Republicans should refuse stimulus money

[Chris]

i answered that already, dipshit.

I know you will do the right thing and give back the money.

Your boys voted against it, so they won't take the money either.

You are a partisan hack and fucking moron.

when bush cut taxes it was a sin, now the Messiah does it and it's the greatest idea ever.

No, the greatest idea ever would be to cut taxes for the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.

 

[Harry Dresden]

How do you know Chris is a tool?

1- Read his posts
2- Read his posts
3- The moron picks out of all the bonds, Pierce Brosnan as his avatar when he was one of the worst 007's of all time. Sean Connery, you fool
4- Read his posts

i dont know....i like this new guy....Daniel Craig

 

[Charles_Main]

I know you will do the right thing and give back the money.

Your boys voted against it, so they won't take the money either.

You are a partisan hack and fucking moron.

when bush cut taxes it was a sin, now the Messiah does it and it's the greatest idea ever.

No, the greatest idea ever would be to cut taxes for the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.

yeah because it's not like the top 5% of wage earners don't already pay 75% of the tax load.

Freaking ignorant Socialist.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

You are giving your tax cut back, right?

i answered that already, dipshit.

So you are giving it back because it's such a bad idea, right?

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

 

[Munin]

We will never know how bad it would, or would not have gotten with out this bill.

My guess is this bill will have little positive effect over all, and long term negative effects.

I have stated my plan over and over.

Step one reform the tax code completely. Something along the lines of a flat tax.
Institute a small federal sales tax, which can only be used to pay down debt, or fill budget gaps.

go through the entire budget and SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, and eliminate wasteful spending. A balanced Budget would go along way to relieve some of the pressures that are causing this mess in the first place.

I have said repeatedly if you are going to spend 800 Billion the best way to use it IMO would be to simple give 2700 dollars to every man woman and child in the Country. With this bill alone you could give the average family of 4 over 10,000 dollars. Can anyone tell me that would not simulate the economy?

What we need to stop doing is acting like there are things we can not let fail. the Car companies for example. Many economist will tell you that chapter 11 Bankruptcy is the best way to go. It may be that we need to let one of them fail completely. After all if one of the big 3 failed, the other 2 would gain much of its market share and be that much more viable because of it. The same holds true in the banking world.

What we need to do is realize that Government is not the best solution to most problems. Government after all in large part caused this problems in the first place.

That is the problem with this bill. It was rushed through and passed, and all along we were told it was this bill or nothing, This bill or disaster. All the while people like me and many more were saying there are other alternatives to this bill that will work better.

The problem with this bill is trying to call it a stimulus package, and selling it as an answer to our immediate problems. It does not contain enough stimulative aspects, and to many of them will not even go into effect for month or years to come. They are trying to call things like money to sure up Medicaid, and Other social Welfare programs a stimulus.

You can argue if these things are needed or not, but trying to call them a stimulus is a joke.

What about modernizing the infrastructure? The infrastructure is from just after WWII, don't you think it would be wise to repair that? Some bridges are now older then the time they were made to last.

How about finding out what happened to all the gasoline tax money and toll money collected to fix those things. ever think about that? whose pockets got lined?

Good point, but we re getting nowhere with this (this is a bipartisan screwup: we can't vote them away). Maybe it is because people vote against such projects and politicians get the impression that people want to have that money used for other things.

 

[Chris]

You are a partisan hack and fucking moron.

when bush cut taxes it was a sin, now the Messiah does it and it's the greatest idea ever.

No, the greatest idea ever would be to cut taxes for the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.

yeah because it's not like the top 5% of wage earners don't already pay 75% of the tax load.

Freaking ignorant Socialist.

Link?

 

[Chris]

i answered that already, dipshit.

So you are giving it back because it's such a bad idea, right?

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

But since Republicans believe it is a bad idea, they should give the money back to reduce the deficit and inflation, shouldn't they?

 

[Meister]

So you are giving it back because it's such a bad idea, right?

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

But since Republicans believe it is a bad idea, they should give the money back to reduce the deficit and inflation, shouldn't they?

Chris, you still don't get it....do ya? That's because your a MORON.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

So you are giving it back because it's such a bad idea, right?

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

But since Republicans believe it is a bad idea, they should give the money back to reduce the deficit and inflation, shouldn't they?

Why should Republicans donate their money for Democrats to use?

 

[driveby]

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

But since Republicans believe it is a bad idea, they should give the money back to reduce the deficit and inflation, shouldn't they?

Why should Republicans donate their money for Democrats to use?

Because they won, get over it .....

 

[Meister]

OH BROTHER When will the dumbacrats get over it?

 

[driveby]

sarcasm brutha .......

 

[WillowTree]

What about modernizing the infrastructure? The infrastructure is from just after WWII, don't you think it would be wise to repair that? Some bridges are now older then the time they were made to last.

