Question I've Always Wondered: Why is the Left So Adamant about Abortion Remaining Legal?

[Bob Blaylock]

Why not mind your own business instead of forcing your beliefs on others? That's Fascism.

But you're perfectly fine with someone imposing her belief on an innocent child, to the point of killing that child?

 

[jc456]

Why not mind your own business instead of forcing your beliefs on others? That's Fascism.

When truths hurt! Still hate facts huh?

 

[surada]

But you're perfectly fine with someone imposing her belief on an innocent child, to the point of killing that child?

We're speaking of zygotes and fetuses. Mind your own business.

 

[jc456]

We're speaking of zygotes and fetuses. Mind your own business.

Human being with their own dna

 

[Bob Blaylock]

We're speaking of zygotes and fetuses. Mind your own business.

Human beings. Who have every bit as much right to be allowed to live as you do. More, in fact, because none of them have ever advocated for the murder of other human beings.

 

[Lesh]

Because it’s about women having control over their own lives.

 

[jc456]

Because it’s about women having control over their own lives.

An excuse to kill babies human beings as contraception

 

[sartre play]

For decades, I have wondered why the the leftist leaders fights tooth and nail to keep abortion legal.
There's the reason they put forth, that they care about women's health which is obviously nonsense. Camouflage to hide the real reason.

But what IS the real reason?

1) Is it money? Is it driven by the billion dollar abortion mill industry led by PP?
2) Is it political power? Does the left think blacks value abortion so much, they have to fight to keep it legal in exchange for votes? I find it hard to believe abortion would be THAT important to blacks.
3) Is it a ideological, meaning is it a tool of the Marxist left to create the notion that devaluing human life is acceptable, thereby setting the table for a Marxist takeover?

I'm really not sure. Does anyone know the answer?

Bottom line, We don't have control of much, The big money controls most of everything. If Men got pregnant this would Never have happened If you don't have the last word on who controls your own body you pretty much have nothing.

 

[jc456]

Bottom line, We don't have control of much, The big money controls most of everything. If Men got pregnant this would Never have happened If you don't have the last word on who controls your own body you pretty much have nothing.

Oh for fk sake

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Because it’s about women having control over their own lives.

If it was about women having control over their own lives, then a woman who had an abortion would be the one to die from it, instead of her innocent child.

 

[Red Front]

But you're perfectly fine with someone imposing her belief on an innocent child, to the point of killing that child?

We disagree on the most fundamental issue and that is the ontological status of a zygote, embryo, or unviable fetus. You consider what the woman conceives in her womb as a full-fledged human being/person, whereas we consider zygotes, embryos, and unviable fetuses as potential, future human beings/persons. For us, the only actual human being/person in the equation of early gestation (i.e. early pregnancy), that has any rights to assert and exercise is the woman. The zygote, embryo, or unviable fetus doesn't have the right to force the woman that conceived it to actualize it into a human being/person. It's up to the woman (i.e. the actual human being), to decide whether she's going to lend her body/life/resources to the gestation of what is attached to her uterus (her body).

Leftists clearly see the hypocrisy of these Evangelical do-gooders, who pretend to be "pro-life", supposedly caring for the life of embryos and fetuses in other people's bodies, while being so indifferent to that life in the womb once it is born. So-called "pro-life" Christian conservatives harp and bark about the supposed suffering and death of embryos in the wombs of strangers, while flippantly dismissing the needs of that life in the womb once it is born, by separating it from the resources that it needs to live outside of the womb. They vote for politicians that serve the rich at the expense of the poor, defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children.

If that wasn't enough, these same Christian conservatives are the ones griping about the government imposing mask mandates in the middle of a deadly, nationwide pandemic, because supposedly the government authorities don't have the right to force them to wear a mask on their faces (bodies), even in public venues. They are indignant, if not enraged by the prospect of the government telling them what they must do with their own bodies. They appeal to their "personal sovereignty" and autonomy, over their own bodies. Isn't that interesting? Then they turn around like repulsive, disgusting hypocrites and want to force women to remain pregnant for nine months, via government mandate, demanding women bear all of the costs and hazards of pregnancy.

