Right to Migrant Labor

[priceless]

No, it "reeks" of exasperation with yet another dopey kid and/or mental case playing "Let's pretend!" and expecting to be taken seriously.

If drafts have been used in the past, why can't they be brought back for something like agricultural service?

Make-pretend is fun! Wheeeeee!!!!!!!

Are you finished degrading this thread yet? Is you belly full of food grown and prepared by people besides you? Are you satisfied with your position of permanent exemption from producing your own food? How does it feel? Like an entitlement well-deserved by your national superiority above those who toil for you?

 

[Unkotare]

If drafts have been used in the past, why can't they be brought back for something like agricultural service?

Make-pretend is fun! Wheeeeee!!!!!!!

Are you finished degrading this thread yet?

Are you ready to come back from Imagination Land and start growing up in the real world?

 

[MaryL]

What a fucking hypocrite. In one post you cry foul at the very accurate description of you as a fucking bigot and then reiterate your ignorant fucking bigotry. Are you mentally impaired in some way other than the obvious? I've read far too many of your bitchy, whiny, racist posts. You are as transparent as cellophane. Get your shit together and stop wallowing in hatred and fear; it's no way to live.

Feel better now? Self righteous jerk. I do NOT want to get into this with you. Ever. Mexicans have hurt me, not negotiable or debatable. Racism, or bigotry, that is really a matter of opinion. Prove it, jerk. I mean, can you? In a court of law, with facts? Because I am really tired of your or any one's else's allegations. PROVE IT. Or get off the pot. Can you do that?

If it makes a difference, I think you are a racist bigot.

Are you kidding me? If being a pompous ass was a virtue, you would be a saint. First of all, When people use race or ethnicity to avoid being rational & reasonable human beings, I don't find that acceptable. Second of all, you turn around and castigate someone for noticing that moral cowardly sycophantic "hypocrisy", and have the balls to use that same word? Right. That makes me even more cynical and hardened.

 

[MaryL]

What if socialism progresses to the point that US citizens are drafted to perform farm labor in migrant labor camps? Is it humane to expect citizens of advanced capitalist economies like the US to perform farm labor or should US citizens be entitled to having this labor performed for them by non-citizen migrants?

BY the way, this IS the topic, kids. Remember that? Good old fashioned thing that is the back bone of the USMB? TOPICS? So let's don't get nasty and personal. Besides, that is what we are supposed to do, address topics, not get nasty and personal. But some of you make me sooooo mad. Bye.

 

[Nutz]

Feel better now? Self righteous jerk. I do NOT want to get into this with you. Ever. Mexicans have hurt me, not negotiable or debatable. Racism, or bigotry, that is really a matter of opinion. Prove it, jerk. I mean, can you? In a court of law, with facts? Because I am really tired of your or any one's else's allegations. PROVE IT. Or get off the pot. Can you do that?

If it makes a difference, I think you are a racist bigot.

Are you kidding me? If being a pompous ass was a virtue, you would be a saint. First of all, When people use race or ethnicity to avoid being rational & reasonable human beings, I don't find that acceptable. Second of all, you turn around and castigate someone for noticing that moral cowardly sycophantic "hypocrisy", and have the balls to use that same word? Right. That makes me even more cynical and hardened.

Saint Nutz says: Thou heart cannot be more hardened when it is consumed with hate.


Do you have German heritage?

 

[Windship]

I simply understood the point of the question...

No one misunderstood it, champ. You are only here to troll, as usual.

You know?...you make me laugh.
You, without fail, post what you think is substance but its not substance.
Its always an insult followed with more insult and absolutely no fact.
Thats a step up for you, huh?........just sayin'.

 

[Windship]

...in fact...NONE of you traitorous pro illegal immigration posters have NO facts! Just insults.

 

[Windship]

If drafts have been used in the past, why can't they be brought back for something like agricultural service?

Make-pretend is fun! Wheeeeee!!!!!!!

Are you finished degrading this thread yet? Is you belly full of food grown and prepared by people besides you? Are you satisfied with your position of permanent exemption from producing your own food? How does it feel? Like an entitlement well-deserved by your national superiority above those who toil for you?

Another comedian.
I'll tell you what...you split back to meheeco....we can pick our OWN food and I could not care less if it is more expensive...geesh.

 

[Unkotare]

...in fact...NONE of you traitorous pro illegal immigration posters have NO facts! Just insults.

Who here has declared as "pro illegal immigration"?

 

[Windship]

...in fact...NONE of you traitorous pro illegal immigration posters have NO facts! Just insults.

