Plot to behead Pamela Geller

[Kondor3]

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims...

Bingo.

 

[MaryL]

What other religion other than Islam puts out death decrees on anyone or any group that is outside their circle. This is getting old, Islam isn't about tolerance or acceptance. I know Islam well enough, and it is no blessing.

 

[jillian]

We need to give them an attitude adjustment RIGHT NOW, violence or not. As the Explanatory Memorandum (shown in Post 950) clearly shows, subversion and defeat of America is the Muslim Brotherhood's goal, and is what they've BEEN DOING, and continue to do (mostly using the courts), to Islamize America, and change it into an Islamic country.

Sounds like the MO of the left, doesn't it?

It clearly IS the MO of the left. The UCLA, MALDEF, La Raza et al of the left have been running to the courts to undo the people's will for years. Like with Propositions to keep illegal aliens from getting welfare in California. Millions of people vote to stop it. One judge turns it around.

what are you blathering about? that's what the courts are THERE for.... to protect people from well, people like you, who would divest them of their rights.

the mob doesn't get to vote away people rights.

 

[protectionist]

what are you blathering about? that's what the courts are THERE for.... to protect people from well, people like you, who would divest them of their rights.

the mob doesn't get to vote away people rights.

You didn't get the point of the post (or are pretending you didn't) The ACLU, CAIR, Southern Poverty Laughingstock Center, La Raza, MALDEF, and other liberal groups use the courts IMPROPERLY. They go "judge shopping". Ever hear of that ? If you only absorb liberal media, you won't, They never mention it. These anti-American traitors find a judge that they know will render a verdict in their favor. When they find just the right activist one, THEN they file suit, annuling the people's will, established by millions of votes cast by the people (whom you call a "mob" - nice try). It is a complete sabatoge of democracy, and you fall for it.

 

[irosie91]

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims. And non Muslims are held to be well, targets. Infidels. We are just targets to THEM. We understand Islam perfectly well. Good Muslims are like good Nazis. I won't the beg the difference anymore.

not exactly-----muslim societies do not function well in the ABSENCE of a subjugated population. ----the subjugated
population can be either slaves of dhimmis.
ALL shariah societies have these groups---when they RUN out of a subjugated group----they make one on a
pretext of "takfir" ----ie declare a section
of the population "not muslim"----or somehow otherwise "marred" In some cases descendants of conquered people
even if converted to islam-----can remain
subjugated.

I am not a scolar

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims. And non Muslims are held to be well, targets. Infidels. We are just targets to THEM. We understand Islam perfectly well. Good Muslims are like good Nazis. I won't the beg the difference anymore.

not exactly-----muslim societies do not function well in the ABSENCE of a subjugated population. ----the subjugated
population can be either slaves of dhimmis.
ALL shariah societies have these groups---when they RUN out of a subjugated group----they make one on a
pretext of "takfir" ----ie declare a section
of the population "not muslim"----or somehow otherwise "marred" In some cases descendants of conquered people
even if converted to islam-----can remain
subjugated.

Islam means submission. A basic premise of Islam is to conquer and dominate. Sharia law isn't about tolerance or open minded people.

believe it or not----muslims are TAUGHT---in fact the general education in muslim dominated countries includes the LUDICROUS idea that ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT TOLERANCE and the MOST
FANTASTICALLY TOLERANT SYSTEM IN THE WORLD. -----there are reasons-----for example----did you know that "ANYONE" can convert to islam? ----isn't that PROOF ENOUGH FOR YOU?. Ask any 14 year old muslim kid about the EXQUISITE tolerance of islam and I would give it 20 minutes at most before you get told ------"we accept all people as muslims"------the kid will not even know that
the non-takers get their throats slit----because that information is obscured----lots of muslims live their entire lives BELIEVING IT

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

I wouldn't lift a finger to defend that crazy Jew bitch.

You know, one day I'm going to have to compile a list of all of your most racist quotes. It'll be a fun project.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So if some Muslim beheaded Pam Gellar it would be a terrorist attack, but some rightwing white supremacist kills 9 blacks in a church and that's not a terrorist attack.

jesus, really?

