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Expect more of this. What's happening on Wall Street right now is only the beginning.
The beginning of what, drama queen?
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Expect more of this. What's happening on Wall Street right now is only the beginning.
What's the big 'shock' here? They were probably told about a dozen times to move over so that barricade could be put in place. They didn't move and so were made to move through non-lethal means. Did these airheads imagine that they would 'occupy' part of the city (as pathetic as the attempt turned out to be) and receive hot chocolate and back rubs from the law enforcement officers there to protect ALL the people and maintain some degree of order? Just think, if that kid had stayed home she would have missed out on her dramatic crying in the streets moment. She'll be living off that story for years.
Those ladies were being DETAINED.
Did you not notice that they were being held in a holding area and surrounded by cops?
You can't just shut down traffic and pedestrians.
It's against the law.
Then when Police tried to pen them, to keep them on the side walks, they got violent.
Occupy Wall Street demonstrations shut down NYC streets - YouTube
You can't just shut down traffic and pedestrians.
It's against the law.
Then when Police tried to pen them, to keep them on the side walks, they got violent.
Occupy Wall Street demonstrations shut down NYC streets - YouTube
What's the big 'shock' here? They were probably told about a dozen times to move over so that barricade could be put in place. They didn't move and so were made to move through non-lethal means. Did these airheads imagine that they would 'occupy' part of the city (as pathetic as the attempt turned out to be) and receive hot chocolate and back rubs from the law enforcement officers there to protect ALL the people and maintain some degree of order? Just think, if that kid had stayed home she would have missed out on her dramatic crying in the streets moment. She'll be living off that story for years.
Those ladies were being DETAINED.
Did you not notice that they were being held in a holding area and surrounded by cops?
They were not.
The mesh was being deployed to keep people from blocking the street. did you not notice them calmly asking the officer where he wanted them to go?
Boo hoo hoo, protestors breaking the law got maced, maybe next time we should just shoot them.
What's the big 'shock' here? They were probably told about a dozen times to move over so that barricade could be put in place. They didn't move and so were made to move through non-lethal means. Did these airheads imagine that they would 'occupy' part of the city (as pathetic as the attempt turned out to be) and receive hot chocolate and back rubs from the law enforcement officers there to protect ALL the people and maintain some degree of order? Just think, if that kid had stayed home she would have missed out on her dramatic crying in the streets moment. She'll be living off that story for years.
Those ladies were being DETAINED.
Did you not notice that they were being held in a holding area and surrounded by cops?
You can't just shut down traffic and pedestrians.
It's against the law.
Then when Police tried to pen them, to keep them on the side walks, they got violent.
Occupy Wall Street demonstrations shut down NYC streets - YouTube
Boo hoo hoo, protestors breaking the law got maced, maybe next time we should just shoot them.
they were.....they were standing behind a fucking Barricade....your as about as brave as that fucking Cop....has anyone called you a Dick lately?.....
What's the big 'shock' here? They were probably told about a dozen times to move over so that barricade could be put in place. They didn't move and so were made to move through non-lethal means. Did these airheads imagine that they would 'occupy' part of the city (as pathetic as the attempt turned out to be) and receive hot chocolate and back rubs from the law enforcement officers there to protect ALL the people and maintain some degree of order? Just think, if that kid had stayed home she would have missed out on her dramatic crying in the streets moment. She'll be living off that story for years.
Those ladies were being DETAINED.
Did you not notice that they were being held in a holding area and surrounded by cops?
I am kind of curious as to the circumstances leading up to this. Obviouisly, the cops were trying to control a crowd. I am not sure what the red barricade was for or why the people were gathered behind it.
I would like to know more before making a judgment. My initial reaction is to not get too excited about this. It looks as though the crowd was not responding to what the police wanted them to do. If what the cops wanted them to do was reasonable, then maybe pepper spraying them when they refused to do it was not so unreasonable.
Sound reasonable?
The Police Departments chief spokesman, Paul J. Browne, said the police had used the pepper spray appropriately.
Pepper spray was used once, he added, after individuals confronted officers and tried to prevent them from deploying a mesh barrier something that was edited out or otherwise not captured in the video.