Who here has declared as "pro illegal immigration"?

The words you use make you what you are.

 

[Unkotare]

...in fact...NONE of you traitorous pro illegal immigration posters have NO facts! Just insults.

Who here has declared as "pro illegal immigration"?

The words you use make you what you are.

Then use some words to make yourself someone who answers the fucking question.

 

[priceless]

Are you ready to come back from Imagination Land and start growing up in the real world?

In the real world, democracy is an open discourse where any proposal can be brought to the table to be seriously considered. Only in authoritarian lalaland are ideas pre-emptively dismissed as unrealistic.

It's not like I suggested inviting Martians to fly to Earth and use their flying saucers as tractors. I proposed two options for comparison: 1) allowing non-citizen migrants to perform farm labor for the sake of protecting citizens from being used as agricultural labor 2) drafting citizens to perform such labor when not enough voluntarily solicit for the work.

Both options are reasonably realistic alternatives that would quell critiques of non-citizens performing work illegally.

 

[Unkotare]

Are you ready to come back from Imagination Land and start growing up in the real world?

In the real world, democracy is an open discourse where any proposal can be brought to the table to be seriously considered.

And once on that table you are "open" to being told your notion is idiotic and juvenile. "Discourse" doesn't mean pretending to take every silly bit of bullshit that flits through the empty cavern of your 'mind' seriously just so you can feel good about yourself. Understanding and accepting that is part of growing up, junior.

 

[priceless]

And once on that table you are "open" to being told your notion is idiotic and juvenile. "Discourse" doesn't mean pretending to take every silly bit of bullshit that flits through the empty cavern of your 'mind' seriously just so you can feel good about yourself. Understanding and accepting that is part of growing up, junior.

You haven't provided one shred of reasoning about why anything I've put forth is bad. You just toss around personal insults and pushy assertions about 'reality.'

You have yet to say one thing about agricultural labor, economics, wages for non-citizens vs. citizens, the logistics of using a draft to require citizens to perform labor in markets with insufficient levels of solicitation, etc.

Maybe you're incapable of thinking in real terms so you throw around meta-claims about other posts so you can sound like you have some level of expert judgment when you really wouldn't know where to begin seriously discussing the topic.

 

[Unkotare]

And once on that table you are "open" to being told your notion is idiotic and juvenile. "Discourse" doesn't mean pretending to take every silly bit of bullshit that flits through the empty cavern of your 'mind' seriously just so you can feel good about yourself. Understanding and accepting that is part of growing up, junior.

You haven't provided one shred of reasoning about why anything I've put forth is bad.

I have pointed out the "shred" that your little imagination game involves something that has not happened, is not happening, and we have no reason to believe ever will happen. Grow the fuck up, kid.

 

[MaryL]

Mexicans, can we even dare in a free country, to criticize people that abuse the immigration system because they are...gasp, HISPANIC? Strap on the oxygen tanks. I am doing that because, I am so bad ass, I think immigrants should follow the rules and not sneak in. I am such an iconoclast, I have said that 2000 times already. But apparently, the 24 million illegal aliens from Mexico don't read my hateful racist post. Wow. So it goes. And here I am. stuck with 24 million Hispanic aliens. Poo.

 

[priceless]

I have pointed out the "shred" that your little imagination game involves something that has not happened, is not happening, and we have no reason to believe ever will happen. Grow the fuck up, kid.

See, you did it again. You have nothing to say on the topic so why do you keep posting in this thread?

 

[Unkotare]

I have pointed out the "shred" that your little imagination game involves something that has not happened, is not happening, and we have no reason to believe ever will happen. Grow the fuck up, kid.

See, you did it again. You have nothing to say on the topic so why do you keep posting in this thread?

See, you did it again. You keep insisting your little game of make-believe be taken seriously. You will find the kindred souls you are looking for over on the Conspiracy Theory forum.

 

[priceless]

See, you did it again. You keep insisting your little game of make-believe be taken seriously. You will find the kindred souls you are looking for over on the Conspiracy Theory forum.

Still nothing about economics, non-citizen labor, drafting citizens, or agriculture in your post. Strike two? Care to give it another go?

 

[Unkotare]

See, you did it again. You keep insisting your little game of make-believe be taken seriously. You will find the kindred souls you are looking for over on the Conspiracy Theory forum.

Still nothing about economics, non-citizen labor, drafting citizens, or agriculture in your post. Strike two? Care to give it another go?

Care to pose a grown-up question and not juvenile fantasy?