Responsibility VS freedom

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    Stolen Valor Act deemed unconstitutional

    By Gary Harmon
    Wednesday, August 18, 2010

    U.S. Rep. John Salazar’s Stolen Valor Act, aimed at preventing people from fraudulently claiming to be war heroes, was declared unconstitutional Wednesday by an appellate panel in California.


    Stolen Valor Act deemed unconstitutional | GJSentinel.com


    I think we as a people have a responsibility to our veterans and ourselves hold on to some degree of virtue.
    We owe the veterans to no dilute or bring doubt to their sacrifice so that some scumbag can leverage respect from theft.
    So yeah go ahead say" Im willing to shred the constitution" limiting the freedom of thieves and scumbags.

    Fuck you too.
     
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    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. :::John Adams

    We have fallen so far away from simple virtues that greater freedoms are afforded to those who have no virtues, at the cost of those who have the greatest virtues and defend our freedom.

    Disgusting.
     
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    Another headshaker decision by our government
     
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    It was made for freedom of speech (of the don't shout fire in a crowded theater kind) and safety from dangerous people as well. I could understand allowing Muslims to live in US but I can't understand why the government never keeps an eye on what goes in every Mosque and arrests the radical preachers or at least sends them for psychological help. No one should be allowed to preach death to the Jews or death to America anywhere, least of all in the US because it is encouraging people to do such, to kill the Jews and kill American's and destroy the American state, as well as Israel.
     
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    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. :::John Adams

    as an atheist I certainly take exception to THAT comment.

    our constitution is for EVERYONE, even those of us who don't believe in gods or religions.
     
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    You don't need to be religious to be moral, case closed.
     
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    He is saying freedoms will be abused by those who cannot be self governed through some infrastructure, he calls that infrastructure moral and religious. You call it something else .
    I think it is revolting that there is no way to stop people from the appropriation other peoples sacrifice for there own greed.
     
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    This is out of the 9th Circuit, right? They get overturned a lot.

    I'm pretty sure the U.S. Supreme Court has said on more than one occasion that a knowingly-false statement doesn't have 1st Amendment protection. So if the Supreme Court grants cert., look to see this decision overturned.
     
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    Instead of being immature, try legal reasoning and argument.

    I support the intent of the law, but will never support an unconstitutional law. Why? Because that is what vets supposedly fought for, the Constitution, not benefits.

    At certain points most veterans have never fought an ant let alone an enemy, so cut the emotional argument. But all veterans do take an oath...

    do you know what that oath says?

    :eusa_whistle:
     
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    Assuming the law is unconstitutional, I would agree with you. But I'm not convinced that this one is.
     

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