Republicans trying to push us into worse war than Iraq

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    If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

    Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

    He let Bin Laden go so Bin Laden could continue to grow al Qaeda and spread their terror across the globe.

    This explosion of anti American sentiment is the result of the unlawful invasion of Iraq and the decade long war in Afghanistan.

    And look at what has Obama has been doing to Iran. The strongest sanctions even many Republicans have said they have ever seen. And Obama set back their nuclear program years with computer viruses. What an incredibly smart covert attack. I wonder how many Republicans say that's Bush's idea?

    Have you noticed how many successes the Bush administration has had since Obama came into office? Because Republicans feel it has to be Bush, it can't be Obama.

    And now we have Israel trying to set our foreign policy and Republicans agreeing? How can that not be insane? Tiny Israel trying to force American foreign policy?

    And look at where we are at. Two unpaid for wars. Trillions in debt. A worn out and undermanned military. It's one thing to get middle class and poor children to go to war when they think they are protecting the country, but another to get them to join for a "war of choice". And Mitt's 5 sons didn't join before, they certainly won't join now. America would never agree to a draft, not now. Not for this. So where do more troops come from?

    And with Republicans refusing a tax hike on the wealthy, who pays for it?

    This is the problem when Republicans chant "War War War", they don't see beyond the fun and excitement of those first exploding bombs.

    "We Won"
    "Mission Accomplished"
     
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    Talking tough just to get elected or reelected doesn't impress most people.

    Its like a game of chess, think long term strategy, position and save your best pieces to win the game.
     
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    Really?

    I just filled up. $56.00

    Is Bush using all the oil he invaded for personally?

    Fucking imbecile.
     
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    Now Warts, you can blame the worldwide thirst for petroleum products for that. A free market, you know. After all, we are exporting gasoline and diesel by the tanker load, and if you don't want to pay that price, someone in Asia or South America does.
     
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    Yo Vern, your boy Obama has been the Prez for 3 years, we are still in the area and he is expanding the War to Pakistan.


    Wrong again. We invaded Iraq in order to obey the zionists command:


    Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser


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    Bush gave us many revolving reasons why they attacked Iraq
     
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    You never stop being an idiot, you are consistant. And you attack other people's sources, wtf is this source? Hackhota is a tin foil hatter and a truther as well, you are a tool.
     
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    1. Saddam Hussein and the threat he posed to the Persian Gulf and the rest of the planet is something seperate from Afghanistan and terrorism that had to be dealt with.

    2. The United States and the world are dependent on Persian Gulf oil, not just for supply, but more importantly because of the impact Persian Gulf oil has on the global market price of oil.

    3. This is why the United States went to war against Saddam in 1991 after his invasion of Kuwait. The oil in Saudi Arabia must be protected from siezure and or sabotage by hostile forces like Saddam because of the impact such siezure and sabotage would have on global energy prices and then the global economy.

    4. The United States and its allies successfully removed Saddam from Kuwait in 1991 and instead of marching to Baghdad decided on the cheaper option of containing Saddam instead of removing him with the belief that his defeat in the 1991 Gulf War and the ensuing containment regime would force his collapse within 5 years.

    5. Unfortunately, Saddam did not collapse. The sanctions and weapons embargo, key elements of the containment regime, were able to be maintained for several years. But starting in 1998, the containment regime around Saddam started to fall apart.

    6. Because of various countries own economic interest. Several of Iraq's neighbors and even members of the UN Security Council began to violate the sanctions put in place to try and keep Saddam contained.

    7. UN Weapons inspectors were thrown out of Iraq in 1998, and large scale bombing by the United States during the Clinton Administration failed to bring their return to the country.

    8. By the year 2000, Saddam was successfully selling oil through the black market and starting to make billions. Sanctions and the weapons embargo kept on eroding.

    9. Without the sanctions and weapons embargo, the containment regime had essentially collapsed by 2002. Without containment the only other option for dealing with Saddam and protecting the vital oil supply of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, was regime change.

    10. This is why removing Saddam in 2003 was a necessity, independent of thoughts about terrorism or even his alledged progress or lack there of when it came to renewing and building WMD.

    Saddam had to be removed although for different reasons than why Al Quada and the Taliban had to be removed from Afghanistan. Both wars were necessary and the United States did not have the luxury of prosecuting one while waiting to engage in the other. The real world requires one to deal with threats to one's security simultanously. You can't carefully handle one threat at a time. Such luxury's don't exist in the real world.
     

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