Putting Police Before A Jury Isn’t Necessarily A Bad Thing...

[evenflow1969]

Idk if you've ever been witness to a jury selection..but lemme tell ya. It is not weighted towards the defendant.
2/3 weighted towards the DA, whether right or wrong.

every change in the past forty years has gone to prosecutors advantage. we have allowed it. Even if you have a million dollars for defense the prosecution has more to fight you with. IDk how to get it back into balance but it needs done soon.It is funny how each side calls th eother side idiots on this issue when there is not a clear easy solution to balencing the rights of the accused with the need to protect the public. Maybe some things we can change is some of the sentancing. Like in Ohio if you get caught driving with an expired lisence you can get six months in jail and upto $1000. Kinda crazy on what can be given to you. I get arguments like they never dole that out. Well if it is never doled out why allow it to be that bad in the first place. Six months in jail is a large economic impact for forgetting to renew your drivers lisence. In some counties a six month sentance for some thing so stupid can be a death sentance. Many counties have gang problems in their jails. Some things need changed for sure.

 

[pknopp]

Idk if you've ever been witness to a jury selection..but lemme tell ya. It is not weighted towards the defendant.
2/3 weighted towards the DA, whether right or wrong.

every change in the past forty years has gone to prosecutors advantage. we have allowed it. Even if you have a million dollars for defense the prosecution has more to fight you with. IDk how to get it back into balance but it needs done soon.It is funny how each side calls th eother side idiots on this issue when there is not a clear easy solution to balencing the rights of the accused with the need to protect the public. Maybe some things we can change is some of the sentancing. Like in Ohio if you get caught driving with an expired lisence you can get six months in jail and upto $1000. Kinda crazy on what can be given to you. I get arguments like they never dole that out. Well if it is never doled out why allow it to be that bad in the first place. Six months in jail is a large economic impact for forgetting to renew your drivers lisence. In some counties a six month sentance for some thing so stupid can be a death sentance. Many counties have gang problems in their jails. Some things need changed for sure.

Why? Because then they will offer you $1000 fine and a suspended sentence and you agree to it. This is how they fund local governments.

So we cut back on local government. Tens of thousands lose their jobs. Then we have to actually address that. We might actually have to not be the world police and CEO's may not be able to get 100's times more than the employee's.

 

[evenflow1969]

Idk if you've ever been witness to a jury selection..but lemme tell ya. It is not weighted towards the defendant.
2/3 weighted towards the DA, whether right or wrong.

every change in the past forty years has gone to prosecutors advantage. we have allowed it. Even if you have a million dollars for defense the prosecution has more to fight you with. IDk how to get it back into balance but it needs done soon.It is funny how each side calls th eother side idiots on this issue when there is not a clear easy solution to balencing the rights of the accused with the need to protect the public. Maybe some things we can change is some of the sentancing. Like in Ohio if you get caught driving with an expired lisence you can get six months in jail and upto $1000. Kinda crazy on what can be given to you. I get arguments like they never dole that out. Well if it is never doled out why allow it to be that bad in the first place. Six months in jail is a large economic impact for forgetting to renew your drivers lisence. In some counties a six month sentance for some thing so stupid can be a death sentance. Many counties have gang problems in their jails. Some things need changed for sure.

Why? Because then they will offer you $1000 fine and a suspended sentence and you agree to it. This is how they fund local governments.

So we cut back on local government. Tens of thousands lose their jobs. Then we have to actually address that. We might actually have to not be the world police and CEO's may not be able to get 100's times more than the employee's.

ya you will not fight it because of what is on the table is to great a risk. you are indeed guilty until proven innocent. we as voters have allowed it. Call one a lib call one a conservative have them fight like hell while the government does what the hell it wants and no one gets held accountable.

 

[TheParser]

C'mon.

We all know that a jury in Atlanta (Atlanta!) will throw the book at that cop.

Here in Los Angeles, we all know that in the 1990s, some ladies on the jury decided to acquit a football player of murder because the ladies and the athlete had the same "background."

And if Trump's haters get their way, he will be put on trial in -- Washington, D.C.! Gosh, I wonder what the verdict would be!

