Romney: Income inequality is just "envy"

[Skull Pilot]

OK what you don't seem to understand is that if a law is passed then it is LEGAL therefore the congress members aren't doing anything ILLEGAL either. So how are they "criminals" when they arenlt doing anything ILLEGAL?
Making it LEGAL it benefits both congress and Joe Business and they are both taking advantage of it therefore if one is "guilty" then both are "guilty" Furthermore, why would congress members pass such a law if Joe Business wasn't a willing participant as he buys their influence and support? They are both integral parts of a corrupt system and they BOTH contribute to it so they are both "quilty"




nope they didn't "pass" them but they did BUY them. Without their money there would be no reason to pass such laws.

The biggest flaw in your argument is that you are intent on calling congress members "criminals" for selling their votes and support but you refuse to apply that same standard to the BUYER of that now legel "product." If one party is guilty for selling it then by engaging in the same criminal enterprise so is the buyer.

They are criminals in every sense of the word. They exist to take our money from us and make themselves rich in the process. They do this by writing and passing laws that only apply to them.

They are the criminal elite.

There would be no legal graft if congress didn't first pass laws that apply only to them.

OMG. If they pass laws to make it LEGAL then it is NOT ILLEGAL. LOL

However, if you argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

The fact that you continue to exclude joe business shows that your argument is flawed repeating it over and over again willl not validate it.

IF IT"S ILLEGAL FOR US IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM

Or are you too fucking ovine minded to get that

 

[drsmith1072]

They are criminals in every sense of the word. They exist to take our money from us and make themselves rich in the process. They do this by writing and passing laws that only apply to them.

They are the criminal elite.

There would be no legal graft if congress didn't first pass laws that apply only to them.

OMG. If they pass laws to make it LEGAL then it is NOT ILLEGAL. LOL

However, if you argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

The fact that you continue to exclude joe business shows that your argument is flawed repeating it over and over again willl not validate it.

IF IT"S ILLEGAL FOR US IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM

Or are you too fucking ovine minded to get that

LOL SHOULD BE is the perfect phrase to single out in your rant because even though you believe it SHOULD BE illegal in reality it is NOT.

However, if your argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

Your argument is flawed and no amount of spin or repetition will change that.

 

[Skull Pilot]

OMG. If they pass laws to make it LEGAL then it is NOT ILLEGAL. LOL

However, if you argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

The fact that you continue to exclude joe business shows that your argument is flawed repeating it over and over again willl not validate it.

IF IT"S ILLEGAL FOR US IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM

Or are you too fucking ovine minded to get that

LOL SHOULD BE is the perfect phrase to single out in your rant because even though you believe it SHOULD BE illegal in reality it is NOT.

However, if your argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

Your argument is flawed and no amount of spin or repetition will change that.

You're a government ass kisser and no amount of corruption will ever be enough for you.

 

[drsmith1072]

IF IT"S ILLEGAL FOR US IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM

Or are you too fucking ovine minded to get that

LOL SHOULD BE is the perfect phrase to single out in your rant because even though you believe it SHOULD BE illegal in reality it is NOT.

However, if your argument is that it is a crime then ALL participants are guilty including joe business.

Your argument is flawed and no amount of spin or repetition will change that.

You're a government ass kisser and no amount of corruption will ever be enough for you.

How does attacking me personally offer anything to substantiate your argument?

The FACT is that you argument is flawed and does not make sense. How can something that is LEGAL be ILLEGAL just because you say so??

My guess is that Joe business would not happy with your defense. LOL

 

[FireFly]

I don't care what narrative any party or media puts on our situation, the bottom line the USG socialized the rich & bankers. Many of the largest companies & their unions got secretly bailed out with a $16.115 TRILLION secret bailout. This was robbed from the citizens over many years as they made bad loans driving down the value of our wages. Those trillions should have been handed out back to the citizens who are the victims of this scheme & not the bankers who caused this mess. The citizens would have deposited this money in the banks or spent it stimulating the economy. At least the money would be in our named accounts instead of the bankers who screwed us in the first place.

