Poverty

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/opinion/sunday/why-cant-we-end-poverty-in-america.html


    This whole article is clownish

    With all of that, why have we not achieved more? Four reasons: An astonishing number of people work at low-wage jobs. Plus, many more households are headed now by a single parent, making it difficult for them to earn a living income from the jobs that are typically available


    No Shit.....most people dont have high paying jobs....becasue if most people had them, they wouldnt be high paying.....Why do people like this miss the point, high paying jobs mean you make more than others, so by definition, you only have a few....DOH!

    And the single parent thing is a big big problem and Dan Quayle called it 20 years ago.
     
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    funny...one income was plenty enough in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Until Ronnie boy trickled the country's workforce into a death spiral....he didn't know it at the time, and neither did I. It made sense to me and the first time I voted, I voted for Reagan proudly....but something happened along the way trim the until now....The wealthy figured out that trickling down was optional and there was nothing stopping them from keeping all of that for themselves....and boy, did they ever.

    Now we NEED two incomes, oft times just to scrape by...in hindsight, Ronnie was wrong and so was I.
     
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    Wages have not kept pace with such mandatory spending such as food, shelter, energy and medical care. Maybe if you stretch really hard you can find a way to blame this 30 year trend on the party that is not actively involved in attacking the minimum wage, union membership, higher education and reacting in horror to any and all protectionist measures.
     
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    yeah, but electronics are cheap...too bad people can't live in, eat or drive their iPads. Necessities? nope they'll gouge the fuck out if us because we don't have a choice and they know it...This is the essence of MODERN DAY Capitalism. Capitalize on as many people as you can and if they can't afford to live? Fuck 'em.
     
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    Poverty is just not a priority of either party at the moment and I do not see that changing anytime soon. The social stigma attached to poverty has never been more painful, people suffer in silence, go to ridiculous lengths to hide their poverty and keep their complaints to themselves. With such a silent, fearful group it no wonder that they fly below the radar of politicians or worse, scapegoated as useless drags on society.
     
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    I think we have a problem defining "poverty." Poverty in the US is having one car, at least one cell phone, an assortment of technological devices and at least two tv's with the internet. Basically, it seems that economists or columnists want to declare it is a minority that is single parent!

    Obama wants to call it a minority he can get to call on food stamps regardless of need and a possible Democratic vote.

    What is true poverty? Is it someone who is out of a job and no home, no cell phone or hope for the future. Do we have a pverty problem? Yes, but he doesn't make $30K a year.
     
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    People can have a pile of technological gadgets and still not be able to count on having a job next month or next week, having a car does not mean it is a good dependable car or having the money to have the rust bucket maintained or repaired. Security is becoming a thing of the past, we are increasingly becoming a people who are just one "minor" emergency away from homelessness.
     
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    Poverty might be defined as someone having an IQ of under 90; my friend, you are one poor person.
     
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    If a person is responsible, they wouldn't put themselves in a position of having a rust bucket of a car and a pile on technological devices. We have to learn to have priorities and an account for repairing the rust bucket would out weigh the technological toys.
     
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    when you have a family, 30k isn't all that much in this country. It'll keep your kids from starving....but when you consider housing, utilities, transportation, Day Care until the kids hit school age, food and any extraneous spending....from clothing to toilet paper, and then those durable goods that pop up from time to time...car repairs...appliance replacement, etc....$30k is two minimum wage jobs, or one job making about $15/hr....
     

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