Protestors tell Trump ‘Bolt ya Nugget’ and to ‘Get in the Bin’

[barryqwalsh]

Among the placards carried by campaigners were messages against the US president’s policies including “Give the weans Irn Bru not iron cages” while others urged him to go home, with signs saying “Bolt ya rocket and make Scotland great again”.


In pictures: Protestors tell Trump ‘Bolt ya Nugget’ and to ‘Get in the Bin’

 

[fncceo]

“Give the weans Irn Bru not iron cages”

Not as catchy as '54 40 or fight', but cute.

 

[harmonica]

and the French hated Churchill for attacking the French fleet/etc
sometimes you have to do things that are not easy--not what everyone wants--things that are ''painful'' --yet the right thing to do
Operation Catapult: Naval Destruction at Mers-el-Kebir | HistoryNet

 

[shockedcanadian]

and the French hated Churchill for attacking the French fleet/etc

There is an interesting detail in that actually, many of the French never forgave the Brits for that, and, even many of the British soldiers who survived to this day break out in tears about that attack, it haunts them. It is a very tricky situation and most regrettable that it had to be done, since the French had a very powerful navy themselves, Churchill had little choice. He couldn't risk the French keeping their words re: destroying their vessels.

The French, like any military power were proud and refused to have demands placed on them. Churchill gave them options, "you can join the Brits, you can leave European waters and remain neutral (probably with British intentions of convincing to rejoin the fight afterwards), or, face destruction.

Of course, the risk was that Germany would get these ships, the French Head Admiral gave his word that they would never give the ships to Germany, and would die to defend them, in fact, the French DID keep their word and destroyed the remaining ships to the outrage of the Germans when they attempted to grab them at a future time. So, the belief is that these ships didn't need to be sunk, according to a great documentary I saw. Of course, Churchill could not have known this, nor taken the chance. The Germans were already vastly superior militarily, except their navy, and the Brits couldn't allow them such might.

I think it was irresponsible for the French to place that much pride ahead of the situation, but, on the other hand, they were warriors to the end. Over 1000 French killed, and it created a serious riff between the two nations, a serious betrayal which lasts in some sectors to this day.

There is also a theory that the Americans decided to give the English assistance after this attack as it signaled to them that they were deathly serious about fighting on, unlike the French who were overrun quickly (don't believe all of the history, the French did fight, and Churchill knew he was asking them to hold on longer than possible, at some point he knew it was all empty words to the French leaders that they could win). So, it's one of many insane stories in a most insane and unnecessary war.

 

[harmonica]

and the French hated Churchill for attacking the French fleet/etc

There is an interesting detail in that actually, many of the French never forgave the Brits for that, and, even many of the British soldiers who survived to this day break out in tears about that attack, it haunts them. It is a very tricky situation and most regrettable that it had to be done, since the French had a very powerful navy themselves, Churchill had little choice. He couldn't risk the French keeping their words re: destroying their vessels.

The French, like any military power were proud and refused to have demands placed on them. Churchill gave them options, "you can join the Brits, you can leave European waters and remain neutral (probably with British intentions of convincing to rejoin the fight afterwards), or, face destruction.

Of course, the risk was that Germany would get these ships, the French Head Admiral gave his word that they would never give the ships to Germany, and would die to defend them, in fact, the French DID keep their word and destroyed the remaining ships to the outrage of the Germans when they attempted to grab them at a future time. So, the belief is that these ships didn't need to be sunk, according to a great documentary I saw. Of course, Churchill could not have known this, nor taken the chance. The Germans were already vastly superior militarily, except their navy, and the Brits couldn't allow them such might.

I think it was irresponsible for the French to place that much pride ahead of the situation, but, on the other hand, they were warriors to the end. Over 1000 French killed, and it created a serious riff between the two nations, a serious betrayal which lasts in some sectors to this day.

There is also a theory that the Americans decided to give the English assistance after this attack as it signaled to them that they were deathly serious about fighting on, unlike the French who were overrun quickly (don't believe all of the history, the French did fight, and Churchill knew he was asking them to hold on longer than possible, at some point he knew it was all empty words to the French leaders that they could win). So, it's one of many insane stories in a most insane and unnecessary war.

sometimes you gotta do what you have to do
no matter how unpleasant
Trump is doing some ''unpleasant'' things--just as Churchill had to

war/humans killing humans/hunting/ humans/hurting other humans is ''insane'' but it is a human ''trait''

 

[barryqwalsh]

A former Downing Street official had told the Huffington Post the US president “totally hates” the First Minister.

The “president continually takes up valuable phone time attacking the Scottish First Minister," they said.

They added that it is because she “has made clear her loathing of his politics”, and also because “her predecessor fell out with Trump over his golf course developments".



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