Pulling Back the Curtain on the Ugly GOP

[bedowin62]

and blocking a bill isnt cutting a budget you idiot. you're own source tells you that

 

[bedowin62]

EXACTLY!!!

libs are such idiots. so is this left-wing idiot saying (admitting?) the whole "indictment" was to get her to resign? Because if she had committed such a grievous offense(s) meriting criminal charges, then why wasn't she indicted whether she resigned or not?

The Alaska news papers no longer pursued it and the Republican AG shockingly lost interest when the press did.

only the "Alaska news" lost interest??

OR maybe they had nothing and you're a silly but typical left-wing idiot who thinks just making an accusation makes something true, engaging in laughable Palinphobia?

Palin (aka Sarah-cuda) who once said that the difference between Hockey Moms (like her) and pit bulls was lipstick resigned in disgrace because they had nothing on her.

Listen...you believe what you want to believe but at some point, you've got to stop lying to yourself. It's what grown ups do.

I, for one, would welcome her back with open arms to any GOP function she wishes to attend. Every second of exposure from her is a net positive for the Democrats and the center-left.

She is a moron.

she doesnt know you exist; doesnt care what you say about her even if she saw it
you're obsessed with her; she couldnt care less what you think.

but she is richer than you, more well-known, and you're whining about her on a message board

Wow...that was pathetic but I'm sure you have a lot of shortcomings. Its just one of many.

you're the one whining about somebody that doesnt know you exist. who's pathetic?

 

[candycorn]

Its always interesting to go back a ways and see who said what at the time. I heard there was

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Trump is going to be short-lived as a presidential candidate and his television career is over. I think you are right he will fade to obscurity now.

What he said about McCain is so over the top disgusting it strikes all Americans as such, as you also noted. Rather bizarre and very telling that John Kerry immediately came to McCain's defense but when Kerry was getting swiftboated McCain was silent.

Character reveals itself in the most trying moment. And lack thereof as well.

In fairness Mc Cain called the attack on Kerry as “dishonest and dishonorable” and told the White house to do the same.

McCain deplores anti-Kerry ad - politics NBC News

The thing is Jeb is trying to criticise Trump when his own brother did it twice first to McCain and then to Kerry.

It tells you how two faced the GOP when they say support the troops, but hey they will cut veteran budgets all day.

except that they didnt cut the veteran's budget.

Just close your eyes and pretend it didn't happen
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans health bill on budget worry Reuters

pretend you know what you're talking about idiot
dems put poison pills in bills
and it was NOT "paid for" like Dems insisted it was

try again

Oh, so the GOP had other priorities....they could have passed it but they had other concerns.

 

[candycorn]

The Alaska news papers no longer pursued it and the Republican AG shockingly lost interest when the press did.

only the "Alaska news" lost interest??

OR maybe they had nothing and you're a silly but typical left-wing idiot who thinks just making an accusation makes something true, engaging in laughable Palinphobia?

Palin (aka Sarah-cuda) who once said that the difference between Hockey Moms (like her) and pit bulls was lipstick resigned in disgrace because they had nothing on her.

Listen...you believe what you want to believe but at some point, you've got to stop lying to yourself. It's what grown ups do.

I, for one, would welcome her back with open arms to any GOP function she wishes to attend. Every second of exposure from her is a net positive for the Democrats and the center-left.

She is a moron.

she doesnt know you exist; doesnt care what you say about her even if she saw it
you're obsessed with her; she couldnt care less what you think.

but she is richer than you, more well-known, and you're whining about her on a message board

Wow...that was pathetic but I'm sure you have a lot of shortcomings. Its just one of many.

you're the one whining about somebody that doesnt know you exist. who's pathetic?

You.

You're arguing with a stranger on the Internet (and losing badly). Yes, you're the pathetic one.

 

[Geaux4it]

only the "Alaska news" lost interest??

OR maybe they had nothing and you're a silly but typical left-wing idiot who thinks just making an accusation makes something true, engaging in laughable Palinphobia?

Palin (aka Sarah-cuda) who once said that the difference between Hockey Moms (like her) and pit bulls was lipstick resigned in disgrace because they had nothing on her.

Listen...you believe what you want to believe but at some point, you've got to stop lying to yourself. It's what grown ups do.

