Right Wing Anti-Gay Hate Group Furious At Ryan's Remarks Not To Bring Back DADT

One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.
 
I grew up in the deep south. Saw black teachers threatened by high school boys and the school board would do nothing because of the pressure from the parents. Saw high school boys attack a gay teacher in the mid 60s and saw the school board pressured by the parents to not do anything.
Same thing.
I played on one of the first integrated teams in high school. We went to other schools and the fans were screaming ****** so loud you could not hear the snap count or audibles. I vividly remember our running back so scared the first game he was not going to play. All of us white kids stood with him and told him he would score. He ran for 3 TDs that 1st game. We shut the other team out. They blocked our bus in outside the locker room after we beat them and the local police did nothing as the fans slashed the tires on the bus. Local state patrol officers escorted us in private cars back to our county.
They treated gays the same way back then.
And I will fight for everyone and anyone now because of what I saw. DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG no matter who it is.
And then they changed the law where blacks and whites could marry.
And they need to change the law where gays can marry.
Does not affect me and my wife one bit.
 
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One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.


Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)


Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.
 
I grew up in the deep south. Saw black teachers threatened by high school boys and the school board would do nothing because of the pressure from the parents. Saw high school boys attack a gay teacher in the mid 60s and saw the school board pressured by the parents to not do anything.
Same thing.
I played on one of the first integrated teams in high school. We went to other schools and the fans were screaming ****** so loud you could not hear the snap count or audibles. I vividly remember our running back so scared the first game he was not going to play. All of us white kids stood with him and told him he would score. He ran for 3 TDs that 1st game. We shut the other team out. They blocked our bus in outside the locker room after we beat them and the local police did nothing as the fans slashed the tires on the bus. Local state patrol officers escorted us in private cars back to our county.
They treated gays the same way back then.
And I will fight for everyone and anyone now because of what I saw. DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG no matter who it is.
And then they changed the law where blacks and whites could marry.
And they need to change the law where gays can marry.
Does not affect me and my wife one bit.




Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.
 
One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.


Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)


Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.

So...we want to ENCOURAGE monogamy, right?
 
One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.


Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)


Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.

I like that study man, that is great evidence.
I have one that is also a good one. Pro wrasslin is real.
 
I grew up in the deep south. Saw black teachers threatened by high school boys and the school board would do nothing because of the pressure from the parents. Saw high school boys attack a gay teacher in the mid 60s and saw the school board pressured by the parents to not do anything.
Same thing.
I played on one of the first integrated teams in high school. We went to other schools and the fans were screaming ****** so loud you could not hear the snap count or audibles. I vividly remember our running back so scared the first game he was not going to play. All of us white kids stood with him and told him he would score. He ran for 3 TDs that 1st game. We shut the other team out. They blocked our bus in outside the locker room after we beat them and the local police did nothing as the fans slashed the tires on the bus. Local state patrol officers escorted us in private cars back to our county.
They treated gays the same way back then.
And I will fight for everyone and anyone now because of what I saw. DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG no matter who it is.
And then they changed the law where blacks and whites could marry.
And they need to change the law where gays can marry.
Does not affect me and my wife one bit.




Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

Yes it does, we have a very large extended family with a gay and lesbian in it.
And instead of treating them like 2nd class citizens we fight for all of their rights.
We know their partners and want to see them be able to get married.
If they want to.
And it is none of your Damn business if they do so keep your busy body old lady mother hen nose out of it.
And most importantly Moe, we are not going away.
Get used to it. Our team is winning. Accept it or take your ball and go home and bitch and moan some more with your BS studies here.
The score board does not lie.

Wham it zero on set, EP team on the ready, KO team on the pads and 4th string D to group.
 
Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

How do you know that? Maybe he's in the wedding business and you want to deprive him of income. Maybe he's got a gay kid who he would like to see marry the consenting adult partner of their choice someday. Maybe he just realizes that marriage is beneficial to a society and allowing more people that benefit is good for all of us.
 
Jptr, I axed you a question. Please demonstrate the societal harm in allowing two non-familial, tax-paying citizens the fundamental right to legally marry.