Bailed-out Zombie Banks have screwed the people of Japan for 20 years. Now they are screwing US with the same exact scheme. I will not vote for any asshole who continues this policy. This money must be taken back from these companies or give the rest of us the same amount. And don't tell me they paid it all back. That is a load of crap. The Fed's balance sheet is stacked full of bad paper from these corrupt crony capitalist. Paying back $700 billion of $16.115 trillion is not a payback, it just covers the interest they owe us.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure.

Any Fucking Questions????????????????
Source: GAO analysis of Federal Reserve System data. GAO-11-696 Federal Reserve System.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't care what narrative any party or media puts on our situation, the bottom line the USG socialized the rich & bankers. Many of the largest companies & their unions got secretly bailed out with a $16.115 TRILLION secret bailout. This was robbed from the citizens over many years as they made bad loans driving down the value of our wages. Those trillions should have been handed out back to the citizens who are the victims of this scheme & not the bankers who caused this mess. The citizens would have deposited this money in the banks or spent it stimulating the economy. At least the money would be in our named accounts instead of the bankers who screwed us in the first place.

Bailed-out Zombie Banks have screwed the people of Japan for 20 years. Now they are screwing US with the same exact scheme. I will not vote for any asshole who continues this policy. This money must be taken back from these companies or give the rest of us the same amount. And don't tell me they paid it all back. That is a load of crap. The Fed's balance sheet is stacked full of bad paper from these corrupt crony capitalist. Paying back $700 billion of $16.115 trillion is not a payback, it just covers the interest they owe us.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure.

Any Fucking Questions????????????????
Source: GAO analysis of Federal Reserve System data. GAO-11-696 Federal Reserve System.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure

OMG! But they were short term loans, long ago repaid.
How would a loan like that have saved anyone from foreclosure?

 

[FireFly]

I don't care what narrative any party or media puts on our situation, the bottom line the USG socialized the rich & bankers. Many of the largest companies & their unions got secretly bailed out with a $16.115 TRILLION secret bailout. This was robbed from the citizens over many years as they made bad loans driving down the value of our wages. Those trillions should have been handed out back to the citizens who are the victims of this scheme & not the bankers who caused this mess. The citizens would have deposited this money in the banks or spent it stimulating the economy. At least the money would be in our named accounts instead of the bankers who screwed us in the first place.

Bailed-out Zombie Banks have screwed the people of Japan for 20 years. Now they are screwing US with the same exact scheme. I will not vote for any asshole who continues this policy. This money must be taken back from these companies or give the rest of us the same amount. And don't tell me they paid it all back. That is a load of crap. The Fed's balance sheet is stacked full of bad paper from these corrupt crony capitalist. Paying back $700 billion of $16.115 trillion is not a payback, it just covers the interest they owe us.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure.

Any Fucking Questions????????????????
Source: GAO analysis of Federal Reserve System data. GAO-11-696 Federal Reserve System.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure

OMG! But they were short term loans, long ago repaid.
How would a loan like that have saved anyone from foreclosure?

Show me where the $16.115 trillion was paid back!!!
Show me that the Fed's balance sheet is smaller than before the bail-out!!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't care what narrative any party or media puts on our situation, the bottom line the USG socialized the rich & bankers. Many of the largest companies & their unions got secretly bailed out with a $16.115 TRILLION secret bailout. This was robbed from the citizens over many years as they made bad loans driving down the value of our wages. Those trillions should have been handed out back to the citizens who are the victims of this scheme & not the bankers who caused this mess. The citizens would have deposited this money in the banks or spent it stimulating the economy. At least the money would be in our named accounts instead of the bankers who screwed us in the first place.

Bailed-out Zombie Banks have screwed the people of Japan for 20 years. Now they are screwing US with the same exact scheme. I will not vote for any asshole who continues this policy. This money must be taken back from these companies or give the rest of us the same amount. And don't tell me they paid it all back. That is a load of crap. The Fed's balance sheet is stacked full of bad paper from these corrupt crony capitalist. Paying back $700 billion of $16.115 trillion is not a payback, it just covers the interest they owe us.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure.

