CDZ Robert E. Lee is Not Our Heritage

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    The irony is he in no way wanted to destroy the southern economy; the whole point of the war was to tax it to finance the subsidies and corporate welfare that would entirely benefit the northern states. If he had lived, he most likely would have been impeached by his own 'supporters'; they impeached Andrew Johnson precisely because he intended to follow Lincoln's plans for post-war legislation.
     
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    I look at the facts, I don't care about politics anymore.
     
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    According to their political speeches; their actions clearly demonstrate otherwise; blacks were never actually free in any northern state. They did away with statutory slavery purely for economic reasons; it wasn't viable for seasonal industries based on manufacturing and short growing seasons. In Lincoln's own state of Illnois, it was impossible for a black person to make a legal living, plus they had 'debt slavery', a distinction without a difference.

    Most educated people back then were fully aware of the geographical limitations of slavery, but this didn't prevent them from making up fake news in order to manipulate immigrants and their votes. Whether slavery was allowed in the new territories or not was a non-issue, it was already self-limiting, which was Webster's and Polk's points re the deadlock over the Wilmot Proviso. Jefferson Davis and John Freemont were also fully aware of the facts, so was Lincoln and every other politician on any side. It was about railroad and canal subsidies for northern states, protective tariffs for big business in the northern states.
     
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    So, what's your opinion of the left trying to erase history?
     
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    Lincoln was conflicted on Negroes, he naively thought they would all en mass, self deport back to Africa after the war. Lincoln himself was a white supremacist. Look it up. The irony here makes me speechless.
     
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    I opined on that already, it's disgusting. It's conformist group think and it's a fad. I already said so. Modern libs scare the poo out of me, more than the KKK or even ISIS. They violate evey ideal or precept of liberalism. THAT is where I am coming from.
     
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    I agree, I think that if they want to push the issue, there should be repercussions.

    Trying to erase history is egregious bullshit.
     
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    Lets tear down all statues every were. Let's remove the Washington monument. Washington was a rebel and a traitor (against England, he was a commissioned officer in the English Army sworn to protect the crown), he was a slave owner and a tax evader to the crown. When you put it THAT way. England also wanted to end slavery too, which our historians don't like to mention. Canada ended slavery and became willing members of the Empire and I can't fault that.
     
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    This speaks volumes about those like your ilk.........



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