Raising retirement to 70 yrs..

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    Today, more Americans live 20 or even 30 years past age 65.
    When SS was established life expectancy WAS age 65 and the planners never anticipated several factors:
    A) Americans living longer and B) More Americans living longer!

    So why is there a big hangup on raising the age to 70 when people can start collecting?
    No one under age 55 would be affected.
    BUT the financial savings would be tremendous.

    YET the politicians are claiming those that want to correct this are totally wrong when they say they want to destroy grandma's social security.

    Why not just be honest here.
    It's not wrong to correct an issue that wasn't considered 70 years ago that people would live longer so why not allow a correction with out all the name calling and accusations.
     
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    It might have something to do with people in their 60s and even 50s being all but unemployable. Since it is so difficult for older people to get and keep jobs how is raising the eligibility age not cheating them out of something they worked for?
     
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    Moving it over to private investments is how you risk their social security.

    All you need for proof is this past stock market crash.
     
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    Yeah, I've only paid into this for the last 30 fucking years. Fuck me right? The rich need their fucking taxes cut IN FUCKING HALF in that SAME TIME FRAME.

    I mean the SUPER RICH can't be expected to pull their own weight like WORKING PEOPLE can, huh?
    They need HELP, the poor wilting darlings.
     
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    Wait till you have worked for 20-25 years and think to yourself...oh crap...20-25 years still left to go.
    F*ck that. That is one step away from servitude.
    People get jobs as teenagers, basically the first point in their lives when they are employable. Then they work through college...then they start working real jobs...and then work for for 48 years...hope you are still alive and quit working when you have almost no ability to enjoy the rest of your life - quit working only at a time when you physically are worn out???

    No thanks.
     
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    That doesn't make any sense!
    If someone isn't working then they are eligible for many safety net programs.
    PLUS the "out of work" excuse is totally STUPID!

    Every day I get emails from Snagajob, careerbuilder any number of jobs!
    Local convenience stores, retail dollar stores... all looking for help!

    It's just some people that could be working think those jobs are beneath them!
    Their egos are in the way of reality!

    I'm talking about the future of social security which without upping the age there will be no social security! So what you said makes NO sense if there is NO social security!
     
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    If it went into private investments


    There would be money in the accounts, You cant say that about the current system.

    In fact we had to threaten to withhold checks if we couldnt borrow more.

    Yes the crash would have lowered values, but looking further the damn government is who started that ball rolling.

    Are you afraid to invest ten percent? To have an actual account where you have some say so.
     
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    No.
    They don't want those jobs because they get more in unemployment.
     
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    Older workers at least today are taking jobs away from younger workers. Especially with the difference in work ethic between older workers and those ready to enter the workforce.
     
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    I would never bet my life on the scam assed stock market
     

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