Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019

[zaangalewa]

... Soviet Russia supplied Nazi Germany with most of its oil, and gas reserves in WW2. ...

And from which planet do you come? Eridani IV?

So, now facts make you from another planet?

German–Soviet Credit Agreement (1939) - Wikipedia

German–Soviet Commercial Agreement (1940) - Wikipedia

I do not read this. Tell me what you try to speak about, madman.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

... Soviet Russia supplied Nazi Germany with most of its oil, and gas reserves in WW2. ...

And from which planet do you come? Eridani IV?

So, now facts make you from another planet?

German–Soviet Credit Agreement (1939) - Wikipedia

German–Soviet Commercial Agreement (1940) - Wikipedia

I do not read this. Tell me what you try to speak about, madman.

That Soviets supplied Nazi Germans raw materials, including fuel.

Why do we wish to attempt to potentially repeat history with Nord Stream?

 

[zaangalewa]

Poland is belly up. Buy it ...or.. take it...

The World would be a better place if Germany & Russia were made permanent Vassal states of Poland.

Which was likely in the Renaissance, Poland turned the Teutons into a Vassal state in the 1400's, and temporarily conquered Russia in 1610.

Poland could've worked with Turks to Partition Germans, but instead Poles rescued Germans at Vienna with Sobieski in 1683.

Germans have no respect, even Animals respect kindness more than German savages.

You think the Ottomans would have spared Poland? That´s naive. All you would have got is a 10 year truce.
Referring to your last sentence I can only say that you don´t know what you are talking about.

German Prussia had a 1790 Alliance with Poland.
They breached it, to invade Poland, for such a silly reason as Poland having the first European Enlightened Philosophical Constitution signed on May 3rd in 1791.

No, they didn´t invade Poland. Russia did. Prussia did not help Poland but Russia, however.
You cannot, and I mean it, dethrone the nobility and then expect their help. And I don´t mean the constitution wasn´t a good thing back then.

Germans cannot be trusted by Poles.

Too many alliances, and pacts broken with Germans invading Poland.

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- Siege of Gdansk in the early 1200's when German Teutons invited in as "Friends" of Poland to help with Denmark, had sacked & mass murder Polish city Gdansk.

- 1790 Alliance with Poland & German Prussia breached with the Partitions of Poland.

- 1933 non-Aggression Pact between Poland & Nazi Germany breached with the 1939 invasion.

The word "Teuton" and "deutsch" have absolutelly nothing to do with each other. And what you call "non-agression pact" was the Hitler-Stalin pact from the year 1939. Hitler and Stalin agreed in the secret part of this pact to eliminate Poland and started in this way world war 2. But Hitler did not stop in Poland. And Prussia did not only eliminate Poland - it overtook step by step also all countries of Germany and made them to "colonies of Prussia", until in 1870 the Prussian king became emperor over Germany in Versailles (and not emperor of Germany).

 

[zaangalewa]

... Soviet Russia supplied Nazi Germany with most of its oil, and gas reserves in WW2. ...

And from which planet do you come? Eridani IV?

So, now facts make you from another planet?

German–Soviet Credit Agreement (1939) - Wikipedia

German–Soviet Commercial Agreement (1940) - Wikipedia

I do not read this. Tell me what you try to speak about, madman.

That Soviets supplied Nazi Germans raw materials, including fuel.

That's totally stupid.

Why do we wish to attempt to potentially repeat history with Nord Stream?

Who is "we" and what do you have to do with the project Nord Stream 2?

 

[zaangalewa]

For whom why important and what do you call "political cooperation"?

For Eastern Europe. Because this cooperation ends bad for some countries.
Under 'political' cooperation I mean for example the Alliance of Three Black Eagles which resulted in the demolishing of Polish statehood.

do not have any idea why US-Americans don't have manners. To answer a question with a question is an extreme discourtesy. Tell me which costs other nations have and then I will try to answer this question.

Actually, my question had an answer in itself. Economic cooperation between Russia and Germany (in this case building a pipeline) hurts economic interests of Ukraine (and Slovakia alike).

And now tell me, why to build another pipeline if there is a pipe going throw these countries with needed infrastructure?

What's your nationality and why do you discuss US-American pseudo-politics between Germany and the USA with a German? Why do you care about this problem?

