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In all honesty, all this shows is that Reince is more intelligent than Wasserman-Shultz. He knows that Trump is drawing democrats as much as republicans into his tent. You tell me ANY republican candidate in the last 25 years who proclaimed that he would punish companies/corporation, for moving American jobs offshore?
This is exactly why he is drawing support from the left as well as the right, and people believe that he has the gonads to do it!
You can think whatever you want of the guy, (and I am sure you do) but he is talking about things that blue collar workers have been talking about for years, and neither party in Washington listened because of their donors.
So, I am not a Trump supporter, but put your thinking caps on a minute. Who WOULD YOU believe as a democrat or republican, when someone says they are going to keep jobs here? A billionaire who has done it, or some lady who hasn't driven a car in over 20 years? And who would you believe when they said they were going to fix the border problem? A billionaire who owes nothing to nobody, or a lady who owes her soul to lobbyists? Or for that matter, an ex Florida governor who proclaims he basically wants the border open?!?!?!
Older people look back and remember Ross Perot, and are reminded how the political class all laughed at what he said. Now Americans QUOTE what he said, because he told them the truth. Almost everything he predicted came to pass if we let the political class have their way, as he put it. That was long before Americans were this pissed with Washington.
While some may not like Trump, some may not like Bernie, and some may not like either one; we all should look at this as an OPPORTUNITY! Washington has been giving both dems and repubs the song and dance for many a election. Now we have two people from vastly different sides of the aisle putting forth questions, which they FINALLY are going to have to answer. The media HAS to hold the other candidates feet to the fire though!
Like I stated earlier, repub or dem debates, get an adult beverage, pop some corn, and watch the establishment candidates squirm. These 2 candidates will put forth questions that NONE of the establishment candidates want to touch. Let us see how good of politicians they really are, and do ANY of them deserve our vote for POTUS!
Doesn't Trump have clothing made outside the US?
People quote Perot? I'm sure some do, somewhere, but I don't ever recall anyone doing it since that presidential election. In fact, I don't know if I've seen or heard anyone speak of Perot in a positive way since then. He is mostly seen as 'that crazy billionaire who ran for president' when he's spoken of at all.
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office. For that matter, even were Trump to become president, I think people put too much emphasis on the presidency and ignore the limitations, somehow assuming a president can change things drastically without the approval of congress.
I also think that, come election time, any seeming support for different kinds of candidates will be drowned out by the majority of people continuing to vote for the same sort of 'establishment' candidates we see every 4 years.
In all honesty, all this shows is that Reince is more intelligent than Wasserman-Shultz. He knows that Trump is drawing democrats as much as republicans into his tent. You tell me ANY republican candidate in the last 25 years who proclaimed that he would punish companies/corporation, for moving American jobs offshore?
This is exactly why he is drawing support from the left as well as the right, and people believe that he has the gonads to do it!
You can think whatever you want of the guy, (and I am sure you do) but he is talking about things that blue collar workers have been talking about for years, and neither party in Washington listened because of their donors.
So, I am not a Trump supporter, but put your thinking caps on a minute. Who WOULD YOU believe as a democrat or republican, when someone says they are going to keep jobs here? A billionaire who has done it, or some lady who hasn't driven a car in over 20 years? And who would you believe when they said they were going to fix the border problem? A billionaire who owes nothing to nobody, or a lady who owes her soul to lobbyists? Or for that matter, an ex Florida governor who proclaims he basically wants the border open?!?!?!
Older people look back and remember Ross Perot, and are reminded how the political class all laughed at what he said. Now Americans QUOTE what he said, because he told them the truth. Almost everything he predicted came to pass if we let the political class have their way, as he put it. That was long before Americans were this pissed with Washington.
While some may not like Trump, some may not like Bernie, and some may not like either one; we all should look at this as an OPPORTUNITY! Washington has been giving both dems and repubs the song and dance for many a election. Now we have two people from vastly different sides of the aisle putting forth questions, which they FINALLY are going to have to answer. The media HAS to hold the other candidates feet to the fire though!
Like I stated earlier, repub or dem debates, get an adult beverage, pop some corn, and watch the establishment candidates squirm. These 2 candidates will put forth questions that NONE of the establishment candidates want to touch. Let us see how good of politicians they really are, and do ANY of them deserve our vote for POTUS!
Doesn't Trump have clothing made outside the US?
People quote Perot? I'm sure some do, somewhere, but I don't ever recall anyone doing it since that presidential election. In fact, I don't know if I've seen or heard anyone speak of Perot in a positive way since then. He is mostly seen as 'that crazy billionaire who ran for president' when he's spoken of at all.
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office. For that matter, even were Trump to become president, I think people put too much emphasis on the presidency and ignore the limitations, somehow assuming a president can change things drastically without the approval of congress.
I also think that, come election time, any seeming support for different kinds of candidates will be drowned out by the majority of people continuing to vote for the same sort of 'establishment' candidates we see every 4 years.
1. Ever hear the phrase, "that giant sucking sound?" If you haven't, you have not been paying much attention to Presidential politics for the last 25 years.
