Questions for theists

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    1) Do you believe based on any evidence, or is it 'faith'

    2) If the former
    ---- How does the evidence support your religion
    ---- Why do you discount the evidence cited by other religions?
    if the latter
    ---- why is 'faith' valid or worthy of respect?
    ---- why is it good to have 'faith' in your god(s) rather than someone elses?

    3) Do you think the prescriptive ethics of your religion are necessary?
    -if yes, then how do all other religions get by if they're wrong and don't have your god (for Abrahamists, this means they follow Satan, the god of this world- so how can they have morals?)
    -if no, does your religion service any purpose at all in society (other than serving as a unifying factor for aiding the formation of social groups that can then fight eachother), or is it purely a personal coping mechanism?
     
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    1. faith

    3. I don't know what other people in other religions think or do.
     
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    ---- why is 'faith' valid or worthy of respect?
    ---- why is it good or valid to have 'faith' in your god(s) rather than someone elses?

    3. I don't know what other people in other religions think or do.[/quote]
    Do you think the prescriptive ethics of your religion are necessary?
     
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    Do you think the prescriptive ethics of your religion are necessary?[/QUOTE]

    1. i don't know if faith is worthy of respect. I don't have faith in order to earn the respect of others.

    3. somewhat, although someone can convert on their deathbed.
     
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    ---- why is it good or valid to have 'faith' in your god(s) rather than someone elses?

    Why do you have faith in the particular deity in which you believe, if you are not guided by evidence? Is this not unreasonable and illogical? How do you know you are correct and follow the correct deity? How do you know,since you have stated that your decisions are not influenced by evidence, that you are not following a false religion and will not be punished by the 'the real deit(y/ies)?

    Allow me to clarify. Do you take prescriptive ethics from your faith/religion?
    --If no, then where do draw your ethics and/or morality from? Does your faith serve any purpose beyond a personal coping mecahism? If yes, what role or purpose does it serve?
    --If yes, then do you feel
    ----That the individual must also draw morality ad/or ethics from faith to have such a 'compass' or be a 'good person'?
    --------If yes, must it be your faith?
    --------If no, then what makes any such system valid, including yours? if yours any more or less valid than anothers?
    ------------If yes, then why?
    ------------if no, then did you not just contradict your assertion that it is needed, as it cannot be shown that any such system is more or less valid than any other system?
    ----that society as a whole must draw morality and/or ethics from such a system?
    --------If yes, must it be your faith?
    --------If no, then what makes any such system valid, including yours? if yours any more or less valid than another's?
    ------------If yes, then why?
    ------------if no, then did you not just contradict your assertion that it is needed, as it cannot be shown that any such system is more or less valid than any other system?
     
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