I don't need to have it demonstrate societal harm to not want to recognize it. What part of that are you having trouble comprehending? I won't recognize it because to me there is no such thing as a homosexual marriage. I won't recognize it, I won't honor it, I won't allow my children to be taught it's acceptable nor will I paritcipate in it in any way shape or form. Legal prostitution causes no societal harm, I'm not for that either. Polygamny cause no societal harm, yet that is not allowed. Allowing close relatives to marry causes no societal harm, yet there are prohibitions against that. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GAY MARRIAGE, and that's the only point I need to not recognize it. Others make good points on the harm to a society though. Some I agree with, (in red), some I'm indefferent to, some I actually disagree with.

THE TOP TEN HARMS OF SAME-SEX "MARRIAGE"

Executive Summary

By Peter Sprigg

Some advocates of same-sex "marriage" scoff at the idea that it could harm anyone. Here are ten ways in which society could be harmed by legalizing same-sex "marriage." Most of these effects would become evident only in the long run, but several would occur immediately.

Immediate Effects

Taxpayers, consumers, and businesses would be forced to subsidize homosexual relationships. I
f same-sex marriage were legalized, all employers, public and private, large or small, would be required to offer spousal benefits to homosexual couples. You, as a taxpayer, consumer, or small business owner, would be forced to bear the expense of subsidizing homosexual relationships-including their higher health care costs.

Schools would teach that homosexual relationships are identical to heterosexual ones.
A lesbian who teaches 8th grade sex education in Massachusetts told NPR that she teaches her children how lesbians use "a sex toy" to have intercourse. If anyone objects, she says, "Give me a break. It's legal now." One father was jailed after protesting because his son-a kindergarten student-was given a book about same-sex couples.

Freedom of conscience and religious liberty would be threatened.

Churches and non-profit organizations could be stripped of their tax exemptions and religious psychologists, social workers, and marriage counselors could be denied licensing if they "discriminate" against homosexuals. Individual believers who disapprove of homosexual relationships may face a choice at work between forfeiting their freedom of speech and being fired.

Long-Term Effects

Fewer people would marry.

In Massachusetts, where same-sex "marriages" began in May 2004, only 52% of same-sex couples who live together had even bothered to "marry" by the end of 2006. Among opposite-sex couples, the comparable figure is 91%. In the Netherlands, the figures are even lower, with only 12% of homosexual couples having entered legal civil "marriages." Giving the option of same-sex "marriage" would tell society that marriage in general is "optional," not normative, and fewer people would marry.

Fewer people would remain monogamous and sexually faithful.

Among homosexual men, sex with multiple partners is tolerated and often expected. One study in the Netherlands showed that homosexual men with a steady partner had an average of eight sexual partners per year. If these behaviors are incorporated into what society affirms as "marriage," then fidelity among heterosexuals would likely decline as well.

Fewer people would remain married for a lifetime.

Even a homosexual psychologist has acknowledged that "gay and lesbian couples dissolve their relationships more frequently than heterosexual couples." The same Dutch study that showed the high rate of homosexual promiscuity also showed that the average homosexual male "partnership" lasts only 1.5 years. As the transience of homosexual relationships is incorporated in society's image of "marriage," we can expect that fewer heterosexuals would maintain a lifelong commitment.

Fewer children would be raised by a married mother and father.

Social science has clearly proven clearly that children do best when raised by their own married biological mother and father. Yet legalizing same-sex "marriage" would put an official stamp of approval on the deliberate creation of permanently motherless or fatherless families. As scholar Stanley Kurtz says, this "would likely speed us on the way toward

. . . more frequent out-of-wedlock birth, and skyrocketing family dissolution."

More children would grow up fatherless.

Most children who live with only one biological parent will live with their mothers, and lesbian couples are more likely to be raising children than homosexual male couples. Therefore, with same-sex "marriage," more children would suffer the specific negative consequences of fatherlessness, which include higher rates of youth incarceration among males and adolescent pregnancy among females. Research also shows negative outcomes for the children of sperm donors, who are used by some lesbian couples.

Birth rates would fall.

Same-sex "marriage" would eliminate the incentive for procreation that is implicit in defining marriage as a male-female union. There is already evidence of at least a correlation between same-sex "marriage" and low birth and fertility rates, both in the U.S. and abroad. While some people still harbor outdated fears about "over-population," demographers now understand that declining birth rates harm society.

Demands for legalization of polygamy would grow.

If a person's choice of spouse cannot be limited based on the sex of one's partner, it is hard to see how it could be limited based on the number of spouses either. This argument is already being pressed in the courts.
 
Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

How do you know that? Maybe he's in the wedding business and you want to deprive him of income. Maybe he's got a gay kid who he would like to see marry the consenting adult partner of their choice someday. Maybe he just realizes that marriage is beneficial to a society and allowing more people that benefit is good for all of us.

Or maybe he's a Christian in the wedding business who according to his faith is not allowed to pariticipate in the abomination of homosexual marriage so he will lose his business when he is sued for not providing services to a gay wedding. Marriage IS beneficial to society, gay marriage offers no benefits to society, nor for that matter do gay civili unions.
 
Jptr, I axed you a question. Please demonstrate the societal harm in allowing two non-familial, tax-paying citizens the fundamental right to legally marry.
I don't need to have it demonstrate societal harm to not want to recognize it. What part of that are you having trouble comprehending? I won't recognize it because to me there is no such thing as a homosexual marriage. I won't recognize it, I won't honor it, I won't allow my children to be taught it's acceptable nor will I paritcipate in it in any way shape or form. Legal prostitution causes no societal harm, I'm not for that either. Polygamny cause no societal harm, yet that is not allowed. Allowing close relatives to marry causes no societal harm, yet there are prohibitions against that. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GAY MARRIAGE, and that's the only point I need to not recognize it. Others make good points on the harm to a society though. Some I agree with, (in red), some I'm indefferent to, some I actually disagree with.

You aren't the government. While you, as a homophobe, are free to discriminate as you please, our government cannot.

Of course there is. Six states allow gay marriage. I am legally married in the state of CA so your statement is ludicrous on its face.

THE TOP TEN HARMS OF SAME-SEX "MARRIAGE"

Executive Summary

By Peter Sprigg

Some advocates of same-sex "marriage" scoff at the idea that it could harm anyone. Here are ten ways in which society could be harmed by legalizing same-sex "marriage." Most of these effects would become evident only in the long run, but several would occur immediately.

Immediate Effects

Taxpayers, consumers, and businesses would be forced to subsidize homosexual relationships. I
f same-sex marriage were legalized, all employers, public and private, large or small, would be required to offer spousal benefits to homosexual couples. You, as a taxpayer, consumer, or small business owner, would be forced to bear the expense of subsidizing homosexual relationships-including their higher health care costs.

We subsidize marriages but it's only gay couples that would be harmful? Sorry but that is not a societal harm, just bigotry. If you, as a taxpayer/business owner are personally opposed to interracial marriage, should you not have to subsidize that?

Schools would teach that homosexual relationships are identical to heterosexual ones.
A lesbian who teaches 8th grade sex education in Massachusetts told NPR that she teaches her children how lesbians use "a sex toy" to have intercourse. If anyone objects, she says, "Give me a break. It's legal now." One father was jailed after protesting because his son-a kindergarten student-was given a book about same-sex couples.

Freedom of conscience and religious liberty would be threatened.

Churches and non-profit organizations could be stripped of their tax exemptions and religious psychologists, social workers, and marriage counselors could be denied licensing if they "discriminate" against homosexuals. Individual believers who disapprove of homosexual relationships may face a choice at work between forfeiting their freedom of speech and being fired.

Long-Term Effects

Fewer people would marry.

In Massachusetts, where same-sex "marriages" began in May 2004, only 52% of same-sex couples who live together had even bothered to "marry" by the end of 2006. Among opposite-sex couples, the comparable figure is 91%. In the Netherlands, the figures are even lower, with only 12% of homosexual couples having entered legal civil "marriages." Giving the option of same-sex "marriage" would tell society that marriage in general is "optional," not normative, and fewer people would marry.

Fewer people would remain monogamous and sexually faithful.

Among homosexual men, sex with multiple partners is tolerated and often expected. One study in the Netherlands showed that homosexual men with a steady partner had an average of eight sexual partners per year. If these behaviors are incorporated into what society affirms as "marriage," then fidelity among heterosexuals would likely decline as well.

Fewer people would remain married for a lifetime.

Even a homosexual psychologist has acknowledged that "gay and lesbian couples dissolve their relationships more frequently than heterosexual couples." The same Dutch study that showed the high rate of homosexual promiscuity also showed that the average homosexual male "partnership" lasts only 1.5 years. As the transience of homosexual relationships is incorporated in society's image of "marriage," we can expect that fewer heterosexuals would maintain a lifelong commitment.

Fewer children would be raised by a married mother and father.

