Poland and the Jews

"If the vast majority of them were bilingual, then I don't see a problem. This would show rather the wisdom of then Polish rulers who didn't force full assimilation."

complete opposite , Polish elitarian rulers of so - called "The Second Polish Republic " have had assimilation of minorities as the main strategical goal for the polish elitarian empire Polonization - Wikipedia
The history of Poland comprises of not only the Second Polish Republic. Throughout the centuries before, the Jews enjoyed tolerance and protection from Polish rulers.

thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.
 
"If the vast majority of them were bilingual, then I don't see a problem. This would show rather the wisdom of then Polish rulers who didn't force full assimilation."

complete opposite , Polish elitarian rulers of so - called "The Second Polish Republic " have had assimilation of minorities as the main strategical goal for the polish elitarian empire Polonization - Wikipedia
The history of Poland comprises of not only the Second Polish Republic. Throughout the centuries before, the Jews enjoyed tolerance and protection from Polish rulers.

thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
 
As said an Israeli minister "Poles imbibe anti-Semitism with their mothers' milk".
Absolutely true. There is nothing to add.
Israeli minister was wrong, it has nothing to do with Polish mothers' milk. so -called the second polish Republic was created as copy of "russian" empire, kind of European the mini - "russian" empire . backward, poor, elitarian , anti-Semitic, semi - fascist , oppressive , apartheid empire .
What? Poland as a copy of Russian empire? Are you serious?
It is a "good old" antisemitism. Nothing to do with politics.
not Poland, but interwar Polish empire

not just "good old" antisemitism , so - called the second polish republic (empire) went much farther than ordinary a "good old" antisemitism.

No, It was pure political , state - run antisemitism
was part of Polish imperial politic
highly recommended


Nations, Empires, Unions: European Integration and Disintegration Since 1914 - lecture by Timothy Snyder


What reason would Poles have to not be anti-Jewish?
 
"If the vast majority of them were bilingual, then I don't see a problem. This would show rather the wisdom of then Polish rulers who didn't force full assimilation."

complete opposite , Polish elitarian rulers of so - called "The Second Polish Republic " have had assimilation of minorities as the main strategical goal for the polish elitarian empire Polonization - Wikipedia
The history of Poland comprises of not only the Second Polish Republic. Throughout the centuries before, the Jews enjoyed tolerance and protection from Polish rulers.

thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
 
"If the vast majority of them were bilingual, then I don't see a problem. This would show rather the wisdom of then Polish rulers who didn't force full assimilation."

complete opposite , Polish elitarian rulers of so - called "The Second Polish Republic " have had assimilation of minorities as the main strategical goal for the polish elitarian empire Polonization - Wikipedia
The history of Poland comprises of not only the Second Polish Republic. Throughout the centuries before, the Jews enjoyed tolerance and protection from Polish rulers.

thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
 
The history of Poland comprises of not only the Second Polish Republic. Throughout the centuries before, the Jews enjoyed tolerance and protection from Polish rulers.

thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
 
As said an Israeli minister "Poles imbibe anti-Semitism with their mothers' milk".
Absolutely true. There is nothing to add.
Israeli minister was wrong, it has nothing to do with Polish mothers' milk. so -called the second polish Republic was created as copy of "russian" empire, kind of European the mini - "russian" empire . backward, poor, elitarian , anti-Semitic, semi - fascist , oppressive , apartheid empire .
What? Poland as a copy of Russian empire? Are you serious?
It is a "good old" antisemitism. Nothing to do with politics.
not Poland, but interwar Polish empire

not just "good old" antisemitism , so - called the second polish republic (empire) went much farther than ordinary a "good old" antisemitism.

No, It was pure political , state - run antisemitism
was part of Polish imperial politic
highly recommended


Nations, Empires, Unions: European Integration and Disintegration Since 1914 - lecture by Timothy Snyder


What reason would Poles have to not be anti-Jewish?

Being sober, which hardly ever happened.
 
thats true, 0.00 2 % of Poles (magants ) protected Jews (most of the times) , not all, but those who worked for them. but this elite have never thought about giving to the Jews any form of political power. the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia

The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.
 
The Polish statute of Kalisz to give Jews unprecedented rights in Europe, was formulated near the Mongol slaughter of Poles.

My guess is the Polish magnates thought that Jews would become Polish, and replace the Poles lost to Mongols.'

That never happened, reports show that in the Deluge, and Partitions the Jews collaborated with the invaders of Poland.
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
 
Many Jews assimilated.
When the German troops came into a town, the Poles would kick down the Jews doors, throw the Jews into the street and raid the Jew’s homes.
I can imagine the Poles were terrified by seeing German soldiers.

Source?
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
We did leave which is why Europe keeps begging for money from the US.
 
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
We did leave which is why Europe keeps begging for money from the US.

Haha, sure only Europe wants US money & not Israel.
 
Bunch of Kikes who lived in different Polish cities who all had very similar stories.
You know, the “Ungrateful Kikes of Poland”.
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
We did leave which is why Europe keeps begging for money from the US.

Haha, sure only Europe wants US money & not Israel.
Who makes better use of it?
Perhaps other nations also help the US improve their inventions.
 
