Reality sets in for Oregon governor

[Care4all]

Tax expenditures equals "Tax Write offs", in other words, have a FLAT progressive tax rate, and not have all of these things that are deductible through the long form.... maybe a lower "progressive tax rate" where everyone is treated the same as far as not having all of these things that can be written off to lower their tax rate

I would like to see a flat income tax rate on all income earned in excess of $50,000 a year.

I had read that when income taxes were first instituted, the STANDARD DEDUCTION, was equivalent to $68,000 in today's dollars. Income tax was never meant to hit the middle class or lower, I suppose?

The first income tax in 1862 applied only to those with a wage of over $600 a year which was the standard deduction. In today's dollars it would be about $15,000.

I couldn't find the article i had read a few years ago, but I did find this....

I should have said PERSONAL EXEMPTION, instead of Standard Deduction, and since the 16th amendment was passed....but here is what I did find, the personal exemption in 1913 was $3000/$4000 for married people.

and i did find an inflation chart where it shows $3000 in 1913 is the equivalent to $71, 823 in today's worth, and $4000 is worth for an exemption today $95,764.

US Inflation Calculator

Historical Individual Income Tax Parameters

then it shows, AFTER personal exemptions are taken, from $0 to $20,000 the tax rate was 1% on taxable income, and that in today's dollars would mean from $0 to $478,822.22 was taxed at a 1% tax rate.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Rusty . If you have better ideas. Send them to your congress critter.

Deflection

Deflection? Of the nonsense you write? LMAO.

Nah that was a suggestion for you to do something worthwhile. Write your congress critter. They wAnt to hear from you. Really.

no they don't.
The staffers read the letter, then the staffer sends a generic pre printed letter back to you that has nothing to do with anything at all.

I wrote to David Vitter once... and that i exactly what happened... got a form letter addressing something completely unrelated.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Rusty . If you have better ideas. Send them to your congress critter.

Deflection

Deflection? Of the nonsense you write? LMAO.

Nah that was a suggestion for you to do something worthwhile. Write your congress critter. They wAnt to hear from you. Really.

no they don't.
The staffers read the letter, then the staffer sends a generic pre printed letter back to you that has nothing to do with anything at all.

I wrote to David Vitter once... and that i exactly what happened... got a form letter addressing something completely unrelated.

Its just a polite way for them to tell you to F-off and not bother them.

 

[Wilbur Right]

Someone that first collects welfare all year and does nothing, does not deserve to get money back that they never paid in the first place.

You seem ate up.
To qualify for the EITC, you have to have earned income. Like from a J. O. B.

You should know that. Google it.
And if a welfare person gets a job, why ain't you glad? You rather pay for welfare?

 

[Wilbur Right]

The staffers read the letter, then the staffer sends a generic pre printed letter back to you that has nothing to do with anything at all.

Doesn't mean they weren't glad you wrote. They were just busy talking to their real rich supporters.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Do you think people in China work for a buck an hour or somesuch because they LIKE it?

They live in a socialist society what do you expect??

Apple is a government run company in China?

That's China who cares??
Some day their people will get sick of living under socialism...

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

They live in a socialist society what do you expect??

Apple is a government run company in China?

That's China who cares??
Some day their people will get sick of living under socialism...

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Apple is a government run company in China?

That's China who cares??
Some day their people will get sick of living under socialism...

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

That's China who cares??
Some day their people will get sick of living under socialism...

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

I sent my daughter to private schools so I cant talk about the level of education that one gets in private now. Based on what I do see, Im not impressed.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

That's China who cares??
Some day their people will get sick of living under socialism...

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You are confused.

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

That's really irrelevant. What's your plan for educating those who can't afford Montessori and private school?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

That's really irrelevant. What's your plan for educating those who can't afford Montessori and private school?

every barber shop needs someone to sweep the floor.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

That's really irrelevant. What's your plan for educating those who can't afford Montessori and private school?

every barber shop needs someone to sweep the floor.

Most barbers sweep their own floors, last time I looked.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

That's really irrelevant. What's your plan for educating those who can't afford Montessori and private school?

every barber shop needs someone to sweep the floor.

Most barbers sweep their own floors, last time I looked.

see what happens when you raise minimum wage?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

but, all the same, every trash truck needs someone hanging off the back to empty the cans.

 

[Preacher]

That damn reality slaps the left in the face every time.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage

Facing a barrage of criticism from business, and labor skepticism over threats of higher unemployment, Oregon Governor Kate Brown is scaling back her $15.52 minimum wage proposal.

A November report by the Manhattan Institute, “Counterproductive: The Employment and Income Effects of Raising America’s Minimum Wage to $12 and to $15 per Hour,” concludes that raising minimum wages is likely to result in adverse consequences that would lower total national income levels.

“The earnings gained for those who would keep their jobs would be outweighed by the earnings lost by those who would become jobless,” the report detailed. “As a result, the net income gains tend to be smaller or more negative when using the annual earnings approach than when using the wage approach.”

