fly right over the heads of some, that's even more damning! 9/11! The video was just an excuse. The instigators, the leaders, the organizers of this attack merely used the video to fire up the mob! Hell, most of those idiots think that the U.S. government is directly reasonable for the video or that the U.S. government has a responsibility to prevent its release. LOL! Bumpkins. Idiots. Know-nothing rabble.

The White House and the leftist mainstream media in the bag for Obama is merely trying to confound the matter, misdirect and change the nature of what Romney was getting at, however politically inadvisable it was at this time.

I would that Romney had simply denounced the statement and left the rest for the debates. You see, I knew the leftist media would pull this crap and that a handful of stupid, kiss-ass, beltway "conservatives" could always be found to undermine the Republican candidate's point.

And what has been the result. Clinton, the very next day, essentially reiterates the same nonsense about the video, and the Administration's press secretary claims this worldwide calamity is due to the video, not to any failings of American foreign policy. Right. Of course not.

The attack on the Libyan consulate is another matter altogether.

 

[JimH52]

Romney acted presidential while Obama slept.

Indeed.......and looked it too, by the way!!!

Reality is 95% perception. As this shit esclates all over the map, Romney looks decisive while Obama looks like he's hoping this shit will just blow over FTG.

At the end of the day, what will endure? That on the anniversary of 9/11, the administration was sitting around the White House playing pocket pool as our embassy was stormed = more living in Disney.

Everythings good Warrior bro........

I agree, but the Liberal Press is doing a full court Press to try and Twist it and Make Obama look good and Romney bad, and I am afraid the Masses of Everyday Americans appear to be buying it.
Just shows you how Ignorant of what is going on the Average Voter is. Were Watching the Result of Obama's Weak, Disjointed, and Short sighted Foreign Policy unfold, and the Number of People who trust Obama more than Romney on Foreign Policy is actually rising. If you believe the Polls.

The media did not MAKE Mitt make the stupid statements that even republicans knew how bad it was.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.co...nd-not-presidential/politics/2012/09/12/48886

 

[copsnrobbers]

The Multi Millionaire Businessman and Governor vs. the Community Organizer.

What laughing stock!

Obby's gonna be sellin shoes in down town Chicago soon. Michele can go back to her corrupt hospital and turn away the poor again. Fuck Face's both of them.

 

[Peach]

Romney acted presidential while Obama slept.

Horse hockey! Troops are IN YEMEN, Libya surrounded by warships; Obama is no bush, he can think and speak at the same time.

The anti Obama crowd in composed of unbalanced Bush boot lickers, the ones who stayed home when MEN like Dole and McCain ran; it takes a TV sitcom teenager candidate to get them excited. Romney deserves better than today's GOP. One of the best leaves this year (SNOWE) and the Collins, Martinez, and Kirk types are drowned out by the Thurmond 2012s. A sad sight from a party that gave us Eisenhower, Ford, and and the above.