I, for one, would welcome her back with open arms to any GOP function she wishes to attend. Every second of exposure from her is a net positive for the Democrats and the center-left.

She is a moron.

she doesnt know you exist; doesnt care what you say about her even if she saw it
you're obsessed with her; she couldnt care less what you think.

but she is richer than you, more well-known, and you're whining about her on a message board

Wow...that was pathetic but I'm sure you have a lot of shortcomings. Its just one of many.

you're the one whining about somebody that doesnt know you exist. who's pathetic?

You.

You're arguing with a stranger on the Internet (and losing badly). Yes, you're the pathetic one.

I disagree sir, you're on the ropes and we're about ready to call a TKO for you

Standing by

-Geaux

 

[bedowin62]

"losing badly"

left-wing losers always convince themselves they are winning

 

[CowboyTed]

John McCain will go down in the history books as one of the better US Senators of his time, a war hero, and an effective legislator. Donald Trump will likely be rich until the day he passes from this earth into whatever oblivion in the afterlife awaits him and those that bother to remember him will remember his failed presidential bid and what an ass he made of himself for a brief time in the Summer of 2015. Neither man will suffer any long term effects of Mr. Trump's moronic statements. The true damage of what Donald Trump said about war hero John McCain was to further reveal the true thoughts of the GOP rank and file.

This doesn't fade so easily. If John McCain were not such a distinguished Republican, one may easily chalk it up to his being "yesterday's news" and that failed candidates in the Genral usually enjoy no second act (see Mitt Romney and Al Gore for reference). The hard-right doesn't like McCain being a member of that "gang of eight" who sought to rise above politics and negotiate an immigration bill.

For a clue of why it is more than that, you can look at that bill and see one of it's other authors, Marco Rubio, suffers little in the way of hard right angst. So what is it about this episode that does so much damage? For the answer, consider Rubio. Rubio is a candidate for President whereas McCain is not this time around. Rubio still has the chance to thwart a presidential bid by Hillary Clinton so he cannot be cast asunder so quickly as McCain has been. And there inlies the problem. It isn't that what Trump says has any basis in reality. Any grown-up knows this is the case. Anyone who saw combat has taken heroic stances for their nation. Captured combat soldiers hold a special place of reverence for Americans of all political stripes. What Mr. Trump did was say something to get more TV cameras pointed in his direction. Ordinarily, such a brazen publicity grab would be greeted with cynnacism and ridicule. However, Trump still has the ability to cause the President some discomfort and peril for Clinton--the presumptive Democratic nominee. So, for the same reasons as Rubio, the rank and file suspend the counsel of the better angels of their nature and decide to applaud Trump because he can do some damage to the other side; maybe.

Republicans cannot pretend to just be "letting the process" play out when Donald Trump is topping polls. Nor can they deny they feel this way about McCain and Mexicans ("Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border. The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world.").

Hillary Clinton has a likability problem that she has worked hard to correct. She is not running a campaign based on enevitability or a presumption of such. She has learned from her mistakes. Still, she will need the votes of independents to become the next President. Independents are looking and they are seeing a Party that seems more interested in stoking the fires of bigotry, anger and hatred than steering the ship of State to any greater future. Trump could care less. The cameras are pointed at him and that is all he is interested in.

Trump is going to be short-lived as a presidential candidate and his television career is over. I think you are right he will fade to obscurity now.

What he said about McCain is so over the top disgusting it strikes all Americans as such, as you also noted. Rather bizarre and very telling that John Kerry immediately came to McCain's defense but when Kerry was getting swiftboated McCain was silent.

Character reveals itself in the most trying moment. And lack thereof as well.

In fairness Mc Cain called the attack on Kerry as “dishonest and dishonorable” and told the White house to do the same.

McCain deplores anti-Kerry ad - politics NBC News

The thing is Jeb is trying to criticise Trump when his own brother did it twice first to McCain and then to Kerry.

It tells you how two faced the GOP when they say support the troops, but hey they will cut veteran budgets all day.

except that they didnt cut the veteran's budget.

Just close your eyes and pretend it didn't happen
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans health bill on budget worry Reuters

pretend you know what you're talking about idiot
dems put poison pills in bills
and it was NOT "paid for" like Dems insisted it was

try again

Read the fucking thing moron...