Jews must be really dumb to chose to live in.such an anti-Semitic country for 1,000 years.
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
We did leave which is why Europe keeps begging for money from the US.

Haha, sure only Europe wants US money & not Israel.
Who makes better use of it?
Perhaps other nations also help the US improve their inventions.

Better use at killing, indeed.
 
And you must be really dumb to not realize that all of Europe was anti-Jew thanks to “Saint Paul”.

Then leave, nobody wants you.
We did leave which is why Europe keeps begging for money from the US.

Haha, sure only Europe wants US money & not Israel.
Who makes better use of it?
Perhaps other nations also help the US improve their inventions.

Better use at killing, indeed.
Because the purpose of a military is...?
 
the fact is that if Muscovite horde didn´t the confederation constantly (and brutally) cities urbanization ´d integrated almost certainly Polish and Belarusian (Litvaks) into these states . Like it have happened in Prussia
I didn't understand this part at all.
Poland (The crown, is the correct name) has been in war (existential , total ) with Muscovite mongol ulus most of it time, that's why The crown could not make a necessary step in development and give to all Crown´s residents political rights
What political rights do you mean? I hope you don't mean the democracy in the contemporary sense because no one country had this in those times.

Polish state was very democratic, if it may be called this. The power of a king was restricted by the Sejm, there was a time when a king was elected by the nobility, the liberum veto (though it played a fatal role) etc.
Add to this the religious tolerance for some minorities.
 
"Jews were over represented in Communist circles in Interwar Poland, and also in post-war Poland."

as well as Belarusians in socialistic, and you know why ? because Interwar Poland empire was a semi - fascist , apartheid, undemocratic , antisemitic, poor , backward , militarist state . where the Jews were second class "citizens", Belarusians/Ukrainians third underclass in own occupied lands BNR/UPR

Good, Jews, Belarussians, and Ukrainians proved to be dangerous.

- Skide Revolt, Salomon Morel, Jakub Berman, Wolyn Massacre, the blood of Polish people spilled.
After Jews were oppressed.
You are truly delusional if you think Jews were ever populous enough to run anything in Poland.

Sure, so oppressed that Jews made up over 30% of doctors, and over 50% of lawyers, despite making up 10% of !Poland.
That is where intellectual and educational superiority reveals itself.

Sure, so smart that many of them can't figure out that Germans did the Holocaust.
I am sure that the vast majority of them understand that it was the Germans who organized that.

But as I can understand, the Jews don't regard Poland too high even despite the fact that the Poles are at the top of list among the Righteous. Obviously, there is the cause of that.
 
The situation began to differ when Poland became a part of neighboring empires. Anti-Jewish sentiments were growing since then
Jews are not of Polish origin in the end. They were immigrants.
It is old good poor Poland story, surrounded by savages, ect.

The majority of Poland's Jews in the end spoke a dialect of German Yiddish (Mostly)
and identified as Russian Jews (Mostly)
They simply weren't a integral part of Poland, ever.

polish jews ID as Polish jews-------excluded from society by
catholic polish pigs for centuries------including from SCHOOLS
 
Good, Jews, Belarussians, and Ukrainians proved to be dangerous.

- Skide Revolt, Salomon Morel, Jakub Berman, Wolyn Massacre, the blood of Polish people spilled.
After Jews were oppressed.
You are truly delusional if you think Jews were ever populous enough to run anything in Poland.

Sure, so oppressed that Jews made up over 30% of doctors, and over 50% of lawyers, despite making up 10% of !Poland.
That is where intellectual and educational superiority reveals itself.

Sure, so smart that many of them can't figure out that Germans did the Holocaust.
I am sure that the vast majority of them understand that it was the Germans who organized that.

But as I can understand, the Jews don't regard Poland too high even despite the fact that the Poles are at the top of list among the Righteous. Obviously, there is the cause of that.

jews were a persecuted people in Poland for centuries-----HOWEVER---
there was a polish intelligentsia-----far enlightened above the brutish and
illiterate masses------people who actually woke up during the AGE OF
ENGLIGHTENMENT------and tended to speak French and unlike most
poles-----were literate
 
For centuries, almost from the times of its creation and to the final participation of Poland, the Polish state was utterly friendly to the Jews. The number of the Jews living there highly exceeded the numbers in any other parts of Europe, and what is more important they experienced great freedoms; persecutions especially organized ones were quite a rare.

The situation began to differ when Poland became a part of neighboring empires. Anti-Jewish sentiments were growing since then and according to some opinions they were encouraged by occupying authorities, especially in the Russian Empire.

During WWII a catastrophe occurred when 90 percent of them were persecuted. There are various accounts about the Poles and their role in this. From the one hand, the Poles exceed other nations among the Righteous and the level of collaborators with the Nazis is low.
From the other, some Poles also took part in atrocities and as a whole they were quite passive in defending the Jews. Moreover, those rescuers were often condemned by their neighbours and even after the Nazis were defeated they experienced harassment and some of them were forced to leave their places.

I know that on this forum there are many people with Jewish origin. What is your opinion about the Poles and their role in WWII?
Others are also welcomed with their opinions about the matter.
Poland was partitioned and ceased to exist during the 18th century.
 

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