Rich or poor, who is more likely to be dishonest?

They act on their pathological need to win and their hatred of the loser, after a while it is little more than a very lucrative game. Wall street reflects this casino mentality perfectly.

You should get out of Mommy's basement and meet these "rich people" you so hate

Talk to some local businessmen, tell them your "Theory" and when they done crying from laughing so hard they'll set you straight

I'm sure embezzlement, fraud and tax cheating is just as prevalent around here as anywhere, not like they are going to admit it. You are talking to no spring chicken here, I know people are more likely to rob you with a contract than a gun and that's a fact.

No, really, put down the Xbox and go out and meet some local store owner and see if he "act on their pathological need to win and their hatred of the loser, after a while it is little more than a very lucrative game"

You might find it illuminating.

Then you go back to Call of Duty XIV
 
I would venture to guess that you'll find plenty of dishonesty at both sides of the spectrum. But I would judge a poor person stealing to provide for family a lot less harsh that a wealthy person stealing for God knows what.

But rightwinger posted something to ponder.....

Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger
We lose more tax dollars from tax cheats than welfare cheats

I wonder if anyone ever compared the two? :eusa_think:

I don't really think that's a fair comparison. If one rich guy cheats the tax system that has as much impact as maybe hundreds, thousands or millions cheating the welfare system.

That's apples and oranges to me, can't blame a group of ppl on the actions of the guy in my scenario.

Maybe. But a comparison might be good to determine which costs the taxpayers more. I have to get off here but I may try and do that later....
 
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20 years ago I was driving in an office park. I was headed down a 2 lane road. An older beat up work truck pulled out in front of me and I swerved to avoid hitting it. My car hit the curb and dented one of my wheels. The vehicle was less than 6 months old. The truck was filled with Mexicans that had been pouring concrete and the driver spoke broken English. We exchanged insurance cards as there was no contact between vehicles and no injuries. His sister called me that night and she spoke good English. Their insurance carrier called me the next day and stated that the driver of the truck admitted through his sister that he had in fact pulled out in front of me without looking. They paid my $424 claim immediately.
An American would have called a TV lawyer, faked an injury and tried to put me at fault with the assistance of a team of TV lawyers after they found out how much coverage I have.
 
The poor have the most to gain? You mean individually? For a poor person to steal $10,000 he would have to rob a bank, all a rich person would have to do is go to his job at the bank. White collar crime is pretty damned destructive, widespread, and relatively safe.


The fact that you believe stealing is part of a banker's job only shows how incredibly stupid you are.
 
Apparently, according to these studies, the answer is rich folk:

Vitals - Rich people more likely to cheat, behave badly, research finds

In a series of experiments, University of California at Berkeley researchers showed again and again that upper-class individuals were more prone to unethical behavior than people from more deprived backgrounds, according to the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Fascinating.

Based upon my personal experiences, I have seen no difference in the rich or the poor, when it comes to integrity.

Me neither, in the sense that I've never encountered a definitive consistency of dis/honesty based on income or personal wealth. I think integrity's rooted in your upbringing as opposed to how much you're worth.
 
I'd agree with that, but the rich have the ability to steal more and the resources to lessen the punishment when caught. Steal a thousand; go to jail. Steal a billion; get a bail out.

Steal 4 $trillion? Get reelected to the Presidency.
 
I'd agree with that, but the rich have the ability to steal more and the resources to lessen the punishment when caught. Steal a thousand; go to jail. Steal a billion; get a bail out.

Steal 4 $trillion? Get reelected to the Presidency.
While waging Class warfare on the very people whom elected you that you deem stupid as dirt.

That would be the O.
 
It's nothing more than the results of two (quite limited) experiments. It provides no hard evidence... just anecdotal findings.

What I do find interesting are the following:

1. That the media either does not understand how to present research findings from social science issues. Or.... perhaps they deliberately misrepresent the findings in order to further a political agenda.

2. That the OP seems incapable of reading the actual research and forming an honest opinion.

No wonder there are so many idiots.... they insist on allowing the media to provide them with their 'facts'.

Holy shit.

All I did was post the results of a study, preceded by the word "apparently", indicating the results simply suggested a conclusion.

My intent in doing so was to invite a conversation on the subject.

I didn't express an "honest opinion", because I didn't express ANY opinion.

and you start in with all kinds of personal attacks against me?

What the hell?
 
Apparently, according to these studies, the answer is rich folk:

Vitals - Rich people more likely to cheat, behave badly, research finds

In a series of experiments, University of California at Berkeley researchers showed again and again that upper-class individuals were more prone to unethical behavior than people from more deprived backgrounds, according to the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Fascinating.

Based upon my personal experiences, I have seen no difference in the rich or the poor, when it comes to integrity.



Very well stated!!! A person either has integrity or they don't. Either they are honest or they are not. There is good and bad in everything.
 

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