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    Jeff since the NT Gospels include both the New and Old Testaments, can you tell me of one instance in which G-d the Father directly names his son?

    I am not talking about indirect references Jesus sayings from St. Luke like 'those who see me also the see the Father' or 'I and the Father are one.'
     
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    In Matthew, where heaven opens up, a dove decends on Jesus, and a voice comes from heaven saying, "This is my son, in whom I am well pleased."

    That's about as direct as it gets. I can't quote the verse, since I don't have my Bible with me right now, but it's early in the book (pretty sure it's Matthew, but could be wrong) when John the Baptist baptises Jesus.
     
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    Was that "voice coming from the heavens saying, This is my son, in whom I am well pleased" coming from G-d or maybe from one of His angels? Again I ask if anywhere in the NT Gospel G-d the Father says the real name of His son?

    HINT: There is actually a verse saying that G-d Himself gives a name to His son.
     
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    What more do you want? Do you want the writers of the Bible to give you God's Social Security Number, or His driver's liscense number. Maybe if I showed you a picture of the light shining down with a nametag on it saying, "Hello, my name is God." I mean, it's a bright light, too brilliant for human eyes to look at, shining down from the heavens (and it wasn't the sun, either), a dove (one of God's symbols, as it was used to show Noah that the flood was over) came down and landed on Jesus, and a loud, booming voice from heaven said, "This is my son, in whom I am well pleased." That's about as clear cut as it gets. The best you're gonna get is that every time in the New Testament that an angel spoke to somebody, it is specified that it wass, in fact, and angel speaking. When God appears, there's a bright light that nobody could look at, because God is too brilliant for human eyes to see, as was described in this passage. Nowhere in the Bible is anyone other than God described as being that brilliant, not even Jesus. I'm betting the reason they didn't write down that it was God is because they assumed everyone had already figured that out, and that it wasn't necessary to state it.
     
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    Question for Aj why do you spell God as G-d ? Just curious ? :afro:
     
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    He feels it's dishonor to God - as if he's not worth to spell or say God.. :) It's 'religion' ;)
     
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    I can respect that ... :)
    Thanks =d= :beer:
     
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    Sorry but a booming voice coming out of heaven does not say that the booming voice was G-d's voice.

    I am not asking for G-d's birth certificate, driver's license or SSN.

    Simply asking if GopJeff or you are aware of a biblical verse that states, 'G-d Himself says the name of his first born son' and in the same words that Jesus spoke and read in the synagogue during his time on earth?

    Again, not talking about voices from heaven (unknown entity) or oblique responses from Jesus about 'seeing G-d when seeing him' or a question like 'who do you think I am?'

    Again, it does exist in your King James Version of the NT.
     
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    It has something to do with the holiness of G-d being used not in a prayer or just using His name in vain (without a direct purpose.)

    Sorry but that is the way many write His name leaving one letter out and replaced with a (-).
     
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    Oh nothing wrong with that .. Just curious.. No flaming or insult intended !
    I actually find it interesting and never thought of it in that respect..
     

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