POLL: Serious question for Trump supporters: The Future

[AntonToo]

Trump’s longest legacy is swamp.

Any Republican can rubber stamp a conservative judge, any Republican can pass a tax-cut with full congressional majority.

But the most notable thing about Trump (aside from oral shows for the lowest common denominator) is historic violation of ethics, conventions of decency and law.

The man lies non-stop, has sweeping conflicts of interest across the world. Pimps out his personal assets for government bussiness. Injects his children and personal lawyers into critical foreign policy and governing positions. Leverages American foreign policy for personal political ends. Abuses his position to corruptly interfere in investigations to help himself and his cabinet members...

The list is very long but the bottom line is simple - what will be left after Trump is not a movement, but a swamp spreading precedent of corruption, especially if he somehow manages to get re-elected and not impeached.

Not releasing tax-returns when running for highest office of the land is now “normal”

Pathological lying - “for the win!” a mile of shameless lies well worth an inch of political advantage.

Huge financial conflicts of interest all over the world - “no problem” Trump did it.

Pressuring officers of the law to drop a case on your cabinet member - “it’s fine” Trump did it and faced no serious consequence.

Violating the shit out of Campaign finance laws - “no big deal” Trump broke them 10 different ways and people just “dealt with it”.

etc. etc. etc.

 

[Maxdeath]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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---------------------------------------------- permanent enough especially if he gets a second term and stays the course Mac .

Assuming he wins, is it your hope/expectation that enough of a majority of the country will see the results of his policies and decide that's the direction it wants to go?
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How many people do you expect to vote to lose their jobs? Warren is calling for the breakup of large tech and higher taxes on companies.
How many are going to vote to double their federal income tax rate? Most candidates are backing Medicare for all.
How many are going to vote to increase our dependence on foreign oil? Most have made it abundantly clear they don't want oil exploration and production.
How many are going to vote to increase the national debt by almost double. Most have embraced the concept of the New Green deal.
A recent estimate of Warrens proposed plans put the cost at 48 Trillion.

People look at things like employment, current and future pay. Both at record highs. A large amount look at things such as foreign wars. No new ones. While Trump may not be the epitome of a president he certainly has the last guy beat and he won two terms. The current crop of candidates have only higher taxes and lower jobs to offer.

 

[playtime]

Trump’s longest legacy is swamp.

Any Republican can rubber stamp a conservative judge, any Republican can pass a tax-cut with full congressional majority.

But the most notable thing about Trump (aside from oral shows for the lowest common denominator) is historic violation of ethics, conventions of decency and law.

The man lies non-stop, has sweeping conflicts of interest across the world. Pimps out his personal assets for government bussiness. Injects his children and personal lawyers into critical foreign policy and governing positions. Leverages American foreign policy for personal political ends. Abuses his position to corruptly interfere in investigations to help himself and his cabinet members...

The list is very long but the bottom line is simple - what will be left after Trump is not a movement, but a swamp spreading precedent of corruption, especially if he somehow manages to get re-elected and not impeached.

Not releasing tax-returns when running for highest office of the land is now “normal”

Pathological lying - “normal”

Huge financial conflicts of interest - “no problem” Trump did it.

Pressuring officers of the law to drop a case on your cabinet member - “it’s fine” Trump did it and faced no serious consequence.

Violating the shit out of Campaign finance laws - “no big deal” Trump broke them 10 different ways and it was swept under the carpet.

etc. etc. etc.

the only thing i disagree with that's in your reply:

' what will be left after Trump is not a movement, but a swamp '

because a huge bowel movement has already been laid right on top of the constitution; & a 'swamp' is a step above the cesspool donny created.

 

[Defiant1]

Trump said it at his rally. He is going to keep winning for the next 12-16 years.

 

[playtime]

Trump said it at his rally. He is going to keep winning for the next 12-16 years.

so, you are on board with an autocrat? 2 terms is the max.... you think donny will refuse to go or are you having delusions that his spawn will have a shot?

 

[Correll]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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I voted number 4. I think he is a good thing, but too little, too late, Demographic shift is likely going to make this a defacto one party state, within a few years.


If/When that happens, this country will be effectively over.


A new culture will arise in it's place. A much shittier one. Our descendants will wonder why the fuck we let it happen.

 

[Correll]

Please vote and expand, thanks.

Even if i did support Trump, it would be his words, not his actions Mac

Not sure what you mean. You support his words, not his actions?
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Most of Trumps contingent get off on his speeches Mac

I viewed his Texas cheer leading rally as long as i could stand it

This is the heart of MAGA, to believe and buy into all the jingoistic rhetoric

Ergo, his supporters honestly believe they're 'great again' / 'winning' , simply because they're told so

Despite the inversely proportional devil in the 'action' details

~S~

Speaking as a Trump supporter, with many Trump supporting peers, that is just not true.

