Police State: Psssshh........yeah right

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    I see some dude named "Dissent" has a streak of "police state" threads remaining, so I'm sure my rebuttal will be allowed.

    Well, all the Ron Paul junior anarchists have joined the cop-hater crowd. No surprise there.

    What is a surprise is just how fucking stupid they are when talking about a "police state". They have no damn clue.

    For one, 99% of the anti-coppers have absolutely NO CLUE about the realities of law enforcement and what it takes to keep 300,000,000 very diverse, very opinionated, very emotional....and heavily armed....people in a state of stable civility. Sure, pockets of crime and isolated incidents. But we dont have entire cities like Juarez, Mexico, or Kabul, Afghanistan. Our society has violence...but within reason. For the most part, our society is very stable, and outside of internet forums, mostly civil. These cop haters also have likely never as much as done one ride-a-long, much less picked up a gun and badge and worked a shift. You know....money where their mouth is...be the change from within....show us how they would police the city.

    Next....

    Of course, sadly I must always put in the mandatory disclaimer: Yes, there are some bad apple cops out there. Hope they get fired and/or prosecuted. Statistics show most bad apples, as small a percentage as they are, get weeded out within 5 years of swearing in. And, yes, sometimes horrible mistakes happen. Like the swat team who was provided the wrong address by an informant, or some rookie panics and shoots the family dog. Also tragic, and unfortunately, part of a force that is comprised of...well, people from our general population, NONE of whom are perfect, so obviously a perfect force will never exist.

    Now....

    Exactly what are the horrors of the "police state" USA??? That COPS do. Not politicians, but the street level cops. A traffic ticket...which will probably get reduced or dropped if the driver is polite, comes to court, and simply asks for leniancy. A cop who is rude verbally? A little too rough in a fight?

    Oh, the horrors.

    How about Southwest Asian cops...like Afghanistan...blowing up markets and murdering mass numbers of US troops?

    Or how about Mexican cops, kidnapping and beheading hundreds of people every year on behalf of the drug cartels...who they have more loyalty to than their department.

    Or how about the Chinese cops? Shoplift....and you may never be seen again.

    Russian cops? HAHAHA!!! Yeah, call one a pig and video tape him. You wont leave the hospital before the current season changes.


    You idiot "dissent"ers will one day realize you have it pretty good. That for 300,000,000 people who are heavily armed, drugged, mostly free, and emotionally short-fused....our cops are mostly doing a pretty darn good job.

    But then again.......maybe they wont realize that. Because they'll always live in their parent's suburban home, safe, without much of a personal danger to their day to day lives, safely driving to the internet cafe (mostly absent of DUI drivers) and type away about the "police state" they live in. They'll gather outside some local bar and get drunk and/or high (mostly safely), and have no fear of being kidnapped or beheaded or robbed (like on some other world streets) and bitch about how the "pig" across the street is worthless.

    Yep. They'll likely live such a safe life in such a bubble of comfort....that they'll never know how good they have it, or how lucky they are that they have "pigs" and the military to help keep that bubble closed to truly dangerous people throughout the world.
     
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    Bucs, I agree, I'm pro cop most of the time, in fact I think they were justified in beating the shit out of Rodney King, a guy that drives 100+ miles an hour on a city interstate and then lunges at the cops after they stop him.....he needs an ass kicking.

    The one major thing I dont like, is again the union, since it protects corrupt cops....that's gotta stop.
     
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    Shadap and fall in line with the statists...Just embrace your inner authoritarian.

    You'd be much more respected than posers like Fake Malarkey.
     
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    I agree, not with King, but the no union thing. I'm almost overly pro-cop. Hell, I'm voting Democrat this year just because some GOP politicians have made some bad calls on police matters lately.

    BUT...even with that, I'm not for police unions. They DO protect bad cops. And....its true, they bloat salaries/pensions to levels that are far too high for cops. Sounds funny coming from me...but I would have NEVER wanted my backup to be a guy doing it for the money. A solid paycheck, yes. But starting pay in Seattle for experienced cops is almost 80,000 a year. Thats a bit ridiculous.
     
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    HA!! If you actually knew any cops....like, as good friends, or actually WORKED as one.......you'd know that 90% of cops despise powerful politicians even more than you do. You all only see the publicly available shitty side of the mayors, governors, etc. NO cops would want "authoritarianism" where the politicians had even more power.

    Thankfully, we aren't under that system. Cops have descretion. Meaning they have the power to tell a politician "Fuck off, I will not enforce that law". And in reality, they can't really do much to them for it. No court martial. Mabye a suspension. But the power TRULY lays with the hundreds of thousands of cops who can choose, or not, to enforce the laws our dumbass politicians pass.
     
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    LOL, yeah , I hear ya....I dont see him on much lately, he tried to nail me in another thread...it's commical....

    But I do cut the police alot of slack, because they have dangerous jobs and have to catch people and then all the work they do can be overturned by a technicality or just stupid judges and juries (*cough* OJ *cough*). And if they do get convicted they're sent to prisons with xbox, tv, conjugal visits, wtf?????
     
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    What say in the matter did the Waco cops have when the federal troops rolled in?
     
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    Dissent and his Ron Paul cronies are just a bunch of immature assholes trapped in the 60's, despite being born with a silver spoon in their mouth during the 90's.

    They think it's "cool" to be the rebel with the fuck-the-police attitude, maaaaaan.

    How immature do you have to be to root for Obama -who represents everything you claim to be dead set against - over Romney who is clearly the closest thing to your values that is available?

    They won't bend to the GOP, maaaaan. Or the PIGS, maaaaan....
     
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    Well I understand that, I'm ok with cops getting paid, military, police, fire and those kinds of folks I dont mind making bank......the problem is retarded politicians wont fire some staffers (ie friends) that are useless and reduce a lot of waste. They use cops to blackmale voters and guilt them into tax increases, and if you have a republican mayor doing that, I'd vote his ass out too.
     
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    not a whole lot......when Mr..er Ms Reno showed up, they had notta....which is worrisome, then they went after Randy Weaver and others.
     

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