How about finding out what happened to all the gasoline tax money and toll money collected to fix those things. ever think about that? whose pockets got lined?

Good point, but we re getting nowhere with this (this is a bipartisan screwup: we can't vote them away). Maybe it is because people vote against such projects and politicians get the impression that people want to have that money used for other things.

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

 

[Care4all]

You are a partisan hack and fucking moron.

when bush cut taxes it was a sin, now the Messiah does it and it's the greatest idea ever.

No, the greatest idea ever would be to cut taxes for the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.

yeah because it's not like the top 5% of wage earners don't already pay 75% of the tax load.

Freaking ignorant Socialist.

They don't pay 75% of this country's TAX LOAD, they pay 75% of this country's INCOME TAXES, which COVER ONLY 1/3 of the cost of our yearly Budget....even less than that now that we are borrowing so much that these dudes paying the 75% aren't having to pay at the moment... income taxes collected may actually only pay 25% or our yearly spending pretty soon.

 

[Munin]

How about finding out what happened to all the gasoline tax money and toll money collected to fix those things. ever think about that? whose pockets got lined?

Good point, but we re getting nowhere with this (this is a bipartisan screwup: we can't vote them away). Maybe it is because people vote against such projects and politicians get the impression that people want to have that money used for other things.

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

I don't know perfectly what the justification for every tax is, I always assumed that taxes are what you pay when you use investments (from the past & for the future) made for the community. Paying back previous investments perhaps? It is clear however that the taxes that are paid for roads do not end up in one funds which is supposed to be used to repair roads.

Gasoline taxes have nothing to do with road taxes. Every country pays gasoline taxes, it is like every other product (something you d buy in a supermarket is also taxed and it isn't with the primary purpose to repair roads either) that gets taxed.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Good point, but we re getting nowhere with this (this is a bipartisan screwup: we can't vote them away). Maybe it is because people vote against such projects and politicians get the impression that people want to have that money used for other things.

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

I don't know perfectly what the justification for every tax is, I always assumed that taxes are what you pay when you use investments (from the past & for the future) made for the community. Paying back previous investments perhaps? It is clear however that the taxes that are paid for roads do not end up in one funds which is supposed to be used to repair roads.

Gasoline taxes have nothing to do with road taxes. Every country pays gasoline taxes, it is like every other product (something you d buy in a supermarket is also taxed and it isn't with the primary purpose to repair roads either) that gets taxed.

LOL... Well sure.. because taxes on Gasloine are just 'texes' and there's no reason to believe that TXES WHICH WERE ARGUED WOULD SERVICE THE ROADS ON WHICH THE CARS AND TARUCKS WHICH USE THOSE ROADS... Just as there is no reason to believe that the 'stimulous Tax will be used to stimulate the economy, as IT has been sold...

They're liars... what more do you need to know?

They're tyrants who believe that because you and I live here we need to forfiet the product of our labor to pay them for the servicdes they provide, which they erroneously believe make it possible for us to produce...

they're socialists... and the longer you lend them credence and power the worse things will get...

 

[Xenophon]

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

NY is fifteen BILLION in the red.

So what did the democratic gov due?

Asked state workers to take a 3% paycut...

And gave his STAFF 40% raises.

 

[Chris]

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

NY is fifteen BILLION in the red.

So what did the democratic gov due?

Asked state workers to take a 3% paycut...

And gave his STAFF 40% raises.

That's because he couldn't read the bill his staff gave him to sign.

 

[elvis]

So you are giving it back because it's such a bad idea, right?

Again, do you or do you not acknowledge the fact that Republicans will still be taxed and that their currency will lose value through inflation whether they receive any of the benefits or not? If they're still going to have to pay for it and are still losing the value of their money then they have the same rights to what's offered by the spending package as the Democrats do.

But since Republicans believe it is a bad idea, they should give the money back to reduce the deficit and inflation, shouldn't they?

It IS a bad idea, and no we are not going to refuse it. If we have to suffer in the future because of thie Pelosi Pork bill, we are going to reap the fucking benefits now ass clown.

 

[WillowTree]

No I'm serious.. take a look at New York... a 62.9 cent per gallon gasoline tax??? there should not be a freaking road or bridge in the entire freaking state that needs repairing.




http://web.syr.edu/~jvstirli/files/Breakdown of New York State Gasoline Tax Rates.pdf

NY is fifteen BILLION in the red.

So what did the democratic gov due?

Asked state workers to take a 3% paycut...

And gave his STAFF 40% raises.

well that makes a lot of sense dosen't? does if you are a libwal I guess. so we have NY Caleeefornia and Kansas,, all bastions of libwalism gone bankrupt,, if that dosen't fortell our future under the idiot king I don't know what does.