 

[Defiant1]

Trump said it at his rally. He is going to keep winning for the next 12-16 years.

so, you are on board with an autocrat? 2 terms is the max.... you think donny will refuse to go or are you having delusions that his spawn will have a shot?

I'm banking on the Constitution of the Confederated States of New America won't have a 2 term limitation.

 

[pismoe]

Trump said it at his rally. He is going to keep winning for the next 12-16 years.

so, you are on board with an autocrat? 2 terms is the max.... you think donny will refuse to go or are you having delusions that his spawn will have a shot?

------------------------------------- might be years with 4 years coming up in 2020 and then 8 years for Pence . So that's the math of the TRUMP as I guess PTime

 

[BluesLegend]

Washington is a bought off, bribed, purchased, corrupted den of snakes with an accomplice press. It chews presidents up and spits them out. Trump is the first president in generations able to battle these scum down in the gutter where they live. No holds barred, bare knuckle, using their own tactics against them.

 

[pismoe]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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I voted number 4. I think he is a good thing, but too little, too late, Demographic shift is likely going to make this a defacto one party state, within a few years.


If/When that happens, this country will be effectively over.


A new culture will arise in it's place. A much shittier one. Our descendants will wonder why the fuck we let it happen.

------------------------------------------- keep importing the third worlders and then saying that legal immigration is good [chuckle] and you'll get that new and zhitier culture and USA Correl .

 

[Third Party]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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First, neither side gives an inch to the other, so there will be NO consensus. His impact will be the large amount of judges he had confirmed-the rest is temporary like Reagan's economy or Bush's collapse. His methods resemble certain negotiating tactics-remember Khrushchev and his shoe? His name calling is, well, uncalled for, and may cost him ultimately. His energy and instant communication will be missed, even by enemies. One last thing-you should have a contest.If Trump does get the wall built, what should it be named?

 

[Pilot1]

The Media, Social Media, Education, most of Government and Corporate America are Far Left Progressive. It is difficult for one President to make a difference, but Trump is doing as well as can be expected.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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If he purges the Deep State from America, then yes. He would need to arrest ALL Of the Coup Plotters and severely punish the Leaders, He would also need to eradicate the Department of education and end all government student loan guarantees; basically roll back the 100 year Progressive Jihad on America

 

[Moonglow]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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First, neither side gives an inch to the other, so there will be NO consensus. His impact will be the large amount of judges he had confirmed-the rest is temporary like Reagan's economy or Bush's collapse. His methods resemble certain negotiating tactics-remember Khrushchev and his shoe? His name calling is, well, uncalled for, and may cost him ultimately. His energy and instant communication will be missed, even by enemies. One last thing-you should have a contest.If Trump does get the wall built, what should it be named?

It should be named. Ha-ha told you Mexico wouldn't pay for it.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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If he can appoint another 2-3 Supreme Court Justices, he will have made a 20-30 year impact on this country. Trump isn't the one to look at....Trump 2.0 is the one to look at and the conservative politicians who will no longer be afraid of the press, and who will have learned how to deal with them, but with more polish and skill....

Still waiting for those types to step up. Part of the reason for the non stop bs storm is to prevent that.

 

[Moonglow]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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If he purges the Deep State from America, then yes. He would need to arrest ALL Of the Coup Plotters and severely punish the Leaders, He would also need to eradicate the Department of education and end all government student loan guarantees.

That's right Frank only wealthy people should be going to college.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's so much entertainment just watching you all be driven absolutely crazy by him. I don't even watch the rallies--why should I? You all are entertainment enough.

The only people driven crazy by Trump are people like you. That you believe in him makes you very laughable. Voting for someone just to piss off the other side makes as much sense as shooting yourself in the foot, and the results are very similar.

 

[2aguy]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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If he can appoint another 2-3 Supreme Court Justices, he will have made a 20-30 year impact on this country. Trump isn't the one to look at....Trump 2.0 is the one to look at and the conservative politicians who will no longer be afraid of the press, and who will have learned how to deal with them, but with more polish and skill....

Still waiting for those types to step up. Part of the reason for the non stop bs storm is to prevent that.

Those Trump 2.0s are in college right now.....they are watching Trump, and learning his way of dealing with democrats, democrats with press credentials.....and rino republicans.....

 

[22lcidw]

Let's take everything Trump represents, has accomplished and wants to accomplish, and look at it as a whole. Let's also consider his methods, tactics and behaviors, however you see them, good or bad. The whole package.

Trump supporters: Do you think that he and his policies represent something permanent, a significant new direction, something that will last long into the future?

Please vote and expand, thanks.
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If he purges the Deep State from America, then yes. He would need to arrest ALL Of the Coup Plotters and severely punish the Leaders, He would also need to eradicate the Department of education and end all government student loan guarantees.

That's right Frank only wealthy people should be going to college.

College should be much cheaper to attend. There is an imbalance somewhere. And not with the students going to them.