I am from Ukraine.
Firstly, I am on a political forum.
Secondly. The US policy towards Germany and Russia affect the country where I live.

It helps your country when the USA is doing war against Germany and Russia, Ruthene? (Ruthene is a 200 years old German word for Ukrainians and Russians)

 

[ESay]

For whom why important and what do you call "political cooperation"?

For Eastern Europe. Because this cooperation ends bad for some countries.
Under 'political' cooperation I mean for example the Alliance of Three Black Eagles which resulted in the demolishing of Polish statehood.

do not have any idea why US-Americans don't have manners. To answer a question with a question is an extreme discourtesy. Tell me which costs other nations have and then I will try to answer this question.

Actually, my question had an answer in itself. Economic cooperation between Russia and Germany (in this case building a pipeline) hurts economic interests of Ukraine (and Slovakia alike).

And now tell me, why to build another pipeline if there is a pipe going throw these countries with needed infrastructure?

What's your nationality and why do you discuss US-American pseudo-politics between Germany and the USA with a German? Why do you care about this problem?

I am from Ukraine.
Firstly, I am on a political forum.
Secondly. The US policy towards Germany and Russia affect the country where I live.

It helps your country when the USA is doing war against Germany and Russia, Ruthene? (Ruthene is a 200 years old German word for Ukrainians and Russians)

No one in common sense wants a war with Russia and Germany. But I trust neither Russians nor Germans. And East Europeans should find a way to protect themselves from these two possible enemies.

I know what Ruthene means, thanks.

Btw, you wrote about American bad manners. Is it OK in Germany not to answer questions? (About the pipe I dare to remind).

 

[Bleipriester]

To enforce our Energy Security the US regime is enacting a law that aims at stopping the construction of pipelines. That sounds conflicting? It is. The US once again plays world government that has the right to stop business it doesn´t agree to. We need to impose severe sanctions on that regime that treats us like colonies. We need to stop all business with few exceptions until Washington respects our sovereignty.
The law is expected to be enacted this year.
The Trump regime is just an evil protection money mafia and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

All Info - S.1441 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019

Related:
Obama regime already built the assets to transfer US natural gas to Europe

Possible alliance of Germany with Russia is a bad thing for Eastern Europe. Their cooperation should be thwarted as much as possible.

Though, the Nord Stream 2 will be finished anyway.

And what do you do with the other two pipelines after you had erased Germany and Russia from this planet?

I would applaud your your post if your Germany wasn´t a boy fucking caliphate.

 

[zaangalewa]

To enforce our Energy Security the US regime is enacting a law that aims at stopping the construction of pipelines. That sounds conflicting? It is. The US once again plays world government that has the right to stop business it doesn´t agree to. We need to impose severe sanctions on that regime that treats us like colonies. We need to stop all business with few exceptions until Washington respects our sovereignty.
The law is expected to be enacted this year.
The Trump regime is just an evil protection money mafia and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

All Info - S.1441 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019

Related:
Obama regime already built the assets to transfer US natural gas to Europe

Possible alliance of Germany with Russia is a bad thing for Eastern Europe. Their cooperation should be thwarted as much as possible.

Though, the Nord Stream 2 will be finished anyway.

And what do you do with the other two pipelines after you had erased Germany and Russia from this planet?

I would applaud your your post if your Germany wasn´t a boy fucking caliphate.

I have not any idea what kind of caricature of what kind of mass-murering idiocy you are, anti-German.

 

[zaangalewa]

For whom why important and what do you call "political cooperation"?

For Eastern Europe. Because this cooperation ends bad for some countries.
Under 'political' cooperation I mean for example the Alliance of Three Black Eagles which resulted in the demolishing of Polish statehood.

do not have any idea why US-Americans don't have manners. To answer a question with a question is an extreme discourtesy. Tell me which costs other nations have and then I will try to answer this question.

Actually, my question had an answer in itself. Economic cooperation between Russia and Germany (in this case building a pipeline) hurts economic interests of Ukraine (and Slovakia alike).

And now tell me, why to build another pipeline if there is a pipe going throw these countries with needed infrastructure?

What's your nationality and why do you discuss US-American pseudo-politics between Germany and the USA with a German? Why do you care about this problem?

