Political Beliefs 101: Who should pay for Health Care?

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Whose Duty is it to pay for Health Care:

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  1. 1. Churches have a Duty to Charity and Caring for those in need

    1 vote(s)
    3.3%
  2. 2. Govt has the Duty to Provide

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. 3. Govt has the Duty to remain Neutral

    2 vote(s)
    6.7%
  4. 4. It is a Free Choice that belongs to the People

    17 vote(s)
    56.7%
  5. 5. States should manage democratically not Federal Govt

    3 vote(s)
    10.0%
  6. 6. Parties should provide for their Members

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7. Companies or Organizations should provide for their Workers or Members

    6 vote(s)
    20.0%
  8. 8. Combination or Other (please specify)

    6 vote(s)
    20.0%
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  1. emilynghiem
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    Given Beliefs being argued that Health Care is a Right,
    who should pay for it?

    1. It is a Church Duty: The Churches/religions have a duty as part of charity they preach and teach
    2. It is Govt Duty to provide: The Govt has the duty to protect public health and safety and promote general welfare
    3. It is Govt Duty to remain neutral - The Govt should protect the right of people to practice this belief, but not establish it.
    (ie not violate due process, equal beliefs and liberty/free choice of others who may not share this belief it is a right, or may believe in Constitutional limits on govt that would be violated by federal management of health care choices)
    4. It is up to Free Choice: People have free choice to believe and pay for health care as they wish
    5. States should manage this democratically to protect public health
    6. Parties that advocate Health Care as a Right should provide for their members
    7. Companies or Organizations should provide for their Workers or Members
    8. Combination of the above or Other (please specify)
     
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  2. Mike Dwight
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    Um definitely accountants you employ the most ethical of all business schools, accountant auditor specialty graduate level, pay there if you got them.
     
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    I say if we are going to go down that road, everybody pays. Institute a consumption tax and everybody pays equally.
     
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    Yup, Health Care is a right. And each one of us should have a right to choose any plan, any doctor, any hospital. And the right to pay for our choices.
     
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    Okay and how would you answer to or deal with people who insist on you paying through govt instead of directly paying for health care services other ways? Ray From Cleveland
     
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    Dear Thinker 101:
    If you believe this is a right to choose freely and pay for those choices, what is the best way you see to manage the payment of those choices:
    1. by free market and creating or choosing your own programs yourself
    2. federal govt creating or managing those choices and payments
    3. States managing it for their populations
    4. Parties managing it since not everyone agrees with you that it is a right to the same choices
    5. People choosing any of the above avenues for paying and providing for health care

    If you believe it is a right, are you willing to pay for medical education and clinics to provide that care?

    Again, how would you recommend providing these health care facilities, services, access and administration for payments and provisions?
     
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    I don't know if I quite understand the question. If we pay through a consumption tax, it does go through government. It's the only way it could work.

    In my county, we have a consumption tax of 8 cents on the dollar. While I don't care for how the money is used, at least it's taxed evenly. The poor pay this tax, the middle-class pay this tax, the wealthy pay this tax.

    The county collects that money and redistributes it to the various factions that are supported by it; mostly public transportation.

    The problem with your healthcare is that it becomes political just like Commie Care did. If you are a middle-class working person, it's unaffordable. If you sweep floors for a living, you can get great healthcare insurance at next to nothing in cost.

    This is because most floor sweepers vote Democrat, and many middle-class hard working people vote Republican.
     
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    Option 1, free market.
     
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    Mike Dwight: Which people or institutions do you see these Accountants working for. All the choices above? Or do you see certain avenues as more effective, do you have any preferences or beliefs as to what "systems" people should use for the accountants to track payments and services through?
     
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    Free Market allows for best choices start to finish. Let free choice best opportunity float to the top.

    Accountants don't have in-crowds start to finish is a problem with Marketplaces and big corporations, or if we went straight to the actuaries. Healthcare is weird.
     
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