Mr & Miss Christian, where are you going to be when that pregnant woman loses her job due to her pregnancy and can't support herself, and is essentially rendered destitute, if not homeless? Where will you be? Comfortably in your home, while that pregnant woman is forced to move back in with her parents and live off of them or perhaps even go to a homeless shelter. Have you ever lived in a homeless shelter before? I have, it's HELL ON EARTH. That's why so many homeless people opt to sleep outside on a park bench, rather than being packed like a sardine in a room with forty other homeless people, coughing on them with TB. Who wants to get eaten alive by bedbugs and spend the whole night breathing contaminated, toxic, stinky feet and fart air?

You Christian conservatives claim to be "pro-life" but you really aren't and that's why leftists are even more adamant about women having the right to determine whether they're going to remain pregnant or not. When we have these mammon-worshiping holly-roller hypocrites who show so little regard for the poor, always blaming them for being poor (supposedly the poor are lazy and deserve whatever hellish conditions they're living in), it emboldens the left to assert a woman's reproductive rights and sovereignty over their bodies. You conservative Christians aren't pro-life, you're pro-death with your politics and government policies. Completely indifferent to the legitimate rights and needs of the poor (including poor children).

Lastly and ironically, even the Bible doesn't equate the life of embryos and fetuses to the life of the woman. I've already posted Biblical evidence for that in several other posts.


IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE "PRO-LIFE" FOR LIFE INSIDE THE WOMB, YOU SHOULD BE PRO-LIFE FOR LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB AS WELL. IF NOT, YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY.

 

[jc456]

We disagree on the fundamental issue and that is the status of a zygote, embryo, or unviable fetus. You consider what the woman conceives in her womb as a full-fledged human being/person, whereas we consider zygotes, embryos, and unviable fetuses as potential, future human beings/persons. For us, the only actual human being/person in the equation of early gestation (i.e. early pregnancy), that has any rights to assert and exercise is the woman. The zygote, embryo or unviable fetus doesn't have the right to force the woman that conceived it to actualize it into a human being/person, that's up to the woman (i.e. the actual human being), to decide whether she's going to lend her body/life/resources to that end.

Leftists also see the hypocrisy of these Evangelical do-gooders, who pretend to be "pro-life", supposedly caring for the life of embryos and fetuses in other people's bodies, while being so indifferent to that life in the womb once it is born. So-called "pro-life" Christian conservatives harp and bark about the supposed suffering and death of embryos in the wombs of strangers, while flippantly dismissing the needs of that life in the womb once it is born, by separating it from the resources that it needs to live outside of the womb. They vote for politicians that serve the rich at the expense of the poor, defunding social programs that help single mothers raise their children.

If that wasn't enough, these same Christian conservatives are the ones griping about the government imposing mask mandates in the middle of a deadly, nationwide pandemic, because supposedly the government authorities don't have the right to force them to wear a mask on their faces (bodies), even in public venues. They are indignant, if not enraged by the prospect of the government telling them what they must do with their own bodies. They appeal to their "personal sovereignty" and autonomy, over their own bodies. Isn't that interesting? Then they turn around like repulsive, disgusting hypocrites and want to force women to remain pregnant for nine months, , via government mandate, bearing all of the costs and hazards of pregnancy.

Mr & Miss Christian, where are you going to be when that pregnant woman loses her job due to her pregnancy and can't support herself, and is essentially rendered destitute, if not homeless? Where will you be? Comfortably in your home, while that pregnant woman is forced to move back in with her parents and live off of them or perhaps even go to a homeless shelter. Have you ever lived in a homeless shelter before? I have, it's HELL ON EARTH. That's why so many homeless people opt to sleep outside on a park bench, rather than being packed like a sardine in a room with forty other homeless people, coughing on them with TB. Who wants to get eaten alive by bedbugs and spend the whole night breathing contaminated, toxic, stinky feet and fart air?

You Christian conservatives claim to be "pro-life" but you really aren't and that's why leftists are even more adamant about women having the right to determine whether they're going to remain pregnant or not. When we have these mammon-worshiping holly-roller hypocrites who show so little regard for the poor, always blaming them for being poor (supposedly the poor are lazy and deserve whatever hellish conditions they're living in), it emboldens the left to assert a woman's reproductive rights and sovereignty over their bodies. You conservative Christians aren't pro-life, you're pro-death with your politics and government policies. Completely indifferent to the legitimate rights and needs of the poor (including poor children).