I am from Ukraine.
Firstly, I am on a political forum.
Secondly. The US policy towards Germany and Russia affect the country where I live.

It helps your country when the USA is doing war against Germany and Russia, Ruthene? (Ruthene is a 200 years old German word for Ukrainians and Russians)

No one in common sense wants a war with Russia and Germany.

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

But I trust neither Russians nor Germans.

But you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

And East Europeans should find a way to protect themselves from these two possible enemies.[Quiote]

It were not Germans, who sold the East European nations to the Soviets - it was the USA, ther ally of Stalin . Nevertherless they love the USA because they gave big hope during teh toem of cold war. Bur this hope leaded often into very difficult situations too. A titanic military machinery stood for example in 1968 at the border of Chechosslovakia and was able to do nothing, when the Soviets stopped the "socialism with a human heart" of their slawic sister people.

I know what Ruthene means, thanks.

Then you know how diffcult it is to separate "Ruthens" and "Ruthens" - or Ucrainians and Russians. The whole situaiaons is very paradox and is not really solvable woith weapons. 13,000 of the brothers and sisters of your Ruthens died meanwhile in this conflict. Holy heavends, where is your justice?

Btw, you wrote about American bad manners.

I'm tired about the empty phraseology of US-Amercians. I expect a little more from them. But oOthers don't have manners at all.

[QUote ]Is it OK in Germany not to answer questions? (About the pipe I dare to remind).

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

This pipeline - Nord Stream 2 - minimizes just simple the risks of the energy supply of Europe. The "argument" of the US-congress they fight for the Europeans and Germans against Europe and Germany is just simple one of their moralistic "Red-Indian-war" arguments. They know very well that Germany has always a very big strategic reserve in energy and no one is able to press Germany in such a question. They use this now to isolate Germany within Europe. They fight just simple against Europe (in the name of Europeans) and like to sell their fluid gas in Germany. The Ukraine is in this context only a pawn sacrifice for the USA - they try to maximize the problems there and do not try to minimize it, because in this way they are able to isolate Russia. In their totally strange view to the world they think, who is isolated from their economic system is weak - and they follow the most stupid rule of dying empires "divide et impera": The interest of the USA is not the Ukraine - it is the conflict between Russia and the Ukraine. They have as less an interest to stop this conflict as the Russians have. The Russians seek lost strength, the USA seeks lost strength.

And the politicians of the Ukraine had on their own also not any interest to stop this conflict too. I guess this changed now with your president Selenskyj. He seems to be an integer person fighting against such and other corrupt structures, which keep you down. I fear this is the main reason why Donald Trump tried to corrupt him.

 

[ESay]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

 

[zaangalewa]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

 

[Bleipriester]

To enforce our Energy Security the US regime is enacting a law that aims at stopping the construction of pipelines. That sounds conflicting? It is. The US once again plays world government that has the right to stop business it doesn´t agree to. We need to impose severe sanctions on that regime that treats us like colonies. We need to stop all business with few exceptions until Washington respects our sovereignty.
The law is expected to be enacted this year.
The Trump regime is just an evil protection money mafia and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

All Info - S.1441 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019

Related:
Obama regime already built the assets to transfer US natural gas to Europe

Possible alliance of Germany with Russia is a bad thing for Eastern Europe. Their cooperation should be thwarted as much as possible.

Though, the Nord Stream 2 will be finished anyway.

And what do you do with the other two pipelines after you had erased Germany and Russia from this planet?

I would applaud your your post if your Germany wasn´t a boy fucking caliphate.

I have not any idea what kind of caricature of what kind of mass-murering idiocy you are, anti-German.

Throw a party as you never will figure it out.

 

[ESay]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe. Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests. A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia. Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean? I am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

 

[zaangalewa]

To enforce our Energy Security the US regime is enacting a law that aims at stopping the construction of pipelines. That sounds conflicting? It is. The US once again plays world government that has the right to stop business it doesn´t agree to. We need to impose severe sanctions on that regime that treats us like colonies. We need to stop all business with few exceptions until Washington respects our sovereignty.
The law is expected to be enacted this year.
The Trump regime is just an evil protection money mafia and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

All Info - S.1441 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019

Related:
Obama regime already built the assets to transfer US natural gas to Europe

Possible alliance of Germany with Russia is a bad thing for Eastern Europe. Their cooperation should be thwarted as much as possible.

