Discussion in 'Environment' started by Old Rocks, Aug 21, 2018.
How we can restore our forests to be more fire resistant.
Go check fires in the 1800's...........make some of the California fires we have seen recently look like boy scout campfires!. I've posted up that link too many times to bother anymore!
Dumb fuck, in the 19th century we did not have a landscape cut up by manmade firebreaks, freeways, farms, ect. We did not have access to the firefighting tools of today. No fire engines, no organized wild firefighting units, no aircraft to drop thousands of tons of retardant. However, had you actually taken the time to view the lecture, you might have learned something. That is what is so pathetic about you deniers. You never, ever read or view anything other than the first sentence. One would think your literacy level is the same as the clown in the White House.
Fuel reduction is a complicated and difficult business. It has to be kept up for years, until some trees grow big. The goal is a mature forest that shades undergrowth and resists crown fires
Thus, the Skook/Republican-endorsed plan of cutting down all the large trees is especially stupid. The large trees are what you want to leave intact. Cutting them down and leaving slash piles makes the land more fire-prone.
But why then are all the illiterate dumb fucks winning? You yahoo's have been on this forest fire crap for years now.....as another way of throwing bombs about climate change. But nobody is paying attention.....which means there must be alot of dumb fucks out there all across the country.
Or maybe....they all just think you climate guys get a bit too hysterical about st00pid stuff that is on the radar of very few! Very few. Show me the evidence the public embraces your head exploding emotions? You can opine about the seriousness of the climate change/forest fire link until the cows come home and do it with intellectual bravado 8 ways to Sunday but if it falls on deaf ears, you lose!!
Yeah, it's really easy, don't allow the "environmentalists" to prevent proper forest management.
No, you know what else we didn't have? Idiotic environmentalists preventing forests from being managed properly. We didn't have dumbfucks, like you, bleating about sustainability while ensuring the absolute destruction of the forests when the fires do come.
Clear cutting is actually a good idea with certain tree species, since SHADE INTOLERANT trees like Douglas Fir will not regrow well if at all in selective cutting areas due to lack of sunshine. Shade tolerant trees like Hemlock, MUST be selectively cut or they will eventually vanish from the area to a more shade intolerant tree species. That is one of the main factors in clearcutting or selective cutting decision, which is also dependent on degree of slope, watershed effects and so on.
Clearcutting is a valid logging practice on certain tree species because of their shade intolerance, while Selective cutting is also valid as well due to shade tolerance of certain tree species. Forested areas that are owned by private companies are often better managed than Federally managed lands, because they plant a lot of YOUNG trees that have much greater vigor to fight diseases which old growth usually lack, which is one reason why there are so many bug infestations on Federally managed lands. They don't cut down weak old trees much, fight fires too much or fail to do managed fires to weed them out., therefore it becomes a foothold for bug infestations.
Slash piles are there in part because of environmentalists demanding ground cover, which is silly since the natural forest have little such feature, they are man made that contributes to bigger fires.
I watched all of it. @ the 33:00 time mark he states:
We live in landscapes that were continuously shaped by fire
Historical fire suppression & exclusion + numerous other factors have created high fuel loads, a fire deficit in forests & high contagion crown fire behavior
And you say this was the reason for severe forest fires in the 19th century:
Dumb fuck,in the 19th century we did not have a landscape cut up by manmade firebreaks, freeways, farms, ect. We did not have access to the firefighting tools of today. No fire engines, no organized wild firefighting units, no aircraft to drop thousands of tons of retardant.
Which is the opposite of what he said is the main cause and that makes either him or you a "dumb fuck"
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