I think it's pretty silly to claim that shady campaign practices are only used by "the other side".
Politics is a very dirty business.
Politics is a very dirty business.
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You have one instance. Do you think that proves what you want it to prove?Your statement in no way negates mine.
Then you also think the republicans can't defend their policies?
Hint: It doesn't.
This bothers you why exactly? First, I thought the right wings answer to campaign finance reform was full disclosure. Second, I doubt if you were very concerned Bush's op-research investigated private citizen George Soros.
If someone is using the stupid shield given by Citizens United, to pump millions into influence our elections, I think we have right to know who the hell they are.
The Chicago Way......go judge shopping until you find one to unseal private records between spouses. The President did this with Jack Ryan whan he was running for Senate in Illinois. Divorce records are a covenant between two parties as part of a settlement. Obama and water carriers feel entitled to it. Yet, these same people have no problem with a US Speaker of the House telling the American People that a Bill must be passed so we can find out what is in it.
Your calls for transparency are flawed.
This bothers you why exactly? First, I thought the right wings answer to campaign finance reform was full disclosure. Second, I doubt if you were very concerned Bush's op-research investigated private citizen George Soros.
If someone is using the stupid shield given by Citizens United, to pump millions into influence our elections, I think we have right to know who the hell they are.
The Chicago Way......go judge shopping until you find one to unseal private records between spouses. The President did this with Jack Ryan whan he was running for Senate in Illinois. Divorce records are a covenant between two parties as part of a settlement. Obama and water carriers feel entitled to it. Yet, these same people have no problem with a US Speaker of the House telling the American People that a Bill must be passed so we can find out what is in it.
Your calls for transparency are flawed.
That was a reporter, you moron, not the Bush Administration. Stop lying.Like I told your fellow moron -- you have once instance in this century.
I don't care who does it -- it's a crappy way to run a campaign. It shows weakness.
Meanwhile, you condemn the GOP for doing it, while excusing Dems.
Typical.
I have one instance in the LAST century (please try and keep up) that was significant enough to force a sitting president to resign. Rove was caught pulling so many dirty tricks, Axlerod would have to go to another 20 years of school to come close to catching up. You do know that Rove cut his teeth doing dirty tricks for Nixon, don't you.
Now if you want a filthy example of going after a civilian, I suggest you recall Valerie Plame and her husband.
One incident is all that's been brought up.You have one instance. Do you think that proves what you want it to prove?Then you also think the republicans can't defend their policies?
Hint: It doesn't.
You really think it's only one incident? You are that clueless? Hahaha.
This bothers you why exactly? First, I thought the right wings answer to campaign finance reform was full disclosure. Second, I doubt if you were very concerned Bush's op-research investigated private citizen George Soros.
If someone is using the stupid shield given by Citizens United, to pump millions into influence our elections, I think we have right to know who the hell they are.
The Chicago Way......go judge shopping until you find one to unseal private records between spouses. The President did this with Jack Ryan whan he was running for Senate in Illinois. Divorce records are a covenant between two parties as part of a settlement. Obama and water carriers feel entitled to it. Yet, these same people have no problem with a US Speaker of the House telling the American People that a Bill must be passed so we can find out what is in it.
Your calls for transparency are flawed.
It wasn't hard to get 7of9 to spill her guts about Ryan pressuring her to go to sex clubs. In fairness, I think the public needed to know what freak that family values pusher was. Oh, and moron, the records weren't release by a Chicago court, they were released by a Los Angeles Superior Court.
This bothers you why exactly? First, I thought the right wings answer to campaign finance reform was full disclosure. Second, I doubt if you were very concerned Bush's op-research investigated private citizen George Soros.
If someone is using the stupid shield given by Citizens United, to pump millions into influence our elections, I think we have right to know who the hell they are.
The Chicago Way......go judge shopping until you find one to unseal private records between spouses. The President did this with Jack Ryan whan he was running for Senate in Illinois. Divorce records are a covenant between two parties as part of a settlement. Obama and water carriers feel entitled to it. Yet, these same people have no problem with a US Speaker of the House telling the American People that a Bill must be passed so we can find out what is in it.
Your calls for transparency are flawed.
It wasn't hard to get 7of9 to spill her guts about Ryan pressuring her to go to sex clubs. In fairness, I think the public needed to know what freak that family values pusher was. Oh, and moron, the records weren't release by a Chicago court, they were released by a Los Angeles Superior Court.
Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.
This bothers you why exactly? First, I thought the right wings answer to campaign finance reform was full disclosure. Second, I doubt if you were very concerned Bush's op-research investigated private citizen George Soros.
If someone is using the stupid shield given by Citizens United, to pump millions into influence our elections, I think we have right to know who the hell they are.
This is a private citizen. This kind of thing only happens in corrupt societies. It is purely an intimidation tactic.
How would you like it if every time you gave to your candidate of choice somebody started looking through your personal files??
This is someone running a campaign, from behind the curtain, and using the door opened by the idiotic Roberts court to directly campaign against Obama and for Romney, using as much money as they feel like, with no disclosure.
Soros is also a private citizen, but that didn't stop Bush from digging up dirt on him. You act like this is something new in politics.
The Chicago Way......go judge shopping until you find one to unseal private records between spouses. The President did this with Jack Ryan whan he was running for Senate in Illinois. Divorce records are a covenant between two parties as part of a settlement. Obama and water carriers feel entitled to it. Yet, these same people have no problem with a US Speaker of the House telling the American People that a Bill must be passed so we can find out what is in it.
Your calls for transparency are flawed.
It wasn't hard to get 7of9 to spill her guts about Ryan pressuring her to go to sex clubs. In fairness, I think the public needed to know what freak that family values pusher was. Oh, and moron, the records weren't release by a Chicago court, they were released by a Los Angeles Superior Court.
Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.
Do you mean there's opposition research and dirty tricks in politics? I'm shocked!
Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked! - YouTube
It wasn't hard to get 7of9 to spill her guts about Ryan pressuring her to go to sex clubs. In fairness, I think the public needed to know what freak that family values pusher was. Oh, and moron, the records weren't release by a Chicago court, they were released by a Los Angeles Superior Court.
Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.
uhm not quite-
On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]
The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]
and just for the heck of it-
Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Dont ask for Ted Kennedys. Dont ask for John McCains. Dont ask for Joe Liebermans. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]
Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It wasn't hard to get 7of9 to spill her guts about Ryan pressuring her to go to sex clubs. In fairness, I think the public needed to know what freak that family values pusher was. Oh, and moron, the records weren't release by a Chicago court, they were released by a Los Angeles Superior Court.
Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.
uhm not quite-
On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]
The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]
and just for the heck of it-
Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Dont ask for Ted Kennedys. Dont ask for John McCains. Dont ask for Joe Liebermans. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]
Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released.
Do you mean there's opposition research and dirty tricks in politics? I'm shocked!
Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked! - YouTube
I don't want a government that has to win by doing this.
Far as I'm concerned it's totally unethical....if not criminal.
Next thing they'll be doing is kicking down their doors.
This kind of thing goes on in Russia, but it shouldn't be going on in America.
oh ane he , well axelrod went after obamas primary opponent ( blair hull), the end game being boxing him in, those records were unsealed to, yes they agreed but it didn't matter.....the sniff of you
know what left them little choice.
lighting strikes twice for some folks
Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.
uhm not quite-
On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]
The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]
and just for the heck of it-
Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Dont ask for Ted Kennedys. Dont ask for John McCains. Dont ask for Joe Liebermans. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]
Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I got it from the wikipedia page:
Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released.
I'm not sure, I'm trying to find another source.