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Animals don't get married, they seem to figure out what they need to do without a contract.
Don't tell them that. lol
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Animals don't get married, they seem to figure out what they need to do without a contract.
There is also a huge problem of underachieving males..ie, they won't work or work steady."Child poverty is an ongoing national concern, but few are aware of its principal cause: the absence of married fathers in the home. According to the U.S. Census, the poverty rate for single parents with children in the United States in 2008 was 36.5 percent. The rate for married couples with children was 6.4 percent. Being raised in a married family reduced a child’s probability of living in poverty by about 80 percent."
Marriage: America’s Greatest Weapon Against Child Poverty
That was one of the cost of the equality movement, no choice divorces...."Child poverty is an ongoing national concern, but few are aware of its principal cause: the absence of married fathers in the home. According to the U.S. Census, the poverty rate for single parents with children in the United States in 2008 was 36.5 percent. The rate for married couples with children was 6.4 percent. Being raised in a married family reduced a child’s probability of living in poverty by about 80 percent."
Marriage: America’s Greatest Weapon Against Child Poverty
I agreed with you before I read the last paragraph.So, mom and dad were important figures for you too, as well as the other 85% of the responders to the poll.
My mom was important to me. My dad was important to me. My sister was important to me. My grandmother was important to me.
That doesn't mean I was entitled to have all of them in my life- I was just fortunate. Just like a girl with two mom's is fortunate to have them in her life- and the boy with the single mom is fortunate to have her in his life.
Remember again- marriage does not mean children. Children do not mean marriage. Parents are important to their children. If I had someway to snap my fingers and ensure that every child in the United States had two loving caring married parents- i would do so in an instant.
But our system doesn't require parents to be married. Or married couples to have children. Or married couples with children to stay together. Or even that both parents actually raise the children.
If Betty is being raised by her mom- and her dad lives 3,000 miles away- she is being raised by a single parent.- and hopefully a good single parent.
If Betty is being raised by her mom, and her mom's wife- and her dad lives 3,000 miles away- she is being raised by two parents- and hopefully they are both good parents.
Now- if Betty's two mom's get married- then she would have two married mom's- and her dad would be 3,000 miles away- and their children would all be better off than if Betty was single- or the two mom's were not married.
And that really is the crux of it. You know that denying marriage to the gay parents of children just harms their children- and you keep pursuing it- because obviously you want to harm their children.
People who want to deny marriage to gay parents don't want to harm their children. They feel it waters down their own values of marriage to have it include the gays. Kind of like calling Sirloin steak steak. It's not steak it's dog food. Rib eye is fucking steak.
I agreed with you before I read the last paragraph.
People who want to deny marriage to gay parents don't want to harm their children. They feel it waters down their own values of marriage to have it include the gays. Kind of like calling Sirloin steak steak. It's not steak it's dog food. Rib eye is fucking steak.
How do you feel about "gay marriage" being a contractual relationship that actually harms children? All gay marriages contain the implied binder that any children involved will be disenfranchised for life from either a mother or father. Pretty messed up eh? The thing is that no contract implicitly including children or anticipating their inclusion may contain terms detrimental to them.
Ergo, the gay marriage contract is illegal per the Infancy Doctrine.That is only for legal contracts a person entered into as a minor. Children do not enter into a marriage contract of their parents, only themselves...
We'll see...s.
That is only for legal contracts a person entered into as a minor. Children do not enter into a marriage contract of their parents, only themselves...I agreed with you before I read the last paragraph.
People who want to deny marriage to gay parents don't want to harm their children. They feel it waters down their own values of marriage to have it include the gays. Kind of like calling Sirloin steak steak. It's not steak it's dog food. Rib eye is fucking steak.
How do you feel about "gay marriage" being a contractual relationship that actually harms children? All gay marriages contain the implied binder that any children involved will be disenfranchised for life from either a mother or father. Pretty messed up eh? The thing is that no contract implicitly including children or anticipating their inclusion may contain terms detrimental to them.
Ergo, the gay marriage contract is illegal per the Infancy Doctrine.
In Sil's imaginary legal world, children that don't exist yet are an implicit party to a marriage contract. Mind you, not a single court in this nation recognizes that legal standard, but none of that matters when you have a mentally ill obsession.
I agreed with you before I read the last paragraph.
People who want to deny marriage to gay parents don't want to harm their children. They feel it waters down their own values of marriage to have it include the gays. Kind of like calling Sirloin steak steak. It's not steak it's dog food. Rib eye is fucking steak.
Ergo, the gay marriage contract is illegal per the Infancy Doctrine.
Do you remember all the oral arguments and Amicus briefs opposing gay marriage citing the Infancy Doctrine as their reason? Yeah, me neither.
That is only for legal contracts a person entered into as a minor. Children do not enter into a marriage contract of their parents, only themselves...
I'm an indepentent who was fortunate to have had a mother and a father as head of household. I learned separate and valuable lessons from each as well as those values they held in common. It was a perfect, imperfect family within which I was given the tools to use in accepting or avoiding those choices and repercusions I would come to make as I struck out on my own. I payed attention to some of them.
[/QUOTE]How do you feel about "gay marriage" being a contractual relationship that actually harms children? ..
How do you feel about "gay marriage" being a contractual relationship that actually harms children? All gay marriages contain the implied binder that any children involved will be disenfranchised for life from either a mother or father. Pretty messed up eh? The thing is that no contract implicitly including children or anticipating their inclusion may contain terms detrimental to them.
Ergo, the gay marriage contract
Anticipation is the keyword for the implied partners in the marriage contract.
I'm an indepentent who was fortunate to have had a mother and a father as head of household. I learned separate and valuable lessons from each as well as those values they held in common. It was a perfect, imperfect family within which I was given the tools to use in accepting or avoiding those choices and repercusions I would come to make as I struck out on my own. I payed attention to some of them.
Something about these two posts bothering you Syriusly?So you felt both a mother and father were vital to you from that marriage? Both your father, a man and your mother, a woman had their intrinsic input to which you felt was unique and invaluable?
I'm an indepentent who was fortunate to have had a mother and a father as head of household. I learned separate and valuable lessons from each as well as those values they held in common. It was a perfect, imperfect family within which I was given the tools to use in accepting or avoiding those choices and repercusions I would come to make as I struck out on my own. I payed attention to some of them.
Something about these two posts bothering you Syriusly?So you felt both a mother and father were vital to you from that marriage? Both your father, a man and your mother, a woman had their intrinsic input to which you felt was unique and invaluable?