2. Trump seems to similar to other politicians? Now that is ridiculous. When was the last time you seen a candidate finance themselves, thus can say whatever they want?
3. Make changes to improve the country? Depends what you want, economic growth, or more of the same old-same old.
4. The limitations? Again, you have NOT been watching our current POTUS much have you.
And as far as him not having a chance to win; he has more of a chance than you or I do. If push comes to shove, he has more of a chance than most running, today, this hour, this minute.
Not to many are looking for him to win, but most are very thankful that he is bringing up topics that most candidates won't address. What is so BAD about bringing up something that over 65% of Americans think? What is so bad about pointing out that Washington negotiators stink? What is terrible about talking about derailing corporations from spiriting jobs away?
You tell all of us, which subject should be taboo because the majority of Americans think we shouldn't discuss them!!!!!
To many people want to hide their heads in the sand; and on most forums, some on the left, along with some on the right, say these topics are stupid. Well, here is your opportunity to prove they are! Get your establishment candidate to massage these topics away, and good luck with that.
It is more than obvious that supporters of Hillary, Jeb, Christie, and a few others don't want ANY of these topics on the front burner. They would rather NOT touch them, and all drag the conversation elsewhere. It makes no difference to ANY of them if a majority of Americans want these things addressed, they want it to be about a MODERATE republican, and a MODERATE Hillary. All these hard questions, no comprhende in their books.
Every voter who actually pays attention to politics, should use this OPPORTUNITY to see where the 2 political parties; and their nominees actually stand on these issues. What many on here are afraid of is..........their constituents who used to vote for them, may be surprised and change their minds!
In all honesty, all this shows is that Reince is more intelligent than Wasserman-Shultz. He knows that Trump is drawing democrats as much as republicans into his tent. You tell me ANY republican candidate in the last 25 years who proclaimed that he would punish companies/corporation, for moving American jobs offshore?
This is exactly why he is drawing support from the left as well as the right, and people believe that he has the gonads to do it!
You can think whatever you want of the guy, (and I am sure you do) but he is talking about things that blue collar workers have been talking about for years, and neither party in Washington listened because of their donors.
So, I am not a Trump supporter, but put your thinking caps on a minute. Who WOULD YOU believe as a democrat or republican, when someone says they are going to keep jobs here? A billionaire who has done it, or some lady who hasn't driven a car in over 20 years? And who would you believe when they said they were going to fix the border problem? A billionaire who owes nothing to nobody, or a lady who owes her soul to lobbyists? Or for that matter, an ex Florida governor who proclaims he basically wants the border open?!?!?!
Older people look back and remember Ross Perot, and are reminded how the political class all laughed at what he said. Now Americans QUOTE what he said, because he told them the truth. Almost everything he predicted came to pass if we let the political class have their way, as he put it. That was long before Americans were this pissed with Washington.
While some may not like Trump, some may not like Bernie, and some may not like either one; we all should look at this as an OPPORTUNITY! Washington has been giving both dems and repubs the song and dance for many a election. Now we have two people from vastly different sides of the aisle putting forth questions, which they FINALLY are going to have to answer. The media HAS to hold the other candidates feet to the fire though!
Like I stated earlier, repub or dem debates, get an adult beverage, pop some corn, and watch the establishment candidates squirm. These 2 candidates will put forth questions that NONE of the establishment candidates want to touch. Let us see how good of politicians they really are, and do ANY of them deserve our vote for POTUS!
Doesn't Trump have clothing made outside the US?
People quote Perot? I'm sure some do, somewhere, but I don't ever recall anyone doing it since that presidential election. In fact, I don't know if I've seen or heard anyone speak of Perot in a positive way since then. He is mostly seen as 'that crazy billionaire who ran for president' when he's spoken of at all.
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office. For that matter, even were Trump to become president, I think people put too much emphasis on the presidency and ignore the limitations, somehow assuming a president can change things drastically without the approval of congress.
I also think that, come election time, any seeming support for different kinds of candidates will be drowned out by the majority of people continuing to vote for the same sort of 'establishment' candidates we see every 4 years.
1. Ever hear the phrase, "that giant sucking sound?" If you haven't, you have not been paying much attention to Presidential politics for the last 25 years.
2. Trump seems to similar to other politicians? Now that is ridiculous. When was the last time you seen a candidate finance themselves, thus can say whatever they want?
3. Make changes to improve the country? Depends what you want, economic growth, or more of the same old-same old.
4. The limitations? Again, you have NOT been watching our current POTUS much have you.
And as far as him not having a chance to win; he has more of a chance than you or I do. If push comes to shove, he has more of a chance than most running, today, this hour, this minute.
Not to many are looking for him to win, but most are very thankful that he is bringing up topics that most candidates won't address. What is so BAD about bringing up something that over 65% of Americans think? What is so bad about pointing out that Washington negotiators stink? What is terrible about talking about derailing corporations from spiriting jobs away?
You tell all of us, which subject should be taboo because the majority of Americans think we shouldn't discuss them!!!!!
To many people want to hide their heads in the sand; and on most forums, some on the left, along with some on the right, say these topics are stupid. Well, here is your opportunity to prove they are! Get your establishment candidate to massage these topics away, and good luck with that.