Facing concerns from the right and the left that her minimum wage proposal was an obvious job killer in Oregon, Gov. Brown blinked on January 28 and has scaled back her proposal to only a $.50 raise per hour statewide July increase, from $9.25 to $9.75-per-hour. The Portland metro area would see an increase in July 2017 to $11.25 an hour, with the rest of the state’s minimum wages rising to $10.25 an hour.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage - Breitbart

Sad. People will be stuck making min wage so the CEO's can make millions off the workers backs.

You're only stuck if choose to be stuck.

Sure sure. Everyone has no kids,no rent,no bills so its SOOOO EASY to get a college education and get a good job...oh wait never mind now college educations aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

You are, nothing good comes from socialism....

The public school system comes from socialism. Would you prefer that the poor go uneducated for lack of the ability to pay?

Oh good grief.

So you concede that a socialist system of education beats any other idea.

Didn't work for me... the public school system was a mess. My children went to Montessori School in NY and private school here. I wouldn't let them near public education.

That's really irrelevant. What's your plan for educating those who can't afford Montessori and private school?

It isn't irrelevant. It is quite relevant. You think I liked the idea of paying the exorbitant taxes in NY AND having to send my kids through private school because the school I was already paying for was a shithole? Hell no. I have no problem with PE, but it, like all other government institution has become a bloated bureaucracy that requires more and more money and consistently delivers less. How many kids do you think graduate from private school and are illiterate?

Check out this graphic: Your Socialist utopia ain't working.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

That damn reality slaps the left in the face every time.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage

Facing a barrage of criticism from business, and labor skepticism over threats of higher unemployment, Oregon Governor Kate Brown is scaling back her $15.52 minimum wage proposal.

A November report by the Manhattan Institute, “Counterproductive: The Employment and Income Effects of Raising America’s Minimum Wage to $12 and to $15 per Hour,” concludes that raising minimum wages is likely to result in adverse consequences that would lower total national income levels.

“The earnings gained for those who would keep their jobs would be outweighed by the earnings lost by those who would become jobless,” the report detailed. “As a result, the net income gains tend to be smaller or more negative when using the annual earnings approach than when using the wage approach.”

Facing concerns from the right and the left that her minimum wage proposal was an obvious job killer in Oregon, Gov. Brown blinked on January 28 and has scaled back her proposal to only a $.50 raise per hour statewide July increase, from $9.25 to $9.75-per-hour. The Portland metro area would see an increase in July 2017 to $11.25 an hour, with the rest of the state’s minimum wages rising to $10.25 an hour.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage - Breitbart

Sad. People will be stuck making min wage so the CEO's can make millions off the workers backs.

You're only stuck if choose to be stuck.

Sure sure. Everyone has no kids,no rent,no bills so its SOOOO EASY to get a college education and get a good job...oh wait never mind now college educations aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

Uhm, I waited until I was in my senior year of college to get married and start a family. And my degree has helped me with a very lucrative career as a CPA and an ERP specialist. I mean, it's no basket weaving degree...

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That damn reality slaps the left in the face every time.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage

Facing a barrage of criticism from business, and labor skepticism over threats of higher unemployment, Oregon Governor Kate Brown is scaling back her $15.52 minimum wage proposal.

A November report by the Manhattan Institute, “Counterproductive: The Employment and Income Effects of Raising America’s Minimum Wage to $12 and to $15 per Hour,” concludes that raising minimum wages is likely to result in adverse consequences that would lower total national income levels.

“The earnings gained for those who would keep their jobs would be outweighed by the earnings lost by those who would become jobless,” the report detailed. “As a result, the net income gains tend to be smaller or more negative when using the annual earnings approach than when using the wage approach.”

Facing concerns from the right and the left that her minimum wage proposal was an obvious job killer in Oregon, Gov. Brown blinked on January 28 and has scaled back her proposal to only a $.50 raise per hour statewide July increase, from $9.25 to $9.75-per-hour. The Portland metro area would see an increase in July 2017 to $11.25 an hour, with the rest of the state’s minimum wages rising to $10.25 an hour.

Oregon Governor Abandons $15+ Minimum Wage - Breitbart

Sad. People will be stuck making min wage so the CEO's can make millions off the workers backs.

You're only stuck if choose to be stuck.

Sure sure. Everyone has no kids,no rent,no bills so its SOOOO EASY to get a college education and get a good job...oh wait never mind now college educations aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

Sorry but mine and my husbands paid off handsomely...with that said I don't care for taking care of people who don't have the motivation or desire to better themselves, if someone needs hand up that's fine but after about two years and you haven't done it you're on your own. Public assistance is not and was never meant to be a career. If you can't afford children don't have them, you're not being fair to them or yourself

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

but, all the same, every trash truck needs someone hanging off the back to empty the cans.

That is even automated... big old arms comes down, swoops up you can, dumps it and puts it back on the curb.