As usual you've got people taking a short clip of protesters being "assaulted" by the police without showing the confrontations that went on before pepper spray was used. The police were trying to keep protesters from blocking the street, forcing them back and then arresting them if they persisted. Things were getting more and more confrontational and one of the cops pulled his pepper spray and used it to disperse the crowd. Cry me a river....
Watch the longer video to get a better idea of the scene.
Occupy Wall Street: help us reconstruct the 'pepper spray' incident | World news | guardian.co.uk
Boo hoo hoo, protestors breaking the law got maced, maybe next time we should just shoot them.
they were.....they were standing behind a fucking Barricade....your as about as brave as that fucking Cop....has anyone called you a Dick lately?.....
They were part of a crowd that was repeatedly darting out from behind the barricade and trying to block the street. The situation was getting more and more out of hand. The pepper spray got things back under control. Sorry, Harry...I just don't see this as cowardly...it's just somebody doing their job. I suppose the cops could have let things escalate to the point where they had to swing night sticks...would that have made you happier?
Boo hoo hoo, protestors breaking the law got maced, maybe next time we should just shoot them.
they were.....they were standing behind a fucking Barricade....your as about as brave as that fucking Cop....has anyone called you a Dick lately?.....
They were part of a crowd that was repeatedly darting out from behind the barricade and trying to block the street. The situation was getting more and more out of hand. The pepper spray got things back under control. Sorry, Harry...I just don't see this as cowardly...it's just somebody doing their job. I suppose the cops could have let things escalate to the point where they had to swing night sticks...would that have made you happier?
I don't know what you saw but I saw quite a bit of footage on Lawrence O'Donnell's program, none of which showed anyone doing anything that called for the kind of behavior exhibited by some of those cops. What I saw were a few cops, including brass, using excessive force against several passive individuals. I didn't see anything which actually appeared to be disorderly or even uncooperative.They were part of a crowd that was repeatedly darting out from behind the barricade and trying to block the street. The situation was getting more and more out of hand. The pepper spray got things back under control. Sorry, Harry...I just don't see this as cowardly...it's just somebody doing their job. I suppose the cops could have let things escalate to the point where they had to swing night sticks...would that have made you happier?
they were.....they were standing behind a fucking Barricade....your as about as brave as that fucking Cop....has anyone called you a Dick lately?.....
They were part of a crowd that was repeatedly darting out from behind the barricade and trying to block the street. The situation was getting more and more out of hand. The pepper spray got things back under control. Sorry, Harry...I just don't see this as cowardly...it's just somebody doing their job. I suppose the cops could have let things escalate to the point where they had to swing night sticks...would that have made you happier?
They were not part of any crowd that was doing that.
The officer that pepper sprayed them walked up from some distance away, and had the spray in his hand before he even got there. He then sprayed without any warning at all, and actually violated NYPD guidelines that say pepper spray should only be used to on a suspect who is resisting arrest. That last part means that, even if your absurd version of the events was true, he was wrong because they were not resisting arrest.
I don't know what you saw but I saw quite a bit of footage on Lawrence O'Donnell's program, none of which showed anyone doing anything that called for the kind of behavior exhibited by some of those cops. What I saw were a few cops, including brass, using excessive force against several passive individuals. I didn't see anything which actually appeared to be disorderly or even uncooperative.They were part of a crowd that was repeatedly darting out from behind the barricade and trying to block the street. The situation was getting more and more out of hand. The pepper spray got things back under control. Sorry, Harry...I just don't see this as cowardly...it's just somebody doing their job. I suppose the cops could have let things escalate to the point where they had to swing night sticks...would that have made you happier?
For several years prior to the Rodney King incident in California LAPD's Chief, Daryl Gates, responded to charges of excessive force by referring to his cops' sometimes brutal behavior as preventive aggression, a euphemistic snow job he got away with several times. But the problem with that kind of expedient vindication is it imparted a sense of omnipotence and immunity to his cops, some of whom eventually thought it was okay to publicly administer some preventive aggression to Rodney King.