Though, the Nord Stream 2 will be finished anyway.

And what do you do with the other two pipelines after you had erased Germany and Russia from this planet?

I would applaud your your post if your Germany wasn´t a boy fucking caliphate.

I have not any idea what kind of caricature of what kind of mass-murering idiocy you are, anti-German.

Throw a party as you never will figure it out.

No idea what you like to say with this sentence. It is not translatable from me into my own German language. You speak damned "undeutschlich", anti-German.

 

[Bleipriester]

Possible alliance of Germany with Russia is a bad thing for Eastern Europe. Their cooperation should be thwarted as much as possible.

Though, the Nord Stream 2 will be finished anyway.

And what do you do with the other two pipelines after you had erased Germany and Russia from this planet?

I would applaud your your post if your Germany wasn´t a boy fucking caliphate.

I have not any idea what kind of caricature of what kind of mass-murering idiocy you are, anti-German.

Throw a party as you never will figure it out.

No idea what you like to say with this sentence. It is not translatable from me into my own German language. You speak damned "undeutschlich", anti-German.

You frequently appear to not being able to get what other people want to tell you.

 

[Bleipriester]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe. Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests. A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia. Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean? I am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

We need stronger policies to ensure European unity. For example countries that are in our union cannot be slaves of other countries. They cannot demand reparations when they have wasted their money. A union is a strong commitment and there cannot be exceptions.

 

[zaangalewa]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe.

Do you?

Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests.

Sounds strange and pathetic. I hope Europe will always find good solutions.

A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia.

Or with other words: You spoke nonsense.

Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You forgot to say "and with many different languages". Are you sure you are not an US-American, who thinks the EU is a kind of little USA, which never will work?

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean?

Thsi means it is as well European and Russian.

i am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

Sure has Germany no guts to go against Russia. Never had.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

Which separatists? Separatists from Putins grace or from the ungrace of the Ukraine? Who are this people and what do they want, if they exist real and are not only a political manipulation? And what has this to do with the cheeky declaration of war of the US-congress (=the political parties "democrats" and "republicans" of the USA) against Germany with the very brainless "Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019"?

 

[zaangalewa]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe. Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests. A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia. Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean? I am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

We need stronger policies to ensure European unity. For example countries that are in our union cannot be slaves of other countries. They cannot demand reparations when they have wasted their money. A union is a strong commitment and there cannot be exceptions.

You are a criminal Nazi, who propagates mass-muder. You would murder him together with all politicians, all refugees and all members of NGO's, who help refugees. This is your personal declaration of extremistic stupidity in times of terrorism. You should be happy that you are still not in jail, anti-German.

 

[Bleipriester]

I spoke about a war of the USA against Germany and Russia - or against Europe and Russia.

Yes, and I wrote about that.

you trust in the USA, Kurd. The Russians are by the way often more reliable partners than others in the world.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

Just simple: The pipeline through the Ukraine had always caused problems. Specially because the Ukraine tried to press always everyone by stopping the transfer. We started this project once with Russia decades ago. No one will stop it now in the last few miles, only because of some problems. Currently the USA drives toally crazy in international poitics and makes economic wars (which are abe to become very fast real wars) against Russia, China and Europe as well as against single companies and single persons - with the power of a might in the size of a continent.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe. Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests. A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia. Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean? I am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

We need stronger policies to ensure European unity. For example countries that are in our union cannot be slaves of other countries. They cannot demand reparations when they have wasted their money. A union is a strong commitment and there cannot be exceptions.

You are a criminal Nazi, who propagates mass-muder. You would murder him together with all politicians, all refugees and all members of NGO's, who help refugees. This is your personal declaration of extremistic stupidity in times of terrorism. You should be happy that you are still not in jail, anti-German.

Wen?

 

[zaangalewa]

Yes, and I wrote about that.

Not for Ukraine. Russia's idea fix will always be a gathering if 'Russian' lands.

The first idea of a trilateral consortium was proposed by Ukraine in the times of Kuchma, IIRC. Russia declined this, because they wanted to 'unite' Naftogas with Gazprom, which would virtually mean total a absorption of Naftogas in practice.