Any Fucking Questions????????????????
Source: GAO analysis of Federal Reserve System data. GAO-11-696 Federal Reserve System.

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure

OMG! But they were short term loans, long ago repaid.
How would a loan like that have saved anyone from foreclosure?

Show me where the $16.115 trillion was paid back!!!
Show me that the Fed's balance sheet is smaller than before the bail-out!!!

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 19, 2012

 

[FireFly]

Just in case you were wondering: $16.1 trillion divided by the US population is $52,000 each or $160,000 per household. That would have saved most from foreclosure

OMG! But they were short term loans, long ago repaid.
How would a loan like that have saved anyone from foreclosure?

Show me where the $16.115 trillion was paid back!!!
Show me that the Fed's balance sheet is smaller than before the bail-out!!!

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 19, 2012

Remember that they said they would not tell how much it gave these banks because it would cause problems for them in the market.

Go back pre-bail-out exactly 4 years ago to the Fed's January 17, 2008 release.

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 17, 2008.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out. These companies have a lot more to pay back. Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back. They simply re-arranged the deck chairs on the Titanic.

A Real Jaw Dropper at the Federal Reserve

What have we learned so far from the disclosure of more than 21,000 transactions? We have learned that the $700 billion Wall Street bailout signed into law by President George W. Bush turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country. Among those are Goldman Sachs, which received nearly $600 billion; Morgan Stanley, which received nearly $2 trillion; Citigroup, which received $1.8 trillion; Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed.

We also learned that the Fed's multi-trillion bailout was not limited to Wall Street and big banks, but that some of the largest corporations in this country also received a very substantial bailout. Among those are General Electric, McDonald's, Caterpillar, Harley Davidson, Toyota and Verizon.

Perhaps most surprising is the huge sum that went to bail out foreign private banks and corporations including two European megabanks -- Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse -- which were the largest beneficiaries of the Fed's purchase of mortgage-backed securities.

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

 

[editec]

Romney: Income inequality is just "envy"

Denying that income inequity to this degree is okay for the economy is but pure shortsighted greed talking.

 

[Big Fitz]

Romney: Income inequality is just "envy"

Denying that income inequity to this degree is okay for the economy is but pure shortsighted greed talking.

Oh and demanding money without merit or work isn't greed of a more mendacious sort? At least he earned and invested smartly with what he DID earn.

Pulheeeze!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Show me where the $16.115 trillion was paid back!!!
Show me that the Fed's balance sheet is smaller than before the bail-out!!!

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 19, 2012

Remember that they said they would not tell how much it gave these banks because it would cause problems for them in the market.

Go back pre-bail-out exactly 4 years ago to the Fed's January 17, 2008 release.

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 17, 2008.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out. These companies have a lot more to pay back. Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back. They simply re-arranged the deck chairs on the Titanic.

A Real Jaw Dropper at the Federal Reserve

What have we learned so far from the disclosure of more than 21,000 transactions? We have learned that the $700 billion Wall Street bailout signed into law by President George W. Bush turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country. Among those are Goldman Sachs, which received nearly $600 billion; Morgan Stanley, which received nearly $2 trillion; Citigroup, which received $1.8 trillion; Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed.

We also learned that the Fed's multi-trillion bailout was not limited to Wall Street and big banks, but that some of the largest corporations in this country also received a very substantial bailout. Among those are General Electric, McDonald's, Caterpillar, Harley Davidson, Toyota and Verizon.

Perhaps most surprising is the huge sum that went to bail out foreign private banks and corporations including two European megabanks -- Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse -- which were the largest beneficiaries of the Fed's purchase of mortgage-backed securities.

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out.

OMG! $2 trillion? Not $16 trillion?

These companies have a lot more to pay back.

Which companies? How much?

Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back.

Who do you imagine did that?


turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country

The loans that were all paid back?

Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed

LOL!

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

So what?

 

[FireFly]

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 19, 2012

Remember that they said they would not tell how much it gave these banks because it would cause problems for them in the market.

Go back pre-bail-out exactly 4 years ago to the Fed's January 17, 2008 release.

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 17, 2008.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out. These companies have a lot more to pay back. Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back. They simply re-arranged the deck chairs on the Titanic.

