Racing to the bottom?

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  1. hortysir
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    Making college more affordable under the threat of federal dollars.
    Obama wants to make college more affordable | KTVB.COM Boise
    So colleges strive to lower their costs in order to get more federal funding.

    Government strives to find colleges that they can spend tons more cash on.

    Colleges lower costs by hiring B-list educators!!


    Win-win for everybody!!

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    Why would anyone want to lower the competitive bar?

    (I promise that the "win-win" remark was sarcasm)
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    Sorry bout that,


    1. You are looking at this all wrong.
    2. What Obama is saying is, " The value of higher education is over rated, and too expensive and not worth what you colleges and universities are trying to get now.
    3. He is in effect trying to institute *Price Controls*.
    4. Did we just turn communist over night or what, (?), he has already screwed up the healthcare industry with this concept.
    5. This should be making all you libturds inner alarm go off right about now.:lol:
    6. Maybe he should focus that energy on energy, like the price of a gallon of gas, what do ya think?:eusa_hand:



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    The schools are in the business of selling credentials.

    They decide what books the students have to buy, what to teach out of the books and what to put on the tests. If the student just focuses on the subject and goes looking for good books on the subject it is often not too difficult to find better books than what the schools are using.

    So if we really wanted to educate people the thing to do is create a National Recommended Reading List.

    But that would interfere with the business model of our educational system.

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    Yes. Just like everything this president proposes, he is spending taxpayer money - $10 billion - to "save" money.

    “Well, people when I say that look at me and say, ‘What are you talking about? You’re telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?’” Biden said. “The answer is yes, I’m telling you.” - Joe Biden

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    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

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    Our entire approach to educating our people needs a serious RETHINK.

    Of course so does our entire way of governing at pretty much every aspect, so this ought not be a surprise.
     
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    I don't try to pretend that I understand corporate tax laws or the Higher Education budget, but it seems that the president want to "incentivize" universities to do the right thing.

    Does he have the same philosophy when it comes to private industry? I think not.
     
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    Absotively agree, Ed.

    I see colleges gutting their budgets in order to make themselves more attractive to the Fed for more funding.
    And what happens to those that have severely slashed their purse-strings only to find out they're standing at an empty trough?
     
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    Actually, employers do. Universities bend over backwards to make their graduates more attractive to the business world. The needs of employers, not educators, are the driving force behind how accreditation decisions are made, what goes into a course, and what students ultimately will see in a college classroom.

    And I'd be surprised if there's a better Calculus book than Stewart's Calculus. If there is, I'd very much like to know. Book selection in math courses is a fairly big deal and I know I'm always struggling to find the best book available for the topic at hand. If I find a better book for Geometry, Abstract Algebra, etc, I use it. So far, what I'm using in the classroom is the best out there.
     
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    I don't care about what they do. As long as they lower the cost for the tuition fee so that I can continue my schooling.. Well, I am just expressing my opinion..:eusa_angel:
     

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