 

[pknopp]

Idk if you've ever been witness to a jury selection..but lemme tell ya. It is not weighted towards the defendant.
2/3 weighted towards the DA, whether right or wrong.

every change in the past forty years has gone to prosecutors advantage. we have allowed it. Even if you have a million dollars for defense the prosecution has more to fight you with. IDk how to get it back into balance but it needs done soon.It is funny how each side calls th eother side idiots on this issue when there is not a clear easy solution to balencing the rights of the accused with the need to protect the public. Maybe some things we can change is some of the sentancing. Like in Ohio if you get caught driving with an expired lisence you can get six months in jail and upto $1000. Kinda crazy on what can be given to you. I get arguments like they never dole that out. Well if it is never doled out why allow it to be that bad in the first place. Six months in jail is a large economic impact for forgetting to renew your drivers lisence. In some counties a six month sentance for some thing so stupid can be a death sentance. Many counties have gang problems in their jails. Some things need changed for sure.

Why? Because then they will offer you $1000 fine and a suspended sentence and you agree to it. This is how they fund local governments.

So we cut back on local government. Tens of thousands lose their jobs. Then we have to actually address that. We might actually have to not be the world police and CEO's may not be able to get 100's times more than the employee's.

ya you will not fight it because of what is on the table is to great a risk. you are indeed guilty until proven innocent. we as voters have allowed it. Call one a lib call one a conservative have them fight like hell while the government does what the hell it wants and no one gets held accountable.

Sure, I don't disagree with that either. The government knows how easy it is to divide the people so they don't turn on the bigger problem.

 

[Norman]

Not accepting that the "system" was investigating the "system" is something many have been condemning for a long time. Simply allowing for a jury decide while good is still not enough.

While the "system" is no longer automatically determining innocent in every case now, it still needs to be completely taken out of their hands.

System investigating the system.


Justice will be heard any moment now.
--

It is up to the people to investigate the system.

 

[pknopp]

Not accepting that the "system" was investigating the "system" is something many have been condemning for a long time. Simply allowing for a jury decide while good is still not enough.

While the "system" is no longer automatically determining innocent in every case now, it still needs to be completely taken out of their hands.

System investigating the system.


Justice will be heard any moment now.
--

It is up to the people to investigate the system.

Seems they have to riot to get the ability to do that. The Founders understood that would become the case.

 

[Norman]

Not accepting that the "system" was investigating the "system" is something many have been condemning for a long time. Simply allowing for a jury decide while good is still not enough.

While the "system" is no longer automatically determining innocent in every case now, it still needs to be completely taken out of their hands.

System investigating the system.


Justice will be heard any moment now.
--

It is up to the people to investigate the system.

Seems they have to riot to get the ability to do that. The Founders understood that would become the case.

Riot? Riots targeted at innocent people that are orchestrated by the system is investigating the system?

You have some big difficulties with reason.

 

[pknopp]

Not accepting that the "system" was investigating the "system" is something many have been condemning for a long time. Simply allowing for a jury decide while good is still not enough.

While the "system" is no longer automatically determining innocent in every case now, it still needs to be completely taken out of their hands.

System investigating the system.


Justice will be heard any moment now.
--

It is up to the people to investigate the system.

Seems they have to riot to get the ability to do that. The Founders understood that would become the case.

Riot? Riots targeted at innocent people that are orchestrated by the system is investigating the system?

You have some big difficulties with reason.

I get it. Your laws and ideas of justice are only for the white's.

 

[Norman]

Not accepting that the "system" was investigating the "system" is something many have been condemning for a long time. Simply allowing for a jury decide while good is still not enough.

While the "system" is no longer automatically determining innocent in every case now, it still needs to be completely taken out of their hands.

System investigating the system.


Justice will be heard any moment now.
--

It is up to the people to investigate the system.

Seems they have to riot to get the ability to do that. The Founders understood that would become the case.

Riot? Riots targeted at innocent people that are orchestrated by the system is investigating the system?

You have some big difficulties with reason.

I get it. Your laws and ideas of justice are only for the white's.

My idea of justice is the American idea.

Your idea of justice is reminiscent of Congo, riot and loot against innocent people, supposedly solving a problem.