 

[Jroc]

So, you are simply going to accept all the radical Muslims, many who live here in the states, and expect everyone else to tiptoe around and be careful not to offend them? That sends a message that we will bend over and do whatever it takes to appease them. And we would have to continue it forever.

I would rather the radicals be the ones who change or leave. We have freedom of speech and people get offended every day. Either learn to turn the other cheek or you face the consequences of your actions.

If we give in on this, there will be a new demand to be met, and so on. The radicals aren't going to be content to live among infidels and they are merely doing this to try and scare us into following their rules. It's sad that the left seems so willing to go along with it.

As usual, the left is bashing the wrong ones. Not a word against the animals who plot to murder innocent people.

And you guys think it's funny when people want to stand up for their rights? You act as if the Muslims are justified for threatening those who offend them. Fucking sheep. You are the reason this country is going to hell.

that isn't the choice.

Pamela geller is disgusting. she stood there holding children at gunpoint while shrieking that they appeared threatending.

just sitting in a car?

she doesn't do her cause any good. she makes people with legitimate concerns look like idiots.

You don't need much help to look like an idiot...Most of you blind leftist have that in common

 

[Kondor3]

So if some Muslim beheaded Pam Gellar it would be a terrorist attack, but some rightwing white supremacist kills 9 blacks in a church and that's not a terrorist attack.

jesus, really?

Or, alternatively, people distinguish between Domestic and Foreign terrorists, and aren't as afraid-of or worried about Domestic ones?

With respect to Islam... because it is a non-Western belief-system... alien-to and arguably incompatible-with The West... it's considered Foreign?

Even when the practitioner is an American citizen?

Because Islamic Terrorism is seen to advance the cause of Foreign Interests?

Foreign Interests on a broad and global scale, rather than something as 'local' as American racism?

That's my own first guess.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[JoeB131]

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims...

Bingo.

Well, they must really suck at it, as the Middle East if full of non-Muslim groups that have thrived for centuries. Not only Christians and Jews, but Zoroasterians, Mandeans, Samaritans, Druze, Yazidis,

Meanwhile, in the Christian World, when was the last time you met a follower of Odin or Zeus or Quezacoatl or any of the other "not Jesus" Sky Pixies? When was the last time you met a Hugonaut or a Albigensian, or a Hussite? Oh, that's right, you don't because Christians totally exterminated those folks.

 

[Jroc]

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims...

Bingo.

Well, they must really suck at it, as the Middle East if full of non-Muslim groups that have thrived for centuries. Not only Christians and Jews, but Zoroasterians, Mandeans, Samaritans, Druze, Yazidis,

Meanwhile, in the Christian World, when was the last time you met a follower of Odin or Zeus or Quezacoatl or any of the other "not Jesus" Sky Pixies? When was the last time you met a Hugonaut or a Albigensian, or a Hussite? Oh, that's right, you don't because Christians totally exterminated those folks.

Not many Christians left in the middle east, and you happily wait for the day when when the rest of the Jews are slaughtered

 

[Kondor3]

One of Islam's basic tenants is to eradicate non Muslims...

Bingo.

Well, they must really suck at it, as the Middle East if full of non-Muslim groups that have thrived for centuries. Not only Christians and Jews, but Zoroasterians, Mandeans, Samaritans, Druze, Yazidis,

Meanwhile, in the Christian World, when was the last time you met a follower of Odin or Zeus or Quezacoatl or any of the other "not Jesus" Sky Pixies? When was the last time you met a Hugonaut or a Albigensian, or a Hussite? Oh, that's right, you don't because Christians totally exterminated those folks.

Joe...

Your well-known hatred of All Things Christian blinds you to several truths.

Not the least of which, is that, while Organized Christianity did, indeed, serve-up great slaughter in the name of Jesus, repeatedly, throughout much of Western History, but that when it did so, it did so in direct CONTRAVENTION to the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

On the other hand, when Islam has done these things, it has done so in direct COMPLIANCE with the Core Teachings of Muhammed.

HUGE frigging difference.

And, Islam is STILL doing such things TODAY.

As a matter of fact - after decades or centuries under the European Imperial heel - it is re-awakening and re-militarizing on a GLOBAL scale, to start this shit all over again.

On the other hand - in the main - Christianity gave-up on that shit after the Thirty Years War (1618-1648), the better part of four centuries ago.

