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If you make something, can I use that item as evidence?Yes, you have. "...the creation of a cell phone". You want to present an object that you know has been created, because you have seen it being created. In doing so, you force me to concede to a creator. Doesn't work that way. Just because a phone is a created object, that does not dictrate that everything in nature was also created.I have not gotten within a 100 miles of creation yet. I can't even get you to agree on what the attributes of generic evidence is or what kind of information can be obtained from generic evidence. You know why? Because you know if you answer my questions you will lose.Not to skip a proof they are not. You want me to concede that creation is a fact. I will not do that. Prove that the universe was created.So you can't tell me about your own experiences? The use of proxies in science is common. You created a cell phone. You do know what a cell phone is, right?Nope. I will not concede to creation. If you want to prove the existence of a creator, you must first prove that anything was created.No. Let's start with the creation of a cell phone. Ok? If you set out to make a cell phone, do you end up making a turkey dinner instead?
We'll get to God soon enough. Be patient. First we must establish the attributes of evidence and understand how it is used. We are going to do this using our own experiences. Unless you are afraid, that is.
You do not get to force nme to concede to a creator. Try again.