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Sure, Pattycake, sure. I see from your avatar what kind of children you send to school.
I can tell from your abject stupidity what kind of children you send to school.
I doubt he's ever had the opportunity to breed.
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Sure, Pattycake, sure. I see from your avatar what kind of children you send to school.
I can tell from your abject stupidity what kind of children you send to school.
In Kentucky where they have cut education and medicare:
$43 million tax break approved for Ark Encounter theme park
In New Jersey where Christie is decimating School funding:
Christie Bails Out American Dream Mall With $400 Million
In Ohio where Gov Kasich is cutting education and children's health:
Gaming Expert to Make $15 Million from State
In Texas where they are dealing with a record budget deficit and potentially laying of thousands and thousands of teachers:
Texas Taxpayers Finance Formula One Auto Races as Schools Dismiss Teachers
Republicans are showing us time and time again that they don't give a tinker's damn about the American people and only care about furthering corporate interests (and padding their own pockets)
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Indeed. It indicates that conservatives in particular and the public who vote for rightists in general place very little value in education.
It will eventually be our undoing.
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Indeed. It indicates that conservatives in particular and the public who vote for rightists in general place very little value in education.
It will eventually be our undoing.
We used to do it like Finland. We used to not have such a drastic disparity between, say, what a lawyer makes and what a teacher makes. Finland recruits the TOP graduates to become teachers and PAYS them accordingly. We don't.
You're delusional. In the past teachers made even less than they do now.
Liberal ideology is based mostly on a fantastical understanding of the past.
In Kentucky where they have cut education and medicare:
$43 million tax break approved for Ark Encounter theme park
In New Jersey where Christie is decimating School funding:
Christie Bails Out American Dream Mall With $400 Million
In Ohio where Gov Kasich is cutting education and children's health:
Gaming Expert to Make $15 Million from State
In Texas where they are dealing with a record budget deficit and potentially laying of thousands and thousands of teachers:
Texas Taxpayers Finance Formula One Auto Races as Schools Dismiss Teachers
Republicans are showing us time and time again that they don't give a tinker's damn about the American people and only care about furthering corporate interests (and padding their own pockets)
I'm not reading this entire thread but would like to point out to RDean junior here that BOTH parties have their pet projects that they wish to fund at the expense of other worthy causes. Why s/he feels the need to pretend like it is only party is beyond me.
The United States of America spends more on public education than any other nation in the world, with poor results to show for it. Schools are awash in cash; they just don't spend it on the classroom.
Furthermore, the biggest problem with public education in this country is not and never has been money. It's cultural.
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Ever see "Waiting for Superman"? Too many union teachers are bad and need to be laid off. We're wasting way too much money on education and getting a poor return, look at the US compared to other countries' education systems as proof. The US is about 23rd and dropping. Stop wasting our money.
As for the GOP, they suck about as much as the dems, both parties protect their cash cows. Remember how the economy got fucked-up? The dems cash cows' Fannie & Freddie were at fault.
Perhaps this bitterness of yours regarding public school education is because you feel your own was inadequate? Read what I wrote again...carefully this time. Sound out each word.
I said that there did not used to be such a huge disparity in what a lawyer is paid and what a teacher is paid.
For example, in 1970, the initial pay gap between a lawyer starting at a good law firm and a teacher at a public school was about $2,000. Today, it's more than $100,000.
Link: Closing the talent gap: Attracting and retaining top third graduates to a career in teaching
In Kentucky where they have cut education and medicare:
$43 million tax break approved for Ark Encounter theme park
In New Jersey where Christie is decimating School funding:
Christie Bails Out American Dream Mall With $400 Million
In Ohio where Gov Kasich is cutting education and children's health:
Gaming Expert to Make $15 Million from State
In Texas where they are dealing with a record budget deficit and potentially laying of thousands and thousands of teachers:
Texas Taxpayers Finance Formula One Auto Races as Schools Dismiss Teachers
Republicans are showing us time and time again that they don't give a tinker's damn about the American people and only care about furthering corporate interests (and padding their own pockets)
I'm not reading this entire thread but would like to point out to RDean junior here that BOTH parties have their pet projects that they wish to fund at the expense of other worthy causes. Why s/he feels the need to pretend like it is only party is beyond me.
They are bogus because YOU say they are? Since we have already established a reading comprehension issue with you, I'm supposed to just believe YOU when you say "the numbers are bogus". Do you have ANYTHING that would counter the provided GOVERNMENT study? Did you even LOOK at the study?Perhaps this bitterness of yours regarding public school education is because you feel your own was inadequate? Read what I wrote again...carefully this time. Sound out each word.
I said that there did not used to be such a huge disparity in what a lawyer is paid and what a teacher is paid.
