Zone1 Preterism: Has All Prophecy Been Fulfilled?

[surada]

There are things that have not happened that are indicated in John's recounting of the events so that tells me,, not to mention many biblical EXPERTS, that this is a future event..

Like what?

 

[surada]

No, dear. Your timing is off.
The Euphrates has a series of Dams that regulate the flow. It does not dry up every year.
But here's what is happening now in these end times:

The Euphrates River is a major water source in Western Asia. This 1,740 mile long rriver flows through Syria, Turkey and Iraq and serves a population of about 60 million people. Unfortunately, this major water source is drying up due to climate change, causing a disastrous effect on the people who rely on it.

Over the past decades, the flow in the Euphrates-Tigris River system has decreased to almost half of the average annual flow during dry years. The water levels in the Euphrates are currently at one of their lowest points in recorded history.

Isaiah talked about Israel in the 8th century BC. Stones carved telling of going to war with the House of David. Lots of mention of Jews and Israel. No mention at all of the millennial reign of Christ you think already happened.

Isaiah 66:8​

For in one day, suddenly, a nation, Israel, shall be born
Fulfilled ~ Midnight May 14, 1948


Revelation says the Temple will be rebuilt. (They aren't rebuilding Jesus) It will be in the city of David. The Jews will start sacrificing animals at the newly built Temple. <( simply hasn't happened yet. ) Jesus is going to sit in it. Where is it. Where is He?

You're deep into your own understanding, and are a perfect example of why we are told by God not to do that...

The Euphrates river use to dry up every Aug... Before the dams.


Jesus is the temple.

Isaiah 66?

 

[Calypso Jones]

Like what?

Read post 20... Irish Ram explained it perfectly.

 

[surada]

No, dear. Your timing is off.
The Euphrates has a series of Dams that regulate the flow. It does not dry up every year.
But here's what is happening now in these end times:

The Euphrates River is a major water source in Western Asia. This 1,740 mile long rriver flows through Syria, Turkey and Iraq and serves a population of about 60 million people. Unfortunately, this major water source is drying up due to climate change, causing a disastrous effect on the people who rely on it.

Over the past decades, the flow in the Euphrates-Tigris River system has decreased to almost half of the average annual flow during dry years. The water levels in the Euphrates are currently at one of their lowest points in recorded history.

Isaiah talked about Israel in the 8th century BC. Stones carved telling of going to war with the House of David. Lots of mention of Jews and Israel. No mention at all of the millennial reign of Christ you think already happened.

Isaiah 66:8​

For in one day, suddenly, a nation, Israel, shall be born
Fulfilled ~ Midnight May 14, 1948


Revelation says the Temple will be rebuilt. (They aren't rebuilding Jesus) It will be in the city of David. The Jews will start sacrificing animals at the newly built Temple. <( simply hasn't happened yet. ) Jesus is going to sit in it. Where is it. Where is He?

You're deep into your own understanding, and are a perfect example of why we are told by God not to do that...

Revelation 21:22

“And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.”

King James Version (KJV)

 

[luiza]

Scofield presumed the kingdom of heaven to be a future reign of Jesus Christ on earth; but John and Jesus announced the time had been fulfilled, the kingdom was then at hand, men were entering it, and it required conditions of obedience by those entering it. This event of His first advent is now 2000 years past.

The Cultist Deniers will hang on until they have been laughed away completely .

Every year I look for their craven apology for getting everything wrong every year for almost 2000 years .
But they just comb their soppy texts to find another verse that they can twist into another Fairy Tale .

 

[surada]

The Hebrew Bible is the literature of faith, not of scientific observation or historical demonstration

 

[surada]

The Hebrew Bible is the literature of faith, not of scientific observation or historical demonstration.

 

[surada]

The Hebrew Bible is the literature of faith, not of scientific observation or historical demonstration.

 

[norwegen]

You are a heretic, nothing more.

