Republicans create an art form out of beating a dead horse

[billyerock1991]

A waste of time to talk to a sheep, they cant understand anything much less national security issues. Gen David Patreus share the documents he took with an officer of the National Guard that had sufficient security clearance to view that level of document BUT was not authorized within the related group of individuals that were allowed to view them. Clinton shared the documents on her server with many levels of people including her lawyers who were outside BOTH the group and security level that was required to view even "sensitive documents'. The FBI director did not say she did not commit the crime, he said that the FOR prosecution precedent set for the LAW she broke was only met by intentional violation, and he could not be sure IF she was competent enough to knowingly violate the LAW. That is almost verbatim from an RT broadcast, so cry about Fox news NOW.

I don't know where you get your information from but you should stop going there 12icer

Petraeus pleads guilty to misdemeanor charge in plea deal over claims he leaked classified info to mistress
Published March 03, 2015
FoxNews.com

General David Petraeus has pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge in connection to his handling of classified material -- striking a plea deal with the government that avoids an embarrassing trial and that will likely keep him out of prison over whether he leaked private information to his mistress when he headed up the CIA.

Federal prosecutors will ask the judge for two years of probation for Petraeus.

The criminal complaint, filed Tuesday in the United States District Court for the Western District of North Carolina’s Charlotte Division, charges Petraeus with one count of unauthorized removal and retention of classified material.

The plea deal marks a spectacular fall for the retired four-star general, who was once considered a possible presidential or vice presidential candidate for the United States.

Petraeus’ mistress, Paula Broadwell, is a former Army Reserve officer who had an affair with Petraeus in 2011, when she interviewed him for a biography she was writing on him titled, “All In: The Education of General David Petraeus.”

Petraeus resigned from his post at the head of the CIA in 2012.

Under the plea agreement, prosecutors recommended two years of probation and no prison time. But the judge who hears the plea is not bound by that recommendation. No immediate date was set for Petraeus to enter the plea.

Prosecutors said that while Broadwell was writing her book, Petraeus gave her binders of classified material containing, among other information, his daily schedule and notes about his discussions with President Obama.

Those binders, known was "black books," were seized by the FBI in a search of Petraeus' home. Petraeus lied to FBI agents about providing them to Broadwell and said he never gave her classified material, according to court documents.

Petraeus' lawyers, David Kendall and Robert Barnett in Washington, declined to comment. Her lawyer, Robert Muse of Washington, said he had no comment.

Petraeus admitted having an affair with Broadwell when he resigned as CIA director in November 2012. Both have publicly apologized and said their romantic relationship began only after he had retired from the military.

The former general retained the black books in his home even after he left the Defense Department. In 2011, he delivered them to a home in Washington where Broadwell was staying, according to court papers.

Petraeus left the books with her so she could use them as source material for the biography on him that she published in 2012, prosecutors said. Days later, Petraeus brought the books back to his home in Arlington, Virginia.

He held the CIA post less than a year, not long enough to make a significant mark on the spy agency. The core of his identity has been a military man.

A Ph.D. with a reputation as a thoughtful strategist, Petraeus was brought in by President George W. Bush to command multinational forces in Iraq in 2007, a period when the war began to turn in favor of the U.S., though recent events have proven how ephemeral that was. Petraeus' command coincided with the "surge" of American forces in Iraq and a plan to pay Sunni militias to fight Al Qaeda in Iraq.

With American help, the Sunni tribes were able to push out insurgents and create enough stability for American troops to withdraw in 2011. Those same Sunni areas are now controlled by the Islamic State group, which evolved from the remnants of Al Qaeda after Iraqi's Shiite-led government proved weak.

Petraeus was promoted to commander of U.S. Central Command, which has authority over the Middle East. When Gen. Stanley McCrystal was fired in 2010 by Obama as commander in Afghanistan after his staff made impolitic remarks to a Rolling Stone reporter, Petraeus was brought in to replace him.

