President Obama on Defense

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    In his first major public address, White House National Security Advisor James Jones described the Obama administration's still-evolving foreign policy approach as one that will be proactive while reaching out to other nations.

    On issues such as the proliferation of the world's most deadly weapons to how Washington should respond to North Korea's alleged nuclear test, Jones made clear in his May 27 speech that President Barack Obama intends to avoid the go-it-alone approaches often employed by the Bush administration.

    Jones Offers Glimpse of U.S. Security Policy - Defense News

    Russian arms export body Rosoboronexport is looking to offset its declining presence in traditional markets with a goal of "penetrating the markets of other countries", where the key competitor will be the United States.

    The comments (relayed by Russian state information service RIA Novosti on 27 May) came from Rosoboronexport executive Valeriy Varlamov, who argued that "Rosoboronexport's sales grow by USD700-800 million every year" and "despite the economic crisis the year of 2009 will not be an exception".
    Briefing: Can Russia take on US in global market?

    On Monday, Gates announced that production of the F-22 would be halted at 187. That shouldn't be too controversial given that only 183 were ordered, but components for the Lockheed fighter jet are built in 44 states, giving it a great deal of political support.

    Gates also proposed scrapping new helicopters, next-generation armored vehicles for the Army and high-tech Navy vessels. At the same time, he would increase spending in other areas, such as unmanned aerial vehicles, F-35 fighter jets and special forces troops. The eminently sensible goal is to shift priorities to fighting insurgencies like those in Iraq and Afghanistan rather than continuing to pour money into systems intended for fighting conventional wars against great powers like Russia and China.
    Obama's defense cuts are just right - Los Angeles Times

    While it is obvious that President Obama is seeking out what I would call the approval of other nations to guide this nations defense policy, it is somewhat . given the deployment of US combat forces in two different A.O.'s, shortsighted on his part and dangerous to say the least. While I for one think it's high time that the DoD be held to some standard of purchasing, I do not think that means adding more waste to the system or for that matter cutting defense in a time of active combat. Further, given the recent actions of North Korea it should add another example as to why this nation should not be cutting it's defense. President Obama must realize that no matter how much he may wish it, there are nations out there that do not like the United States and no amount of talking or culture sharing will change that.
     
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    And there are some out there who can be pulled over to our side. The tough task is to determine which ones will and which ones will remain our enemy or at least not be our allies.


    Examples for thought: Germany, Japan, Vietnam, China?
     
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    While I am an advocate of diplomacy Ray, I am also an advocate that you must be prepared when doing so. It serves no useful purpose to appease those who would cause you harm and at the same time while talking appear weak on defense. It is one thing to talk on an equal footing but another for someone realize that the nation you represent is always prepared to meet any adversary. More of the peace through stregth mantra if you will. Germany, Japan, I would agree with you completely as far as being allies to the United States. Vietnam and China am not so sure about yet* I say yet because China especially has demonstrated over and over again a willingness to help anyone that will do business with them regardless of what they represent. I find it interesting though that all four of them at one time or the other our nation has had armed conflict with and isnt it interesting that prior to all of them there was talking save for perhaps vietnam and it could be argued that even there before during and after was a lot of talking going on.
     
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    OBAMA:

    65% Approval Rating!
     
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    I'm sorry Derek but what exactly does 65% mean? Approval for what? and whom? and who were the people polled. That number meand nothing to me as it would if it said. every republican had a 99% approval rating.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Georgia's defense minister is warning about Russia's military buildup as he meets with Obama administration officials in Washington this week.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Defense Minister Vasil Sikharulidze and Georgia's ambassador to Washington, Batu Kutelia, said that Russia has vastly improved communication and supply lines on breakaway Georgian territory since the two countries fought a war last August.

    Sikharulidze is meeting officials this week, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Thursday, at a time when the U.S. administration is trying to improve relations with Russia.

    President Barack Obama is heading to Russia next month for a summit meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, as the United State seeks Moscow's cooperation on vital policy goals including reining in North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs. Though Washington considers Georgia a close ally, Tbilisi fears that U.S. support could flag.
    The Associated Press: Georgian officials in US warn of Russian buildup

    A little food for thought here.
     
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    I love this web site! I enjoy watching Republicans squirm like this. You guys are so desperate. You don't even know if your party can make it through another election. Thank you for the entertainment. Why not bring Sarah Palin back for President! Good God ya'll!
     
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    Well Derek as you are so fond of polls lets put this into some perspective then depending on what poll you read President Obama's approval rating runs between 55 and 62% currently. That would put him pretty close to where Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon were after their first 100 days in office and we all know what great presidents they turned out to be. As for you assumption that everyone that does not support Barack Obama happens to support whomever the republican party put up i.e. Sarah Palin in my case your dead wrong. I just happen to think that Barack Obama is wholly unqualified to be President of the United States and his management style thus far is proving me correct regardless of how many in the democratic party fawn all over him or new anchors bow before him. On a personal level I harbor President Obama no ill will and actually hope that he is successful in getting this nation back on it's feet. However, I don't keep much faith that this will be the case As for this place being entertaining I happen to agree with you and in daily reminds me of the very reason that Barack Obama got elected in the first place.
     
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    I love the one about the US going it alone. Never fucking happened. In fact I REALLY love it when people say Europe was opposed to the Iraq war. Then we look and the ONLY 4 nations in Europe opposed were France and Germany, both wanting to get business from Iraq, and those power houses Belgium and Luxembourg.

    The rest of Europe SUPPORTED the WAR. Even Pacifist Japan SUPPORTED the WAR.

    Nothing Bush did was every alone. Claiming it repeatedly does not make it so.
     
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    We paid them enough to support the war. And the support was of the government, not the people. Most realized, as most in this nation eventually realized, it was the biggest single policy blunder in the last century. Now you fellows have to live with the blowback from a war based on lies and an occupation so incompetantly administered that there was never a chance of Iraq being pacified.
     
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    Ever hear the phrase "Germans are industrious people" ... bribery is a short term solution, they didn't have the financial power to risk angering Iraq, and it was probably the only reason their government didn't support the war, why risk making an enemy from those who offer them enough profit to stay afloat. What we gave them isn't nearly as much as Iraq still does (in spite of the war). They did what they thought best, just as we did. Now, the war itself was not based on lies, it was based on the fact that Iraq started it junior decided to finish it. It was what we were told that were lies, and well, you can blame the media for that.
     

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