Ravi
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Mitten seems to think it's a good idea.
What say you?
Over barbecue and sweet tea with 12 veterans here Friday, Mitt Romney appeared to brainstorm a fundamental change to the way the nation pays back the people who put their lives on the line in the military.
Talking with the veterans about the challenge of navigating the Veterans Affairs bureaucracy to get their health care benefits after they leave active duty, Romney suggested a way to improve the system would be to privatize it.
“Sometimes you wonder, would there be someway to introduce some private sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them and then they can choose whether they want to go on the government system or the private system and then it follows them, like what happens with schools in Florida where they have a voucher that follows them. Who knows.”
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-his-way-to-privatizing-veterans-benefits.php
Mitten seems to think it's a good idea.
What say you?
Do you think it's a bad idea...?
Over barbecue and sweet tea with 12 veterans here Friday, Mitt Romney appeared to brainstorm a fundamental change to the way the nation pays back the people who put their lives on the line in the military.
Talking with the veterans about the challenge of navigating the Veterans Affairs bureaucracy to get their health care benefits after they leave active duty, Romney suggested a way to improve the system would be to privatize it.
Sometimes you wonder, would there be someway to introduce some private sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them and then they can choose whether they want to go on the government system or the private system and then it follows them, like what happens with schools in Florida where they have a voucher that follows them. Who knows.
Romney Spit-Balls His Way To Privatizing Veteran’s Benefits | TPM 2012
As long as that safety net is always there for them, why not..?
Hmmm....... Our private system of medicine costs twice as much per citizen, does not cover all of our citizens, and has much poorer results than the systems of Canada, Japan, Taiwan, France, Germany, and even little Costa Rica.
But it will deliver better results if we just turn over Veteran care to them? We kind of did that at Walter Reed, remember?
Mitten seems to think it's a good idea.
What say you?
Mitten seems to think it's a good idea.
What say you?
Do you think it's a bad idea...?
Over barbecue and sweet tea with 12 veterans here Friday, Mitt Romney appeared to brainstorm a fundamental change to the way the nation pays back the people who put their lives on the line in the military.
Talking with the veterans about the challenge of navigating the Veterans Affairs bureaucracy to get their health care benefits after they leave active duty, Romney suggested a way to improve the system would be to privatize it.
Sometimes you wonder, would there be someway to introduce some private sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them and then they can choose whether they want to go on the government system or the private system and then it follows them, like what happens with schools in Florida where they have a voucher that follows them. Who knows.
Romney Spit-Balls His Way To Privatizing Veterans Benefits | TPM 2012
As long as that safety net is always there for them, why not..?
i think if i came back from iraq with my legs blown off, i wouldn't be in the mood to take a voucher and go look for the lowest bidder.
the country has a moral obligation to take care of veterans. this should be one of the last areas where we look to cheap out, imo.
I could be convinced if I heard a good argument against doing it.
Being a pragmatist it helps when things become more likely to get done...If the numbers add up what is OK...? Maybe in principle we should prioritize our tax dollars toward such and privatize OTHER things...?
I could be convinced if I heard a good argument against doing it.
Being a pragmatist it helps when things become more likely to get done...If the numbers add up what is OK...? Maybe in principle we should prioritize our tax dollars toward such and privatize OTHER things...?
When they privatized Medicaid in Tennessee and called it Tenncare, the money was absconded with and the system was broke in less than 3 years. Also, privatizing prisons all over the country has stopped because states can run their own prisons cheaper than they can pay someone else to do it. I worked for one of those companies that provided health care to prisons. They lost 3 BIG contracts at one time a couple of years ago and the company almost folded. But the reality id that states can pay their own people to run prisons cheaper than they can pay private companies to do it. The VA already uses a lot of 'fee basis' providers. But if we sent our veterans packing with a few vouchers we would be doing them a great disservice.
I could be convinced if I heard a good argument against doing it.
Being a pragmatist it helps when things become more likely to get done...If the numbers add up what is OK...? Maybe in principle we should prioritize our tax dollars toward such and privatize OTHER things...?
When they privatized Medicaid in Tennessee and called it Tenncare, the money was absconded with and the system was broke in less than 3 years. Also, privatizing prisons all over the country has stopped because states can run their own prisons cheaper than they can pay someone else to do it. I worked for one of those companies that provided health care to prisons. They lost 3 BIG contracts at one time a couple of years ago and the company almost folded. But the reality id that states can pay their own people to run prisons cheaper than they can pay private companies to do it. The VA already uses a lot of 'fee basis' providers. But if we sent our veterans packing with a few vouchers we would be doing them a great disservice.
I don't see where anyone said we should send our veterans packing with a few vouchers...
Mitten seems to think it's a good idea.
What say you?
Do you think it's a bad idea...?
Over barbecue and sweet tea with 12 veterans here Friday, Mitt Romney appeared to brainstorm a fundamental change to the way the nation pays back the people who put their lives on the line in the military.
Talking with the veterans about the challenge of navigating the Veterans Affairs bureaucracy to get their health care benefits after they leave active duty, Romney suggested a way to improve the system would be to privatize it.
Sometimes you wonder, would there be someway to introduce some private sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them and then they can choose whether they want to go on the government system or the private system and then it follows them, like what happens with schools in Florida where they have a voucher that follows them. Who knows.
Romney Spit-Balls His Way To Privatizing Veteran’s Benefits | TPM 2012
As long as that safety net is always there for them, why not..?
We saw how this worked at Walter Reed. We do not need to go through that again, and that Romney even suggests it is reason enough not to vote for him.
When they privatized Medicaid in Tennessee and called it Tenncare, the money was absconded with and the system was broke in less than 3 years.
Also, privatizing prisons all over the country has stopped because states can run their own prisons cheaper than they can pay someone else to do it.
I worked for one of those companies that provided health care to prisons.
They lost 3 BIG contracts at one time a couple of years ago and the company almost folded.
But the reality id that states can pay their own people to run prisons cheaper than they can pay private companies to do it.
The VA already uses a lot of 'fee basis' providers.
But if we sent our veterans packing with a few vouchers we would be doing them a great disservice.
I don't see where anyone said we should send our veterans packing with a few vouchers...
Then enlighten us as to how you would envision this transformation!
I don't see where anyone said we should send our veterans packing with a few vouchers...
Then enlighten us as to how you would envision this transformation!
I'm sure Mitt Romney will speak for himself soon enough... It's just a matter of shuffling papers, really... And yeah, the veterans already use "fee basis providers" so what's the big deal as long as we INSURE our Vets are supported...?