Question

[kansasindependent]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

 

[forkup]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

I kind of doubt it. A third party if it wants a meaningful chance of gaining power needs to speak at least to some extent to either base. As it is now, polarization guarantees that neither base will defect in fear of giving the other side victory.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump is as close to a third party as we're going to get.
And by looking at the behavior from both sides of the aisle he's hitting em where it hurts.

 

[TNHarley]

We have a viable 3rd party. The libertarians.
I know i know.. They arent statists and believe in actual equality and individual liberty so its a no go..

 

[XponentialChaos]

Simple solution to get a viable 3rd party option: tiered voting.

My first choice for President is _________.
If my first choice is eliminated, then my second choice for President is ________.

Unfortunately, we can hardly manage a regular voting system without an abundance of issues. Oh well.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

Unfortunately, to many, this means AOC or another Socialist party

 

[Dick Foster]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

So you're finally realizing that the so called two party system and the two parties only exist to perpetuate one another. Fact is there is no " Two Party System" otherwise it would be codified in our constitution. In fact our nation would be much better off without ANY political parties and the people started electing people and not organizations. Especially organizations whose main intent and primary purposes are to defraud the nation as a whole and it's people.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Trump is as close to a third party as we're going to get.
And by looking at the behavior from both sides of the aisle he's hitting em where it hurts.

Has it ever occurred to you that that big beautiful southern border wall can also......

Keep people IN ?

 

[LuckyDuck]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

We already have a third party, the Libertarian party. We also have a fourth party, the Green party.
There are fifth, sixth, seventh, et cetera. Your choices are:
1. Research all of them and select one from the list.
OR
2. Create your own political party, register as such, distribute your leaflets, give your orations and hope for the best. But keep this in mind, it had better be a good one, because mainstream USA has consistently sided with either the formerly Democrat party or the Republican party; not because they were the only political parties available, but because much of each side's policies appealed to the voters and those others, not really.

 

[B. Kidd]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

What do YOU think are the top 3 or 4 issues that need to be addressed?

Then, proceed from there.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump is as close to a third party as we're going to get.
And by looking at the behavior from both sides of the aisle he's hitting em where it hurts.

Has it ever occurred to you that that big beautiful southern border wall can also......

Keep people IN ?

If I wanted to leave the country it sure as hell wouldnt be through the southern border.

 

[22lcidw]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

Perhaps a move to a type of Parliamentary System. Progs in reality are only a part of the Democratic Party. We could likely split up the Democratic Party in three separate parties and the Republican into the same. Mixing in the libertarians and other parties. Up to several factions. With alliances made that are not in totality. With the Prog Party as it is. It is all or nothing in their agendas. And they get one of two slots every 4 years to go for it.

 

[Indeependent]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

viable!

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

If I wanted to leave the country it sure as hell wouldnt be through the southern border.

Ugh! Cantada is probably worse

 

[Marion Morrison]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

We already have a third party, the Libertarian party. We also have a fourth party, the Green party.
There are fifth, sixth, seventh, et cetera. Your choices are:
1. Research all of them and select one from the list.
OR
2. Create your own political party, register as such, distribute your leaflets, give your orations and hope for the best. But keep this in mind, it had better be a good one, because mainstream USA has consistently sided with either the formerly Democrat party or the Republican party; not because they were the only political parties available, but because much of each side's policies appealed to the voters and those others, not really.

How about no parties and run on the issues?

 

[XponentialChaos]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

viable!

?

 

[Indeependent]

I think a viable 3rd party would solve a lot of issues.

viable!

?

Show me any success with any party other than R or D.
99% of people don't even know what their platforms are.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

We already have a third party, the Libertarian party. We also have a fourth party, the Green party.
There are fifth, sixth, seventh, et cetera. Your choices are:
1. Research all of them and select one from the list.
OR
2. Create your own political party, register as such, distribute your leaflets, give your orations and hope for the best. But keep this in mind, it had better be a good one, because mainstream USA has consistently sided with either the formerly Democrat party or the Republican party; not because they were the only political parties available, but because much of each side's policies appealed to the voters and those others, not really.

How about no parties and run on the issues?

When the founding fathers drafted the Declaration of Independence, they didn't envision political parties, only competing issues.

 

[night_son]

I’m hoping for some real meaningful dialogue in this thread (perhaps I’m being naive). I’m completely dissatisfied with both the Republican and Democrat parties so I guess I would consider myself an independent. This has left me feeling out on an island politically.

So anyway as I look at myself wanting a legitimate 3rd party this thought has crossed my mind.

What if as long as we have a partisan two-party system there never can be racial reconciliation? Because it doesn’t really benefit either side and then prevents coalitions around a similar issue.

For example African-Americans for the past 50-60 years have traditionally voted for the Democratic Party. So it doesnt really benefit the Democrats for there to be real racial reconciliation because they wouldn’t be able to point to the GOP as racist and keep the loyalty of the black vote.

Then as a Republican if you take up the cause of racial reconciliation you get screamed at for being a leftist socialist, anti-police, and a marxists.

I just wonder if we had a real 3rd moderate party if it would help bring real racial reconciliation.

If there's one and only one point of agreement between the modern republican and democratic parties, it must be that no third political party be given equal voice on the national electoral stage. America's two party system is an ancient machine whose metal surfaces are pitted and worn down to the brittle steel beneath. Creation of an equal third party would require the construction of a whole new add-on to this machine. At the end of the day whatever new party America could get would have to be just as corrupt as the other two in order to compete. The only other path for a new third party is through a level of populism unprecedented in American political history or a rise to power through violence. At the moment BLM's got both those prerequisites covered.