Oh, sure, there have been flare-ups since then, but nothing on a regional or global scale, fueled primarily by so-called Religious Motivation, for several centuries.

Meanwhile, Christianity has, in large part, on the macro-level, completed the process of maturing, to rest more easily alongside the Secular World, and to Reform, and to re-discover its roots - roots of Peace and Love and Truth - even though many of its practitioners and nations in which it dominates have not yet caught up to that maturation outcome.

Your rock-throwing at the belief-system of your own Western heritage and your routine taking-of-sides-with and making-excuses-for Islam is revealing in its own right.

You endlessly harp on past Christian "sins" while turning a blind eye towards and making excuses for and taking sides with the present-day and growing "sins" of Islam.

You are a moral relativist and (intentional or otherwise) fifth-columnist who does little more than speak out against your own kind to the benefit of The Adversary.

As to the Middle East being full of non-Muslim groups that have thrived for centuries...

Yeah... under the heel of Islam, before Islam itself was subdued in large part by the European Imperialists of the 18th and 19th and 20th.

Mostly as Dhimmis... second-class citizens who were marginalized and kept on the outskirts of mainstream society due to their different religious beliefs.

And now, of course, these same groups are fast becoming the targets of these same re-awakening and re-militarizing Muslims, even though they are blameless.

Your attempts at deflecting attention away from the very real and unique dangers posed by Islam in our present age will continue to fail.

So long as people who know better can find the energy and backbone to call your bullshit for what it is.

 

[JoeB131]

Not many Christians left in the middle east, and you happily wait for the day when when the rest of the Jews are slaughtered

You mean the ones who stole someone else's land and wonder why they are being attacked for it.

Yes, seeing Natural Selection in action is always interesting.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe...

Your well-known hatred of All Things Christian blinds you to several truths.

Not the least of which, is that, while Organized Christianity did, indeed, serve-up great slaughter in the name of Jesus, repeatedly, throughout much of Western History, but that when it did so, it did so in direct CONTRAVENTION to the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

On the other hand, when Islam has done these things, it has done so in direct COMPLIANCE with the Core Teachings of Muhammed.

YOu know what, guy, you keep babbling this shit, but my guess is, you have probably never read the Koran outside of verses taken out of context on Islamophobic Hate Websites.

The point is, christians did serve up lots of slaughter, with the Church leading the way. So apparently, Jesus didn't make his point very clearly.

 

[Flipper]

I wouldn't lift a finger to defend that crazy Jew bitch.

....and nobody here would lift a finger to defend your ignorant redskin ass.

See how that works Pocahontas?

 

[Kondor3]

...YOu know what, guy, you keep babbling this shit, but my guess is, you have probably never read the Koran outside of verses taken out of context on Islamophobic Hate Websites...

Incorrect.

I purchased a reliable English-language translation on September 12, 2001, and, in the following weeks, read it, cover to cover, and contemplated its content.

I have also sortied (although not as thoroughly) into Hadith and Sunnah and other commentary.

Why?

"Know thine enemy".

Difficult to get inside The Adversary's head without at least some serviceable modicum of understanding of what passes for thought, within.

You, on the other hand, appear to have studied same for other purposes.

Which makes me wonder whether you're quite as hostile to ALL religion, or just those not following a certain Prophet (Peanut Butter and jelly be Upon Him).

But, none of that matters a damn... I have, indeed, made some semi-serious study of Islamic thought, within the past decade-and-a-half, and drawn the proper conclusions.

It's just not the range of conclusions that you would have liked.

Oh, well.

...The point is, christians did serve up lots of slaughter, with the Church leading the way. So apparently, Jesus didn't make his point very clearly.

Oh, Jesus made his points very clearly indeed.

It's just that those professing to adhere to his Spiritual Path most frequently choose to ignore much of what he taught, styling it as an admirable and worthwhile collection of un-attainable ideals, adhering to some as best they may, while writing off others as impractical, with respect to day-to-day exigencies.

And, I see you continue to dodge the Main Bullet here, to wit:

The idea that Christendom no longer engages in large-scale religious warfare, whereas a re-awakening and re-militarizing Islam is doing just that, and preparing to start-up this old shit in the world, all over again - a highly UNdesirable state of affairs, and a condition to be discouraged - and, when need be, fought against - at virtually all costs.

