Rand Paul: Right-to-work laws 'would be great for the country'...will introduce legislation on that this week!

One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
are you saying its better they get the jobs than americans??
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
are you saying its better they get the jobs than americans??

I'm simply stating facts.
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
are you saying its better they get the jobs than americans??

I'm simply stating facts.
not really,, your pushing for more americans to lose their jobs or reduce the jobs available,,,
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
are you saying its better they get the jobs than americans??

I'm simply stating facts.
not really,, your pushing for more americans to lose their jobs or reduce the jobs available,,,

I'm simply stating facts. When the weather man notes it going to start raining in a few hours is he pushing for rain?
 
One has to chuckle at the "Libertarian" looking for the Federal government to take over what the states address now.

Ol Rand is really struggling to find a niche.
not all states are dealing with it,, and whats more general welfare than giving all americans the right to work without being extorted???

Giving them a fair wage for for working. A job that doesn’t pay a living wage is useless. Taxpayers should not have to subsidize wages for the working poor. If your company can’t pay living wages it doesn’t deserve to be in business.
what is a fair or living wage??

in my world thats about 75 an hr,,,

A fair wage depends on the job and where you live. A living wage is one that will put a roof over your head and food in your belly and provide basic living expenses.

Wages, as a percentage of income, are now at the same level as they were in the Gilded Age, when the Robber Barons ruled. Over the past 40 years, corporations have absorbed increases in the cost of property, raw materials, insurance, transportation, equipment and supplies. Executive income has increased by 1000% over the same time. And profits are are at a record high. But the buying power of working class income has actually declined during the same timeframe.
and what about a teenager still living at home??

should they be paid what a family if 5 needs to provide a roof and food??

are you also saying business's should pay people based on their family sizes and desired living conditions???

If Musk and Bezo's get billions there is nothing wrong with a teen getting $15 an hour.
The owner of the company takes all the risks, makes all the sacrifices, puts in all the insane hours to get the company up and running. That's a far cry from a teenager coming in after school for a few hours to learn a trade or get some work experience. It's a false comparison. You might as well complain that the janitor in a hospital should be paid more because a heart surgeon gets paid a lot. The company depends on the leadership making sound decisions, it doesn't depend on a teenager working for some weekend spending money.

IOW, you're ignoring the thousands of business owners who not only do NOT get billions, but barely pay themselves a salary in order to keep their company afloat. Musk and Bezo are outliers, NOT the norm.

There is zero risk when the government is giving you billions.
then stop the billions

I'm all for that. Are you granting me the power?
why would you need my permission??

I've been pushing for it for decades and one of the biggest reasons I dont like or vote for dems or repubes,,

Neither do I. I go a step further though and support those harmed by the practice.
exactly who and how are you supporting them??

so far you just want to make it worse by expanding government handouts,,,

By supporting them in programs that offset the harm. Like raising the minimum wage.
that has nothing to do with government hand outs,, and it also reduces the amount of jobs available,, so in the end what youre doing is hurting the low income worker not helping them,,

I'll be advocating for a basic wage for everyone when the billionaires get rid of the jobs.
I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense,,

People have to eat. We can pay them or they can steal it.
did you know food literally grows right out of the ground?? and in most places does that with little to no help??

and if they do steal it and end up in jail or dead doesnt help them,,

or god forbid they work for it,,,

You can pay for their incarceration (thousands of new prisons) or pay them a wage.
those jobs are available or will be once the dems end their science experiment with the lockdowns,,,

of course they will have to contend with all the illegals biden plans on letting in or giving asylum,,,

as it stands right now the only people not working are the ones that refuse to,,

Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
are you saying its better they get the jobs than americans??

I'm simply stating facts.
not really,, your pushing for more americans to lose their jobs or reduce the jobs available,,,

I'm simply stating facts. When the weather man notes it going to start raining in a few hours is he pushing for rain?
are you OK with it??
 
Business is going to need the illegals back after the lock down.
Sure, since biden voters are not willing to work

Millions of illegals have been working here for decades.
are you OK with that as more americans lose jobs??

I've argued for years to go after the employers to no avail.
that doesnt answer the question,,,

are you OK with them being here and taking american jobs??
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!

Useless gesturing.

Stop introducing bills you know will never pass either chamber.

The bill was introduced as a gambit to let the Democrat effort to outlaw the God Given Right to Work nationwide wasn't going to be unopposed.
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!
I’ve never seen evidence they are all that great...

Of course you don't see why anyone should be allowed to make their own choice, we should all be forced with guns to conform to the will of the majority. It's why you're a Democrat, you're a fascist
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!
I’ve never seen evidence they are all that great...
That's because there is no such evidence.

It's the "right" to low wages, to be fired at any time for any reason, to no benefits, and to have nothing for retirement.


Where did you get the idea that paying union dues really gets its members shit? You are talking to an ex-union member here, formerly in the UFCW international and a member in 1983. The Union Wages that the Labor Bosses negotiated for me were $3.50 (legal min at time was 3.35) and more than $4 a week was deducted for dues, not including the initiation fee. A minimum wage job w/o union dues would pay more.

So, don't tell me about the glories of unionism, I saw them and suffered under them.
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!
pretty sad in this country you have to pass a law to get the right to work without being extorted by a group of thugs for a part of your paycheck,,,

we arent a democracy,,,
There's another side to the coin: Prohibiting labor from forming a united front that negotiates with capital is not democracy.

I appreciate that unions can be abusive but at least you have an input with how the union is run. If you think you are going to do better against corporate executives, good luck.

"Right to work, my ass".
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!
pretty sad in this country you have to pass a law to get the right to work without being extorted by a group of thugs for a part of your paycheck,,,

we arent a democracy,,,
There's another side to the coin: Prohibiting labor from forming a united front that negotiates with capital is not democracy.

I appreciate that unions can be abusive but at least you have an input with how the union is run. If you think you are going to do better against corporate executives, good luck.

"Right to work, my ass".
we arent a democracy and neither are unions,, and you have no say how they use your dues when they donate to politicians,,, unless of course youre a dem cause that all they donate too,,
 

there's something called DEMOCRACY. someone remind Rand!
I’ve never seen evidence they are all that great...

Of course you don't see why anyone should be allowed to make their own choice, we should all be forced with guns to conform to the will of the majority. It's why you're a Democrat, you're a fascist
Unions negotiate contracts as a united front. You are free to do as you please, negotiate for yourself.
 

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