He wrote the Army manual on counterinsurgency, a doctrine he embraced throughout his career but which has fallen out of favor in recent years amid the setbacks in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

did ya notice I got this from FOX noise and the point here made none of hillarys people who weren't properly classified personal never saw classified documents ...case in point ... the FBI said nobody at this time has ever seen a classified emails that wast allowed too ... did you notice I pointed out what a liar you are ... thank you very much board

 

[billyerock1991]

A waste of time to talk to a sheep, they cant understand anything much less national security issues. Gen David Patreus share the documents he took with an officer of the National Guard that had sufficient security clearance to view that level of document BUT was not authorized within the related group of individuals that were allowed to view them. Clinton shared the documents on her server with many levels of people including her lawyers who were outside BOTH the group and security level that was required to view even "sensitive documents'. The FBI director did not say she did not commit the crime, he said that the FOR prosecution precedent set for the LAW she broke was only met by intentional violation, and he could not be sure IF she was competent enough to knowingly violate the LAW. That is almost verbatim from an RT broadcast, so cry about Fox news NOW.

and it does appear that it is you thats has the need to say bhaaaaaaaaaaaahuh

 

[Muhammed]

you're watching msnbc? what a loser.

No shit... The Progressive left version of Fox... Also CNN sucks green donkey dick too!

How did Hillary get her classified emails? Did he say? She made statements that were untrue to congress, most people consider that a lie. She didn't turn over the official emails and some were classified. If the GOP is beating a dead horse that makes Hillary the dead horse.

Were they classified at the time or were they later reclassified as classified by President Obama?

Big difference and it would matter...

Who knows? Who cares? The bottom line, coming from the FBI director was that NONE of them had the required heading of "Top Secret, Secret, Confidential or Classified". They weren't marked according to regulations and there were only three and those came from someone else and she didn't send them out.

What is so hard to get?

You are simply lying.

 

[Muhammed]

(f)
Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

Crooked Hillary is guilty. She should be prosecuted

 

[LTCArmyRet]

How do you know they were personal emails?

they were confirmed by her lawyers I clearly said and there was more then one lawyer ... if you think that a lawyer is going to lie in a case like this one and loses their license, your a lot stupider then I first thought you are

Yeah, no lawyer would ever admit their client did something wrong.........Billy the SHEEP!!!!

 

[hadit]

How did Hillary get her classified emails? Did he say? She made statements that were untrue to congress, most people consider that a lie. She didn't turn over the official emails and some were classified. If the GOP is beating a dead horse that makes Hillary the dead horse.

I'm guessong she got her emails the same way I got mine.

What's funny, Colin Powell had an AOL account and after leaving office, terminated his account. His mails could still be out there floating around on some server. And that was why he turned over zero emails. Not one.
Hillary turned over thousands and she's being punished.

He also had an official email account, as opposed to Hillary deliberately trying to avoid oversight. You do know, don't you, that Hillary did NOT turn over many emails that were work related?

You do know that Comey said in the hearing those emails that she did not turn over were nothing nefarious, nothing she was purposely trying to hide (based on the content of the ones he was able to recover from the slack space, when the server was upgraded to a new one).

It goes to her insistence (lie) that she turned over all her work related emails. She simply did not do so.

 

[bodecea]

Is it surprising that the left doesn't want to discuss the laws Hillary broke, her lies upon lies and corruption?

How's those indictments coming along?

 

[hadit]

Because when people lie under oath they should be punished...wait...Bill got away with it so she can to

He didn't totally get away with it. He lost his law license for a while and his handlers had to pay a large fine.

 

[hadit]

Because when people lie under oath they should be punished...wait...Bill got away with it so she can to

no he didn't .. he was never convicted in a court for lying under oath ... can you show one document where he lied under oath ???? can you show one document where Hillary lied under oath ??? no you can't ... you just regurgitate the fox noise mantra

Do a little research next time. Bubba was found in contempt of court for intentionally false testimony, fined $90,000, and had his law license suspended for 5 years (to avoid being disbarred). But you knew that, and intentionally set the bar to "convicted in court".

 

[hadit]

I don't know who that red headed chick is on MSNBC, but she was trying to "get" a congressman on her show and it didn't work. She was badgering him about the NEW GOP investigation on whether Hillary lied about classification of her emails.

She said the FBI director said three emails were marked classified out of the thousands and Hillary said none were and three isn't zero.

So the congressman said -- and then she jumped on him and said the director of the FBI said they were marked.

So then he said -- but then she jumped on him and repeated her previous statement. And that was when he brought up beating a dead horse to a new art form and she looked embarrassed and for once, let him speak.

He said it was a shame they wouldn't play the rest of the clip where the FBI director said three of the mails had a couple of small "c's" buried in the body of the text but there were zero classification headers on any of the documents. None of the emails had classification headers. He said he read the manual on classified material and the manual states the document must have a classification header "Top Secret, Secret, Confidential or Classified". None of her emails did. And the three emails in question were sent to her, not sent out by her.