Social science has clearly proven clearly that children do best when raised by their own married biological mother and father. Yet legalizing same-sex "marriage" would put an official stamp of approval on the deliberate creation of permanently motherless or fatherless families. As scholar Stanley Kurtz says, this "would likely speed us on the way toward

. . . more frequent out-of-wedlock birth, and skyrocketing family dissolution."

More children would grow up fatherless.

Most children who live with only one biological parent will live with their mothers, and lesbian couples are more likely to be raising children than homosexual male couples. Therefore, with same-sex "marriage," more children would suffer the specific negative consequences of fatherlessness, which include higher rates of youth incarceration among males and adolescent pregnancy among females. Research also shows negative outcomes for the children of sperm donors, who are used by some lesbian couples.

Birth rates would fall.

Same-sex "marriage" would eliminate the incentive for procreation that is implicit in defining marriage as a male-female union. There is already evidence of at least a correlation between same-sex "marriage" and low birth and fertility rates, both in the U.S. and abroad. While some people still harbor outdated fears about "over-population," demographers now understand that declining birth rates harm society.

Demands for legalization of polygamy would grow.

If a person's choice of spouse cannot be limited based on the sex of one's partner, it is hard to see how it could be limited based on the number of spouses either. This argument is already being pressed in the courts.

All homophobia, not societal harms. Most of this crap was thoroughly debunked during the Prop 8 case.
 
Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)

Absolutley irrelevant to the 14th amendment rights of gays.



Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.

Globally, most of HIV and AIDS is within the straight community.

Not only that, before there was a cure for syphilis and gonorrhea, millions upon millions of heterosexuals died from those diseases. Ask your grandparents. It was in their lifetime.

And you better watch out because there is only one antibiotic left to treat gonorrhea. Straight people have been spreading the disease so far and so wide that it has grown immune to all treatments save one.

Dr. Manjula Lusti-Narasimhan, of the WHO Department of Reproductive Health and Research, said several countries -- including Australia, France, Japan, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom -- are reporting cases of resistance to cephalosporin antibiotics, the last treatment option against gonorrhea.

An estimated 106 million people are infected each year with the sexually transmitted disease, Lusti-Narasimhan said.

Won't be long now.

Therefore, using your brilliant logic, we should ban straight marriages.

And you ignore the fact that married couples have a lower incidence of STDs.



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Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

How do you know that? Maybe he's in the wedding business and you want to deprive him of income. Maybe he's got a gay kid who he would like to see marry the consenting adult partner of their choice someday. Maybe he just realizes that marriage is beneficial to a society and allowing more people that benefit is good for all of us.

Or maybe he's a Christian in the wedding business who according to his faith is not allowed to pariticipate in the abomination of homosexual marriage so he will lose his business when he is sued for not providing services to a gay wedding. Marriage IS beneficial to society, gay marriage offers no benefits to society, nor for that matter do gay civili unions.

Hyperbole and lies. No church has EVER been forced to marry a couple nor will they ever. You do realize that we already have equal access to religious marriage, right?

If marriage benefits a society, it benefits all couples, not just the ones YOU don't think are icky.
 
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Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

How do you know that? Maybe he's in the wedding business and you want to deprive him of income. Maybe he's got a gay kid who he would like to see marry the consenting adult partner of their choice someday. Maybe he just realizes that marriage is beneficial to a society and allowing more people that benefit is good for all of us.

Or maybe he's a Christian in the wedding business who according to his faith is not allowed to pariticipate in the abomination of homosexual marriage so he will lose his business when he is sued for not providing services to a gay wedding. Marriage IS beneficial to society, gay marriage offers no benefits to society, nor for that matter do gay civili unions.

Just how dumb are you? Seriously.

You don't have to get married in a church to receive marriage benefits from the State.

And now you are saying gay marriage provides no benefit to society. This is very interesting. At least you admit it does no harm.

It also demonstrates just how blind you are. Gay marriage provides a benefit to gays, dumbshit!