Also, Ukraine has constantly proposed to change the 'transfer point' from Ukraine-Slovak border to Ukraine-Russian border. In this case the Europeans would be able to make deals with Ukraine about gas transit. Russia has constantly declined this.

For me exists the problem that the USA is on the way to a third world war - under misuse of nuclear weapons. One step on this way seems to be to eliminate the European Union - and Germany too. In combination with this problem exist also astonishhing many problems in the ¿dying? democracies of Europe - for example the Polish democracy - or the democracy in Hungaria - and even Great Britain was manipulated in many ways from US-Americans on their way to the Brexit. And the way, how GB was endless discussing always only about this theme (in a totally irrealistic way while GB forgot everyhting else in this context). I hate it very much that 13,000 Ruthens died in the conflict around the Ukraine (if this is really true, what I do not know, because truth dies first in weaponed conflicts) - but I am also realistic enough to know, that no one cares in the whole world about this (as it also never cared anyone, how many Germans died during world war 2 or how many Germans today will die in the conflicts around the world). The Ukraine needs a way together with Russia and the European Union. Unfortunatelly produces the USA and Russia - but China too - in the moment so many international problems, that no one is able to think any longer consequently about all this multi-dimensional problems. They all fight for personal and national might and money - but not for the survival of planet Earth and the survival of all human beings in dignity.

It's clear to me that a citizen of the Ukraine likes to fight against every project with Russia - Nord Stream 2 in this context here. It helps Russia - it helps Germany. But it costs the Ukraine nothing. Russia had no problem not to sell or to sell any natural gas to anyone. Germany had no problem to take completely different solutions. But we speak with each other, make a project together and we have to take regard on each other in case of this business - or any other business. That's the deeper reason for international business at all. And a Russian-Ukrainian conflict is absolutelly not in any interest of Germany.

So because the congress of the USA tries to destroy this project (from the year 1995) this will affect not Russians and Germans. But it destroys every trust in the USA. So why likes the congress of the USA the idea that all Germans will have to mistrust the USA? The politicians of the USA grow to become a victim of their own empty phrases. Oh by the way: If you remember world war 1: All militarists of the world, who were on the side of the winners and often also some of the losers, were proud to win this war against Germany and the multi-national Austrian and Ottoman empire. But not any of the solutions of world war 1 kept stable. Everything exploded - for example Yugoslavia. So I would say it's worth the effort to try to solve problems without violence - without war and/or civil war. And you should not forget that Russia is a very efficient nuclear power. An intensifcation of the problems around the Ukraine is nonsense. To try to decide in Washington what's the best for the USA in the Ukraine against Germany, against Europe and against Russia is perhaps a nice game in the USA. But to try to find out what's really the best for the Ukraine is for sure not in any thoughts of the political conformistic thoughts of the egocentralized US-Americans in the congress of the USA during Christmas tide of the year 2019 AD.

I no less than you want to see prosperous, democratic Europe. Europe without conflicts between the states. With common goals and common interests. A united Europe with common external policy for the benefit for each other.

But unfortunately this is utopia. Too many nations with their own history, economic development, mentality, perception of the world.

You said Ukraine should find a way together with Russia and the EU. What does it mean? I am in favor of Ukraine be part of the EU or EEA, but I am strongly against of Ukraine being part of a Russia-leading union, to say nothing about being part of Russia.

I have strong doubts that Russia has abolished plans about joining Ukraine to its bloc. And I have strong doubts that the Germans and French (to say nothing about other West Europeans) have guts to go against Russia's will in that.

I also want the conflict in Eastern Ukraine to be finished. The Ukrainians are tired of it. But this doesn't mean that Ukraine will be writing down the demands of the separstists to please them all.

We need stronger policies to ensure European unity. For example countries that are in our union cannot be slaves of other countries. They cannot demand reparations when they have wasted their money. A union is a strong commitment and there cannot be exceptions.

You are a criminal Nazi, who propagates mass-muder. You would murder him together with all politicians, all refugees and all members of NGO's, who help refugees. This is your personal declaration of extremistic stupidity in times of terrorism. You should be happy that you are still not in jail, anti-German.

Wen?

Hanswurst, abgrundtief verblödeter.