Unfortunately for you, that epithet means nothing, as heresy is deviation not from scripture but rather from orthodoxy.

If heresy were deviation from scripture, the heretic would be you.

 

[Libby von H]

DEFINITION​

Full preterism teaches that all biblical prophecy has been fulfilled, including the second coming of Christ, Satan and the Antichrist being thrown into the lake of fire, the resurrection of the dead, and the full arrival of the kingdom of God.

SUMMARY​

While there is a partial variety of preterism that finds more agreement with much of evangelical theology, full preterism is the position that all biblical prophecy has been fulfilled: the coming of Christ in judgment was fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, Satan and Antichrist have been thrown into the lake of fire, the kingdom of God has arrived, the resurrection is understood in spiritual terms, the Great Commission has been fulfilled, all things have been made new (the old heaven and earth have passed away; the new heaven and earth have come), the promised restoration has arrived, and the world now continues as it is ad infinitum. Problems with this position include that it does not take the already-not yet pattern of the New Testament into account, it over-emphasizes some statements in the Gospels to the exclusion of others, and that it does not line up with the timeline of the New Testament documents, our experience of the world, or the theology of the early church.

Preterism: Has All Prophecy Been Fulfilled? - The Gospel Coalition

Full preterism teaches that all biblical prophecy has been completely fulfilled: the second coming, the judgment of Satan, and the kingdom of God.

www.thegospelcoalition.org

Heretical to it's core.

Partial Preterism does not have these qualities. But what most people would understand --- if you would approach things logically -- is that Revelatin can't be totally about the future or who would have read it and preserved it

 

[JustAGuy1]

Unfortunately for you, that epithet means nothing, as heresy is deviation not from scripture but rather from orthodoxy.

If heresy were deviation from scripture, the heretic would be you.

LOL, you're as bad as she is

 

[JustAGuy1]

Preterists intentionally employ allegorical interpretations for many of the symbols of Revelation 4—19. For them, the Beasts in chapter 13 are symbols for the Roman Emperor Nero in AD 54–68, and the “tribulation” described in the text is a symbol for Christian persecution.

You do this by what authority? You don't like things you can't understand so you seek to "explain" them away.

 

[surada]

You do this by what authority? You don't like things you can't understand so you seek to "explain" them away.

The point is that the people of the first century understood the language of the Revelation letter.

 

[BreezeWood]

Full preterism teaches that all biblical prophecy has been fulfilled

jesus was the reiteration of the journey set by a&e for their own self determination through liberation theology for remission to the everlasting and was included by the heavens as the task for all humanity to accomplish as well - the fruition still to be fulfilled.

then that would explain why we all seem to be living in what is much closer to hell than heaven these days.

I'm sorry but I don't know what you are saying here and I'm pretty sure you are unable to put it into simple English so oh well. . .

try to

grow up, there in lies your issue.

no, not everyone is close to hell.

 

[BreezeWood]

And the millennial reign of Christ on earth? How was it, nice?

jesus taught all who are heavenly are equal, who have accomplished their own determination and have passed heavenly judgement. and are granted their admission into the everlasting.

 

[BreezeWood]

For in one day, suddenly, a nation, Israel, shall be born

that is very disingenuous, ram - that nation will never be born till the crucifiers are brought to justice, keep that in mind on your - to do list.

 

[Calypso Jones]

The point is that the people of the first century understood the language of the Revelation letter.

exactly when do you think Revelation was written?

 

[surada]

exactly when do you think Revelation was written?

Opinions differ.. some say 75 AD.. some say 90 AD. It doesn't matter. Paul and Nero were already dead and the temple was already destroyed.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Opinions differ.. some say 75 AD.. some say 90 AD. It doesn't matter. Paul and Nero were already dead and the temple was already destroyed.

yeah it does matter. WHEN do you think it was written?

 

[surada]

yeah it does matter. WHEN do you think it was written?

I'd guess around 70 AD.. It's a message of hope to the 7 churches. Jesus won.