Those who attempt to minimize the danger posted by a re-militarizing Islam are either delusional or true fifth-columnnists.

 

[protectionist]

YOu know what, guy, you keep babbling this shit, but my guess is, you have probably never read the Koran outside of verses taken out of context on Islamophobic Hate Websites.

The point is, christians did serve up lots of slaughter, with the Church leading the way. So apparently, Jesus didn't make his point very clearly.

HA HA HA. "out of context" The Islamapologist # 1 deflection tool. What's really funny about it though, is that they have the audacity (and/or stupidity) to think that after all these years of us protectionists laughing at them, that they could still actually get away with it. Wow. Pheeeeeeeeww!! (high-pitched whistle, eyes rolling around in head)

And, they still think they can get away with using the idiot word "Islamaphobic" (which of course we all know doesn't exist, after 25,000 jihadist attacks since 9-11, including many in the US)

 

[Flipper]

Joe...

Your well-known hatred of All Things Christian blinds you to several truths.

Not the least of which, is that, while Organized Christianity did, indeed, serve-up great slaughter in the name of Jesus, repeatedly, throughout much of Western History, but that when it did so, it did so in direct CONTRAVENTION to the Core Teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

On the other hand, when Islam has done these things, it has done so in direct COMPLIANCE with the Core Teachings of Muhammed.

YOu know what, guy, you keep babbling this shit, but my guess is, you have probably never read the Koran outside of verses taken out of context on Islamophobic Hate Websites.

The point is, christians did serve up lots of slaughter, with the Church leading the way. So apparently, Jesus didn't make his point very clearly.

When one uses the "out of context" defense the one using it usually is ignorant of said "context".

 

[JoeB131]

...YOu know what, guy, you keep babbling this shit, but my guess is, you have probably never read the Koran outside of verses taken out of context on Islamophobic Hate Websites...

Incorrect.

I purchased a reliable English-language translation on September 12, 2001, and, in the following weeks, read it, cover to cover, and contemplated its content.

I have also sortied (although not as thoroughly) into Hadith and Sunnah and other commentary.

Why?

"Know thine enemy".

Difficult to get inside The Adversary's head without at least some serviceable modicum of understanding of what passes for thought, within.

You, on the other hand, appear to have studied same for other purposes.

Which makes me wonder whether you're quite as hostile to ALL religion, or just those not following a certain Prophet (Peanut Butter and jelly be Upon Him).

But, none of that matters a damn... I have, indeed, made some semi-serious study of Islamic thought, within the past decade-and-a-half, and drawn the proper conclusions.

It's just not the range of conclusions that you would have liked.

Oh, well.

...The point is, christians did serve up lots of slaughter, with the Church leading the way. So apparently, Jesus didn't make his point very clearly.

Oh, Jesus made his points very clearly indeed.

It's just that those professing to adhere to his Spiritual Path most frequently choose to ignore much of what he taught, styling it as an admirable and worthwhile collection of un-attainable ideals, adhering to some as best they may, while writing off others as impractical, with respect to day-to-day exigencies.

And, I see you continue to dodge the Main Bullet here, to wit:

The idea that Christendom no longer engages in large-scale religious warfare, whereas a re-awakening and re-militarizing Islam is doing just that, and preparing to start-up this old shit in the world, all over again - a highly UNdesirable state of affairs, and a condition to be discouraged - and, when need be, fought against - at virtually all costs.

Those who attempt to minimize the danger posted by a re-militarizing Islam are either delusional or true fifth-columnnists.

So that whole spew of word Diarrhea, and not one verse from the Koran IN CONTEXT backing up your contention.

 

[JoeB131]

HA HA HA. "out of context" The Islamapologist # 1 deflection tool. What's really funny about it though, is that they have the audacity (and/or stupidity) to think that after all these years of us protectionists laughing at them, that they could still actually get away with it. Wow. Pheeeeeeeeww!! (high-pitched whistle, eyes rolling around in head)

And, they still think they can get away with using the idiot word "Islamaphobic" (which of course we all know doesn't exist, after 25,000 jihadist attacks since 9-11, including many in the US)

I'm sure you are very brave while the real fighting men are out there protecting your basement...