For example, in 1970, the initial pay gap between a lawyer starting at a good law firm and a teacher at a public school was about $2,000. Today, it's more than $100,000.
Link: Closing the talent gap: Attracting and retaining top third graduates to a career in teaching
ROFL! Your numbers are bogus. Furthermore, if you go back a little further, then lawyers made many orders of magnitude more than school teachers. Additionally, 1970 was about the low point in SAT scores. That's hardly a recommendation for increasing teacher salaries.
The problem with government schools isn't attracting competent people. The problem is getting rid of the ones who turn out to be duds. They can't even get rid of child-molesters, let alone ordinary incompetence.
The United States of America spends more on public education than any other nation in the world, with poor results to show for it. Schools are awash in cash; they just don't spend it on the classroom.
Furthermore, the biggest problem with public education in this country is not and never has been money. It's cultural.
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Ever see "Waiting for Superman"? Too many union teachers are bad and need to be laid off. We're wasting way too much money on education and getting a poor return, look at the US compared to other countries' education systems as proof. The US is about 23rd and dropping. Stop wasting our money.
As for the GOP, they suck about as much as the dems, both parties protect their cash cows. Remember how the economy got fucked-up? The dems cash cows' Fannie & Freddie were at fault.
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Indeed. It indicates that conservatives in particular and the public who vote for rightists in general place very little value in education.
It will eventually be our undoing.
As a conservative who has read a few of your posts on this board I would compare my educational levels to yours any day bub.
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Actually, the best way to fix the problem is to fire all the teachers and give every parent a voucher. Government schools will always be disasters. They are run for the benefit of teachers, not students and parents.
Conservative opposition to public schools has nothing to do with a concern for education. Its predicated upon conservative dogma that everything including education should be subjected to a free market paradigm. The quality of ones education is based on the quality of income: the better ones income, the better ones education.
Indeed, the right envisions a world where education is a privilege, not a right; those who are financially successful can afford the privilege of education and can afford to send their children to a private school. Children of families who cant afford to send them to school receive no education, regardless of the childs abilities.
Per conservative Utopian dogma, faced with this horrendous prospect, individuals will work harder and/or will refrain from having children; the disincentive of public education is thus eradicated.
Needless to say this dogma is reactionary, Medieval, and if ever implemented will lead to the destruction of the American Republic.
In Kentucky where they have cut education and medicare:
$43 million tax break approved for Ark Encounter theme park
In New Jersey where Christie is decimating School funding:
Christie Bails Out American Dream Mall With $400 Million
In Ohio where Gov Kasich is cutting education and children's health:
Gaming Expert to Make $15 Million from State
In Texas where they are dealing with a record budget deficit and potentially laying of thousands and thousands of teachers:
Texas Taxpayers Finance Formula One Auto Races as Schools Dismiss Teachers
Republicans are showing us time and time again that they don't give a tinker's damn about the American people and only care about furthering corporate interests (and padding their own pockets)
In Kentucky where they have cut education and medicare:
$43 million tax break approved for Ark Encounter theme park
In New Jersey where Christie is decimating School funding:
Christie Bails Out American Dream Mall With $400 Million
In Ohio where Gov Kasich is cutting education and children's health:
Gaming Expert to Make $15 Million from State
In Texas where they are dealing with a record budget deficit and potentially laying of thousands and thousands of teachers:
Texas Taxpayers Finance Formula One Auto Races as Schools Dismiss Teachers
Republicans are showing us time and time again that they don't give a tinker's damn about the American people and only care about furthering corporate interests (and padding their own pockets)
The United States of America spends more on public education than any other nation in the world, with poor results to show for it. Schools are awash in cash; they just don't spend it on the classroom.
Furthermore, the biggest problem with public education in this country is not and never has been money. It's cultural.
By GDP, we rank #38. You cannot compare our spending with another nations on direct dollar basis, because of the differance in what we have and what things cost here.
The reality is, by what we are capable of doing, we spend damned little on education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP)
Laying off teachers and increasing class sizes are a stupid way to fix the problem.
Ever see "Waiting for Superman"? Too many union teachers are bad and need to be laid off. We're wasting way too much money on education and getting a poor return, look at the US compared to other countries' education systems as proof. The US is about 23rd and dropping. Stop wasting our money.
As for the GOP, they suck about as much as the dems, both parties protect their cash cows. Remember how the economy got fucked-up? The dems cash cows' Fannie & Freddie were at fault.
Sorry, but I have to disagree. One of the top countries in education is more union oriented than we in the US could even think of being.
How Finland Reached the Top of the Educational Rankings
Oh, and 95% of Finland's teachers belong to a union...