I'm suspecting that with thousands of emails, she may not had even read them. And so, we have "beating a dead horse".

The congressman said the GOP is so desperate, this is all they have against Hillary and they know it.

It's a shame the news networks go along with GOP conspiracies again and again. She has apologized. She has been exonerated. It's over. So what the GOP does is start another, brand new investigation. Instead of legislating. The job they were actually sent to DC to do.

Actually Hillary's lies just keep on giving.



CLINTON: 'I may have short-circuited' when I said the FBI director said I was 'truthful'

when she said she only used one device that was reference to her server not the number of phones ... the diewctor was referring to her phones but ;ole a;ways ups republicans take a statement out of context and try to say see she lied ... she didn't lie its what your video is doing lying about the facts

A phone isn't a device? LOL.

Billy is diggin a deep ass hole!

LOL ... anything that has a hard drive on itis consider a device and her phones all had hard drives ... a phone is too a device what about what the state department remarks you said nothing about that why that ass hole ???


apple
Apple unveiled its iPhone device (officially the worst-kept secret in the history of technology), we had been giving serious thought to whether such a device should be called a computer or not. By some standards, the iPone is essentially a keyboardless laptop and by others,

Phones don't have hard drives.

 

[rdean]

Because when people lie under oath they should be punished...wait...Bill got away with it so she can to

no he didn't .. he was never convicted in a court for lying under oath ... can you show one document where he lied under oath ???? can you show one document where Hillary lied under oath ??? no you can't ... you just regurgitate the fox noise mantra

Do a little research next time. Bubba was found in contempt of court for intentionally false testimony, fined $90,000, and had his law license suspended for 5 years (to avoid being disbarred). But you knew that, and intentionally set the bar to "convicted in court".

How come the Senate wouldn't touch it. Remember, Republicans were investigating the Clinton for everything from breathing to ass wiping. Eventually they thought they found something. The American people disagreed. Worse, Newt said he was having his own affair at the same time. Ken Starr who is now involved in his own sex scandal, says he regrets what he did to the Clintons.

It was a witch hunt. Just like every witch hunt against the Clintons for the last 30 years.

Now if you really want to investigate criminal activity, perhaps take a second look at Trump.

 

[Iceweasel]

I don't know who that red headed chick is on MSNBC, but she was trying to "get" a congressman on her show and it didn't work. She was badgering him about the NEW GOP investigation on whether Hillary lied about classification of her emails.

She said the FBI director said three emails were marked classified out of the thousands and Hillary said none were and three isn't zero.

So the congressman said -- and then she jumped on him and said the director of the FBI said they were marked.

So then he said -- but then she jumped on him and repeated her previous statement. And that was when he brought up beating a dead horse to a new art form and she looked embarrassed and for once, let him speak.

He said it was a shame they wouldn't play the rest of the clip where the FBI director said three of the mails had a couple of small "c's" buried in the body of the text but there were zero classification headers on any of the documents. None of the emails had classification headers. He said he read the manual on classified material and the manual states the document must have a classification header "Top Secret, Secret, Confidential or Classified". None of her emails did. And the three emails in question were sent to her, not sent out by her.

I'm suspecting that with thousands of emails, she may not had even read them. And so, we have "beating a dead horse".

The congressman said the GOP is so desperate, this is all they have against Hillary and they know it.

It's a shame the news networks go along with GOP conspiracies again and again. She has apologized. She has been exonerated. It's over. So what the GOP does is start another, brand new investigation. Instead of legislating. The job they were actually sent to DC to do.

Actually Hillary's lies just keep on giving.



CLINTON: 'I may have short-circuited' when I said the FBI director said I was 'truthful'

when she said she only used one device that was reference to her server not the number of phones ... the diewctor was referring to her phones but ;ole a;ways ups republicans take a statement out of context and try to say see she lied ... she didn't lie its what your video is doing lying about the facts

A phone isn't a device? LOL.

Billy is diggin a deep ass hole!

LOL ... anything that has a hard drive on itis consider a device and her phones all had hard drives ... a phone is too a device what about what the state department remarks you said nothing about that why that ass hole ???


apple
Apple unveiled its iPhone device (officially the worst-kept secret in the history of technology), we had been giving serious thought to whether such a device should be called a computer or not. By some standards, the iPone is essentially a keyboardless laptop and by others,

Phones don't have hard drives.