A Real Jaw Dropper at the Federal Reserve

What have we learned so far from the disclosure of more than 21,000 transactions? We have learned that the $700 billion Wall Street bailout signed into law by President George W. Bush turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country. Among those are Goldman Sachs, which received nearly $600 billion; Morgan Stanley, which received nearly $2 trillion; Citigroup, which received $1.8 trillion; Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed.

We also learned that the Fed's multi-trillion bailout was not limited to Wall Street and big banks, but that some of the largest corporations in this country also received a very substantial bailout. Among those are General Electric, McDonald's, Caterpillar, Harley Davidson, Toyota and Verizon.

Perhaps most surprising is the huge sum that went to bail out foreign private banks and corporations including two European megabanks -- Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse -- which were the largest beneficiaries of the Fed's purchase of mortgage-backed securities.

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out.

OMG! $2 trillion? Not $16 trillion?

These companies have a lot more to pay back.

Which companies? How much?

Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back.

Who do you imagine did that?


turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country

The loans that were all paid back?

Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed

LOL!

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

So what?

The loans were not paid back. The Feds ballance sheet is still just as huge. The National Debt is even larger. They just sold the toxic crap to the GSE's & had AIG pay their other losses. The USG is still holding the bag for this crap from the big banks. They refuse to tell us who got the $2.2 Trillion.

"Will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shJSQQNZ5oA"]to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Remember that they said they would not tell how much it gave these banks because it would cause problems for them in the market.

Go back pre-bail-out exactly 4 years ago to the Fed's January 17, 2008 release.

FRB: H.4.1 Release--Factors Affecting Reserve Balances--January 17, 2008.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out. These companies have a lot more to pay back. Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back. They simply re-arranged the deck chairs on the Titanic.

You will notice that it now owns about $2 Trillion more debt than it did pre-bail-out.

OMG! $2 trillion? Not $16 trillion?

These companies have a lot more to pay back.

Which companies? How much?

Dumping toxic debt onto AIG, HUD, Fannie & Freddie does not mean they paid us back.

Who do you imagine did that?


turned out to be pocket change compared to the trillions and trillions of dollars in near-zero interest loans and other financial arrangements the Federal Reserve doled out to every major financial institution in this country

The loans that were all paid back?

Bear Stearns, which received nearly $1 trillion, and Merrill Lynch, which received some $1.5 trillion in short term loans from the Fed

LOL!

Deutsche Bank, a German lender, sold the Fed more than $290 billion worth of mortgage securities. Credit Suisse, a Swiss bank, sold the Fed more than $287 billion in mortgage bonds.

So what?

The loans were not paid back. The Feds ballance sheet is still just as huge. The National Debt is even larger. They just sold the toxic crap to the GSE's & had AIG pay their other losses. The USG is still holding the bag for this crap from the big banks. They refuse to tell us who got the $2.2 Trillion.

"Will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shJSQQNZ5oA"]to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars[/ame]

You said the loans were $16 trillion. How big is the balance sheet?
Who sold toxic crap to the GSEs?
Who had AIG pay for what losses?
Without specifics, you're like a mumbling homeless guy.

Who got the $2.2 trillion? The Fed buys bonds. The seller got the money.
It's not a secret. You can find the Fed's portfolio online if you'd like.
If you're looking to Sanders for information, I can understand why you're so confused.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Romney: Income inequality is just "envy"

....ANOTHER reason he won't be elected.

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August 2, 2012

AMERICANS;
Give Us MORE Equality​

"We vastly underestimate the level of inequality that we have in America. Our society is far more uneven in terms of wealth than we believe it is. Second, we want much more equality than both what we have and what we think we have. Apparently, when asked in a way that avoids hot-button terms, misconceptions, and the level of wealth people currently possess, Americans are actually in agreement about wanting a more equal distribution of wealth. In fact, the vast majority of Americans prefer a distribution of wealth more equal than what exists in Sweden, which is often placed rhetorically at the extreme far left in terms of political ideology--embraced by liberals as an ideal society and disparaged by conservatives as an overreaching socialist nanny state."