Lastly and ironically, even the Bible doesn't equate the life of embryos and fetuses to the life of the woman. I've already posted Biblical evidence for that in several other posts.


IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE "PRO-LIFE" FOR LIFE INSIDE THE WOMB, YOU SHOULD BE PRO-LIFE FOR LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB AS WELL. IF NOT, YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY.

Actually, it’s simple, is the life a human? If it isn’t, what is it, a dog?

Human cells and dna

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

For decades, I have wondered why the the leftist leaders fights tooth and nail to keep abortion legal.
There's the reason they put forth, that they care about women's health which is obviously nonsense. Camouflage to hide the real reason.

But what IS the real reason?

1) Is it money? Is it driven by the billion dollar abortion mill industry led by PP?
2) Is it political power? Does the left think blacks value abortion so much, they have to fight to keep it legal in exchange for votes? I find it hard to believe abortion would be THAT important to blacks.
3) Is it a ideological, meaning is it a tool of the Marxist left to create the notion that devaluing human life is acceptable, thereby setting the table for a Marxist takeover?

I'm really not sure. Does anyone know the answer?

The founder of Planned Parenthood Margret Sanger covers every reason the loons want abortion. Most of them are horribly racist in nature.

21 Quotes by Margaret Sanger that Will Probably Make You Sick

Yes, share them to unmask Planned Parenthood.

tfpstudentaction.org

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I've Always Wondered

There really isn’t a reason to ‘wonder’ – it’s something every American should understand and support: oppose government excess and overreach at the expense of individual liberty, such as ‘banning’ abortion.

And because liberals have always defended individual liberty and opposed government excess and overreach, they likewise oppose ‘banning’ abortion.

Moreover, the issue of ‘abortion’ shouldn’t even be a matter of criminal law; to seek to criminalize private citizens and the decisions they make about their personal lives is the epitome of illiberal authoritarianism.

Citizens know best how to conduct their private lives, not the state; it is neither the role nor responsibility of the state to take from women their right to privacy by compelling them to give birth against their will through force of law.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We're speaking of zygotes and fetuses. Mind your own business.

And that one might consider a zygote or fetus to be a ‘person’ is completely unrelated to the wrongheaded notion that abortion should be ‘banned,’ criminalized, or otherwise rendered illegal.

It’s perfectly appropriate and consistent to oppose abortion for personal, moral, or religious reasons whole also opposing ‘banning’ abortion and supporting and defending a woman’s right to privacy.

There are problems, issues, and controversies that are beyond the scope and authority of government, where government excess and overreach at the expense of individual liberty is wrong and reprehensible, such as using the power of the state to ‘ban’ abortion.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Because it’s about women having control over their own lives.

Correct.

And in order for women to be in control of their own lives, we must not allow the state to interferer in the personal, private decisions women make concerning their reproductive autonomy by criminalizing those decisions.

 

[surada]

But you're perfectly fine with someone imposing her belief on an innocent child, to the point of killing that child?

It's her body not yours.

 

[jc456]

The founder of Planned Parenthood Margret Sanger covers every reason the loons want abortion. Most of them are horribly racist in nature.

21 Quotes by Margaret Sanger that Will Probably Make You Sick

Yes, share them to unmask Planned Parenthood.

tfpstudentaction.org

It’s why planned parenthood facilities are near black neighborhoods

 

[Lesh]

We can argue back and forth forever. In fact that argument has been going on for over forty years (ever since the religious right realized they could turn this into a money making power grab)

But the bottom line is

Republicans want to end abortion and WILL if given the chance

Full stop

 

[jc456]

We can argue back and forth forever. In fact that argument has been going on for over forty years (ever since the religious right realized they could turn this into a money making power grab)

But the bottom line is

Republicans want to end abortion and WILL if given the chance

Full stop

You can argue, but you’re wrong. Until you can explain why the baby isn’t it’s own self