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I grew up in the deep south. Saw black teachers threatened by high school boys and the school board would do nothing because of the pressure from the parents. Saw high school boys attack a gay teacher in the mid 60s and saw the school board pressured by the parents to not do anything.
Same thing.
I played on one of the first integrated teams in high school. We went to other schools and the fans were screaming ****** so loud you could not hear the snap count or audibles. I vividly remember our running back so scared the first game he was not going to play. All of us white kids stood with him and told him he would score. He ran for 3 TDs that 1st game. We shut the other team out. They blocked our bus in outside the locker room after we beat them and the local police did nothing as the fans slashed the tires on the bus. Local state patrol officers escorted us in private cars back to our county.
They treated gays the same way back then.
And I will fight for everyone and anyone now because of what I saw. DISCRIMINATION IS WRONG no matter who it is.
And then they changed the law where blacks and whites could marry.
And they need to change the law where gays can marry.
Does not affect me and my wife one bit.




Not redifining marraige to include unions between two members of the same gender doesn't effect you or your wife either, yet you feel the need to voice an opinion on the issue.

Yes it does, we have a very large extended family with a gay and lesbian in it.
And instead of treating them like 2nd class citizens we fight for all of their rights.
They are not being denied any rights right now. You're fighting for them to be able to redifine what a marraige is not for them to get "equal" rights. Equal means the same and today they have the same exact rights regarding marriage as EVERY other citizen in America.

We know their partners and want to see them be able to get married.
If they want to.
And it is none of your Damn business if they do so keep your busy body old lady mother hen nose out of it.
It is my business. The legalization of gay marriage will effect every American citizen so every American citizen has the right to voice an opinion on the subject. See, that right to an opinion is a REAL right, not like the bs you're "fighting" for.
And most importantly Moe, we are not going away. No, you're right they won't go away as they have no shame anymore because people are ready, willing and happy to accept any type of foul and immoral behavior in today's society. Don't really give a crap one way or another, you, like them, will all have to answer to God for your perverse ways one day.
Get used to it. Our team is winning. Accept it or take your ball and go home and bitch and moan some more with your BS studies here.
The score board does not lie. No it doesn't and the numbers on the score board are soaring. HIV/Aids is making a massive come back among the gay male community. Perversion has it's consequences that's for sure.

Wham it zero on set, EP team on the ready, KO team on the pads and 4th string D to group.
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One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.


Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)


Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.

So...we want to ENCOURAGE monogamy, right?

A piece of paper isn't going to change these things. No piece of paper ensures a monogomous relationship. If you live a perverse lifestyle, that won't change because you get to file a joint income tax return.
 
One man one woman marriage is a massive failure flop.
55% of them end in divorce.
Typical example of the knee jerk religious KOOK right wing American response.
They pick up a fumble, run the wrong way for a safety and think they have accomplished something.


Lol. too funny.


A.28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners: "Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners. Bell and Weinberg p 308." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
B.79% of homosexual men say over half of sex partners are strangers: "The survey showed 79% of the respondents saying that over half of their sexual partners were strangers. Seventy percent said that over half of their sexual partners were people with whom they had sex only once. Bell and Weinberg pp.308-309." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
C.Modal range for homosexual sex partners 101-500: "In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al. found that "the modal range for number of sexual partners ever [of homosexuals] was 101–500." In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than 1000 lifetime sexual partners. Paul Van de Ven et al., "A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men," Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354." (exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php)
D.1978 study, 78% of gay men ad more than 100 partners, 28% more than 1000: "A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984." (catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html)
E.There is an extremely low rate of sexual fidelity among homosexual men as compared to married heterosexuals. Among married females 85% reported sexual fidelity. Among married men, 75.5% reported sexual fidelity. Among homosexual males in their current relationship, 4.5% reported sexual fidelity. (Sources:Laumann, The Social Organization of Sexuality, 216; McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, "Extramarital Sex," 170. This is extracted from Comparing the Lifestyles of Homosexual Couples to Married Couples)


Might explain the massive rise in HIV/Aids, not to mention the prevelence of other sexually transmitted diseases among gay males.

I like that study man, that is great evidence.
I have one that is also a good one. Pro wrasslin is real.

The CDC keep records also. The masssive increase in HIV/Aids among homo. males is staggering. There are penalties to every perversion.
 
They are not being denied any rights right now. You're fighting for them to be able to redifine what a marraige is not for them to get "equal" rights. Equal means the same and today they have the same exact rights regarding marriage as EVERY other citizen in America.

Let me know the instant you find evidence of gay married couples being allowed to file a federal joint income tax return, mm-kay?

Also, state sanctioned marriage has been redefined many times. Most recently, it was redefined from "the union of two people of the same race".

This weak "redefinition of marriage" objection is just another way of saying, "We have always discrminated, why stop now?"

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