The idiot doesn't understand the word 'device'.

 

[hadit]

Because when people lie under oath they should be punished...wait...Bill got away with it so she can to

no he didn't .. he was never convicted in a court for lying under oath ... can you show one document where he lied under oath ???? can you show one document where Hillary lied under oath ??? no you can't ... you just regurgitate the fox noise mantra

Do a little research next time. Bubba was found in contempt of court for intentionally false testimony, fined $90,000, and had his law license suspended for 5 years (to avoid being disbarred). But you knew that, and intentionally set the bar to "convicted in court".

How come the Senate wouldn't touch it. Remember, Republicans were investigating the Clinton for everything from breathing to ass wiping. Eventually they thought they found something. The American people disagreed. Worse, Newt said he was having his own affair at the same time. Ken Starr who is now involved in his own sex scandal, says he regrets what he did to the Clintons.

It was a witch hunt. Just like every witch hunt against the Clintons for the last 30 years.

Now if you really want to investigate criminal activity, perhaps take a second look at Trump.

They didn't touch it because they are politicians, and every move, practically every word, is focus group and poll tested. They knew Bubba was popular and had successfully spun the fantasy that he was just being picked on. The judge in the case wasn't so political, and didn't have a problem properly assessing Bubba's actions.

 

[LTCArmyRet]

Is it surprising that the left doesn't want to discuss the laws Hillary broke, her lies upon lies and corruption?

How's those indictments coming along?

Bill met with the AG and promised her in Hillary's administration if she didn't press charges!

 

[Dana7360]

I don't know who that red headed chick is on MSNBC, but she was trying to "get" a congressman on her show and it didn't work. She was badgering him about the NEW GOP investigation on whether Hillary lied about classification of her emails.

She said the FBI director said three emails were marked classified out of the thousands and Hillary said none were and three isn't zero.

So the congressman said -- and then she jumped on him and said the director of the FBI said they were marked.

So then he said -- but then she jumped on him and repeated her previous statement. And that was when he brought up beating a dead horse to a new art form and she looked embarrassed and for once, let him speak.

He said it was a shame they wouldn't play the rest of the clip where the FBI director said three of the mails had a couple of small "c's" buried in the body of the text but there were zero classification headers on any of the documents. None of the emails had classification headers. He said he read the manual on classified material and the manual states the document must have a classification header "Top Secret, Secret, Confidential or Classified". None of her emails did. And the three emails in question were sent to her, not sent out by her.

I'm suspecting that with thousands of emails, she may not had even read them. And so, we have "beating a dead horse".

The congressman said the GOP is so desperate, this is all they have against Hillary and they know it.

It's a shame the news networks go along with GOP conspiracies again and again. She has apologized. She has been exonerated. It's over. So what the GOP does is start another, brand new investigation. Instead of legislating. The job they were actually sent to DC to do.

Actually Hillary's lies just keep on giving.



CLINTON: 'I may have short-circuited' when I said the FBI director said I was 'truthful'

when she said she only used one device that was reference to her server not the number of phones ... the diewctor was referring to her phones but ;ole a;ways ups republicans take a statement out of context and try to say see she lied ... she didn't lie its what your video is doing lying about the facts

A phone isn't a device? LOL.

Billy is diggin a deep ass hole!

LOL ... anything that has a hard drive on itis consider a device and her phones all had hard drives ... a phone is too a device what about what the state department remarks you said nothing about that why that ass hole ???


apple
Apple unveiled its iPhone device (officially the worst-kept secret in the history of technology), we had been giving serious thought to whether such a device should be called a computer or not. By some standards, the iPone is essentially a keyboardless laptop and by others,

Phones don't have hard drives.

Oh yes they do.

Smart phones and iPhones most certainly have hard drives. They're just a mini computer.

The announcement for hard drives for smart phones came out in 2004. Where have you been?

First Smartphone with a Hard Drive Announced

The iPhone also has a hard drive.

Does the iPhone 4 have a hard drive? - Answers.com

A smart phone or iPhone are just mini computers that make a phone call. If they weren't computers they never would be able to access the internet.

I can't believe you're that uninformed. The least you should have done is some research before you posted that and made a total fool of yourself by showing all intelligent people just how uninformed and down right stupid you are.