It is more than obvious that supporters of Hillary, Jeb, Christie, and a few others don't want ANY of these topics on the front burner. They would rather NOT touch them, and all drag the conversation elsewhere. It makes no difference to ANY of them if a majority of Americans want these things addressed, they want it to be about a MODERATE republican, and a MODERATE Hillary. All these hard questions, no comprhende in their books.
Every voter who actually pays attention to politics, should use this OPPORTUNITY to see where the 2 political parties; and their nominees actually stand on these issues. What many on here are afraid of is..........their constituents who used to vote for them, may be surprised and change their minds!
1. Um, yes. How does the phrase relate to presidential politics, particularly in the context of this conversation?
2. I explained how Trump seems similar to other politicians. He is a self-promoter. He doesn't seem to have any honest desire or plan to improve the country for the average American; instead he comes off as someone grabbing attention. I also don't actually know how much Trump has put into financing his campaign, nor previous candidates, for that matter.
3. Catch-phrases and empty rhetoric aren't impressive qualifications for president. Nor does the president, by himself, necessarily have the power to improve the economy greatly. If a Trump presidency would spur economic growth, great. I haven't actually seen how this would be accomplished, though.
4. Yes, limitations. You know, checks and balances, three branches of government, congress with the power of the purse, etc. etc. The president is far from a dictator, and that includes Obama.
Of course Trump has more chance to win than I do. What does that matter? I have no chance whatsoever to win, I'm not running.
There's nothing bad about pointing out that our politicians tend to suck. That is not a good resume for a president, though. As to talking about stopping corporations from spiriting jobs away, that talk would have more weight if the person talking didn't do that very thing.
I didn't say any subject should be taboo. That is you making things up. I don't have any establishment candidate. I didn't say any topic was stupid.
I thought Perot seemed more honest in his campaign for president. I trusted his motives more than I do Trump's. I wouldn't want either of them as president, though.
Well if it's not like shoes why did you put a black loafer in the oval office?First of all Pinky, the term would be RINOs -- not "Rino's" which can only mean "Rino is". We do not use apostrophes to form a plural in Engish --- ever.
Second, the term "RINO" (or DINO) indicates you think the purpose of a politician is to further the goals of his political party.
It ain't.
The job of a POTUS, Congresscritter, Senator, Governor, Mayor etc etc is to serve the people that elect him or her. Not a fucking political party, which only exists to acquire power.
We elect such an official to work for We the People. Not They Who Belong to the Preferred Political Party. It ain't a fucking football game. Your use of the word "brands" sums up your whole problem. Electing a POTUS isn't like buying a pair of shoes.
In all honesty, all this shows is that Reince is more intelligent than Wasserman-Shultz. He knows that Trump is drawing democrats as much as republicans into his tent. You tell me ANY republican candidate in the last 25 years who proclaimed that he would punish companies/corporation, for moving American jobs offshore?
This is exactly why he is drawing support from the left as well as the right, and people believe that he has the gonads to do it!
You can think whatever you want of the guy, (and I am sure you do) but he is talking about things that blue collar workers have been talking about for years, and neither party in Washington listened because of their donors.
So, I am not a Trump supporter, but put your thinking caps on a minute. Who WOULD YOU believe as a democrat or republican, when someone says they are going to keep jobs here? A billionaire who has done it, or some lady who hasn't driven a car in over 20 years? And who would you believe when they said they were going to fix the border problem? A billionaire who owes nothing to nobody, or a lady who owes her soul to lobbyists? Or for that matter, an ex Florida governor who proclaims he basically wants the border open?!?!?!
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office.
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office.
I think that's a spot-on accurate impression. The simple fact that he's making noise in a vacuum, i.e. 2015, not even an election year, tells me he's more interested in grandstanding forhair timeface time than in any kind of candidacy at all. He's run this play before. He's an egomaniac. A year from now the only time you'll hear his name will be in quips like "remember a year ago when you guys were wetting your pants over Donald T. Rump?" And of course they'll deny it....
I get the draw of a candidate outside the norm. However, Trump seems too similar to the politicians we're used to getting as presidential candidates; he comes off as less interested in improving the lives of Americans than in improving his own. He seems to be a self-promoting entertainer more than a savvy businessman looking to make real changes in government to improve the country. Maybe that's a false impression, but I expect it (or something like it) is common enough that the man has virtually no chance at actually attaining the office.
I think that's a spot-on accurate impression. The simple fact that he's making noise in a vacuum, i.e. 2015, not even an election year, tells me he's more interested in grandstanding forhair timeface time than in any kind of candidacy at all. He's run this play before. He's an egomaniac. A year from now the only time you'll hear his name will be in quips like "remember a year ago when you guys were wetting your pants over Donald T. Rump?" And of course they'll deny it....
The one thing about it is that, as an egomaniac, he might think he really can be the best president ever, savior of the nation, solving all of our problems.
I haven't paid enough attention to Trump over the years to feel any sort of surety about his intentions, but it's one of those 'can't tell if serious....' kind of things.