"With Democrats pressing for passage this week, Senate Republicans, backed by their leader, Mitch McConnell, attempted to attach controversial legislation calling for possible new sanctions on Iran that President Barack Obama opposes."

Who introduced what?

 

[bedowin62]

Its always interesting to go back a ways and see who said what at the time. I heard there was

Trump is going to be short-lived as a presidential candidate and his television career is over. I think you are right he will fade to obscurity now.

What he said about McCain is so over the top disgusting it strikes all Americans as such, as you also noted. Rather bizarre and very telling that John Kerry immediately came to McCain's defense but when Kerry was getting swiftboated McCain was silent.

Character reveals itself in the most trying moment. And lack thereof as well.

In fairness Mc Cain called the attack on Kerry as “dishonest and dishonorable” and told the White house to do the same.

McCain deplores anti-Kerry ad - politics NBC News

The thing is Jeb is trying to criticise Trump when his own brother did it twice first to McCain and then to Kerry.

It tells you how two faced the GOP when they say support the troops, but hey they will cut veteran budgets all day.

except that they didnt cut the veteran's budget.

Just close your eyes and pretend it didn't happen
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans health bill on budget worry Reuters

pretend you know what you're talking about idiot
dems put poison pills in bills
and it was NOT "paid for" like Dems insisted it was

try again

Oh, so the GOP had other priorities....they could have passed it but they had other concerns.

yes dummy; priorities like making sure it's paid for. and doesnt include things like amnesty for illegals; wich Dems have put in troop-funding bills at least twice

try again

 

[candycorn]

"losing badly"

left-wing losers always convince themselves they are winning

332-206; convincing enough.
As for palin,
As a politician she is finished. She has proven herself incapable of holding office.

Yet here you are singing her praises.

 

[candycorn]

Its always interesting to go back a ways and see who said what at the time. I heard there was

In fairness Mc Cain called the attack on Kerry as “dishonest and dishonorable” and told the White house to do the same.

McCain deplores anti-Kerry ad - politics NBC News

The thing is Jeb is trying to criticise Trump when his own brother did it twice first to McCain and then to Kerry.

It tells you how two faced the GOP when they say support the troops, but hey they will cut veteran budgets all day.

except that they didnt cut the veteran's budget.

Just close your eyes and pretend it didn't happen
U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans health bill on budget worry Reuters

pretend you know what you're talking about idiot
dems put poison pills in bills
and it was NOT "paid for" like Dems insisted it was

try again

Oh, so the GOP had other priorities....they could have passed it but they had other concerns.

yes dummy; priorities like making sure it's paid for. and doesnt include things like amnesty for illegals; wich Dems have put in troop-funding bills at least twice

try again

Too bad they didn't do that in Iraq....or with Bush's TARP plan to bail out the banks. It's clear that the GOP cares more about banks than troops.

 

[CowboyTed]

and blocking a bill isnt cutting a budget you idiot. you're own source tells you that

How 1.4 billion in budget cuts will impact Veterans - VAntage Point

That is a committee with GOP Majority chaired by Cochran.... Well done...

But lets look why the Veterans are so stretched.... Ahh! Some idiot decided to invade a country under lies...

 

[bedowin62]

and blocking a bill isnt cutting a budget you idiot. you're own source tells you that

How 1.4 billion in budget cuts will impact Veterans - VAntage Point

That is a committee with GOP Majority chaired by Cochran.... Well done...

But lets look why the Veterans are so stretched.... Ahh! Some idiot decided to invade a country under lies...

you sad idiot. first of all a reduction in the rate of increase isnt a cut. Second; you had 13 years almost to prove we invaded "under lies". you morons keep failing and just keep spewing stupidity and talking points you cant back up

try again

 

[bedowin62]

our CURRENT budget was cut by the SEQUESTER that obama, on live TV;promised to veto any attempts to undo, by EITHER PARTY. it was never supposed to happen; why would republicans cut the military? dont you idiots say we love the "military industrial complex". the Sequester was SUPPOSED to be an agreement IN CONGRESS between Dems and Repubs with both sides putting up something they DIDNT want cut as an act of good faith. obama and dems took it as a chance to cut the military they loathe and that's how the military budget got cut by more than 40%
you idiots just lie.......................TO YOURSELVES