 

[Iceweasel]

Actually Hillary's lies just keep on giving.



CLINTON: 'I may have short-circuited' when I said the FBI director said I was 'truthful'

when she said she only used one device that was reference to her server not the number of phones ... the diewctor was referring to her phones but ;ole a;ways ups republicans take a statement out of context and try to say see she lied ... she didn't lie its what your video is doing lying about the facts

A phone isn't a device? LOL.

Billy is diggin a deep ass hole!

LOL ... anything that has a hard drive on itis consider a device and her phones all had hard drives ... a phone is too a device what about what the state department remarks you said nothing about that why that ass hole ???


apple
Apple unveiled its iPhone device (officially the worst-kept secret in the history of technology), we had been giving serious thought to whether such a device should be called a computer or not. By some standards, the iPone is essentially a keyboardless laptop and by others,

Phones don't have hard drives.

Oh yes they do.

Smart phones and iPhones most certainly have hard drives. They're just a mini computer.

The announcement for hard drives for smart phones came out in 2004. Where have you been?

First Smartphone with a Hard Drive Announced

The iPhone also has a hard drive.

Does the iPhone 4 have a hard drive? - Answers.com

A smart phone or iPhone are just mini computers that make a phone call. If they weren't computers they never would be able to access the internet.

I can't believe you're that uninformed. The least you should have done is some research before you posted that and made a total fool of yourself by showing all intelligent people just have uninformed and down right stupid you are.

Actually Hillary's lies just keep on giving.



CLINTON: 'I may have short-circuited' when I said the FBI director said I was 'truthful'

when she said she only used one device that was reference to her server not the number of phones ... the diewctor was referring to her phones but ;ole a;ways ups republicans take a statement out of context and try to say see she lied ... she didn't lie its what your video is doing lying about the facts

A phone isn't a device? LOL.

Billy is diggin a deep ass hole!

LOL ... anything that has a hard drive on itis consider a device and her phones all had hard drives ... a phone is too a device what about what the state department remarks you said nothing about that why that ass hole ???


apple
Apple unveiled its iPhone device (officially the worst-kept secret in the history of technology), we had been giving serious thought to whether such a device should be called a computer or not. By some standards, the iPone is essentially a keyboardless laptop and by others,

Phones don't have hard drives.

Oh yes they do.

Smart phones and iPhones most certainly have hard drives. They're just a mini computer.

The announcement for hard drives for smart phones came out in 2004. Where have you been?

First Smartphone with a Hard Drive Announced

The iPhone also has a hard drive.

Does the iPhone 4 have a hard drive? - Answers.com

A smart phone or iPhone are just mini computers that make a phone call. If they weren't computers they never would be able to access the internet.

I can't believe you're that uninformed. The least you should have done is some research before you posted that and made a total fool of yourself by showing all intelligent people just have uninformed and down right stupid you are.

Well they use SSDs now but regardless, it's a device either way. So yes, Hillary lied. Like she always does.

 

[Dragonlady]

Is it surprising that the left doesn't want to discuss the laws Hillary broke, her lies upon lies and corruption?

Nothing Hillary has done is actionable. It is highly unlikely that anyone is sending truly sensitive information via email, because no system is safe. The email scandal is just another conservative boondoogle.

What about Trump owing billions to Goldman Sachs, his real estate empire deeply mired in debt to Wall Street Bankers, etc. What about that shit?

 

[Dragonlady]

He also had an official email account, as opposed to Hillary deliberately trying to avoid oversight. You do know, don't you, that Hillary did NOT turn over many emails that were work related?

How many is "many emails". She turned over 30,000 emails - 50,000 pages, in addition to the copies of the emails already on government servers under their recipients' accounts.

Pretty soon you loons will be posting that she didn't turn over any. But that would be George W. Bush who deleted 50,000 emails from his private server before leaving the White House without turning over any of them.

Perspective people.

 

[Iceweasel]

Nothing Hillary has done is actionable.

...because she's the Democrat nominee.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nothing Hillary has done is actionable.

...because she's the Democrat nominee.

Bullshit. It's because there's never any evidence in these endless Republican witch hunts. The investigations are based on rumours made up by Republicans and investigated by Republicans. They've spent 100 million dollars having the FBI, a Special Prosecutor, Congress and the Senate chase around trying to catch the Clintons doing something, ANYTHING illegal or actionable. When does it end???