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Just pointing out that stupidity and lies exist on BOTH sides...
Fair enough but don't you think pelosi should be above that? She's not just some random poster on usmb ya know.
I do, indeed. But let's be honest here, what was the last "good" thing Nancy Pelosi did for this country? I mean, really...
Does it matter if she has dirt? Newt is one of the biggest progressive liberals on the stage and shocker, you support him... Then you get pissed off when you're called out for it.
No he isnt. He is what I call a consevaitve moderate. He has personal conservative values, but aware that the US is not a land of all conservatives...so if he is to govern it properly, he will need to govern more from the middle.I am a conservative...and as a conservative I believe it is not my place or my Presidents place to dictate my or his ideology on the country as a whole.
One day we will learn there are two things not good for the US...
A conservative president who will only apporove of conservativce ideas...and a liberal president whoi will only apporve of liberal ideas.
And just as I cringed at us having a democratic majority in both houses with a democratic president, I will cringe when we have a republican majority in both houses with a republican president.
Does it matter if she has dirt? Newt is one of the biggest progressive liberals on the stage and shocker, you support him... Then you get pissed off when you're called out for it.
No he isnt. He is what I call a consevaitve moderate. He has personal conservative values, but aware that the US is not a land of all conservatives...so if he is to govern it properly, he will need to govern more from the middle.
I am a conservative...and as a conservative I believe it is not my place or my Presidents place to dictate my or his ideology on the country as a whole.
One day we will learn there are two things not good for the US...
A conservative president who will only apporove of conservativce ideas...and a liberal president whoi will only apporve of liberal ideas.
And just as I cringed at us having a democratic majority in both houses with a democratic president, I will cringe when we have a republican majority in both houses with a republican president.
Does it matter if she has dirt? Newt is one of the biggest progressive liberals on the stage and shocker, you support him... Then you get pissed off when you're called out for it.
No he isnt. He is what I call a consevaitve moderate. He has personal conservative values, but aware that the US is not a land of all conservatives...so if he is to govern it properly, he will need to govern more from the middle.I am a conservative...and as a conservative I believe it is not my place or my Presidents place to dictate my or his ideology on the country as a whole.
One day we will learn there are two things not good for the US...
A conservative president who will only apporove of conservativce ideas...and a liberal president whoi will only apporve of liberal ideas.
And just as I cringed at us having a democratic majority in both houses with a democratic president, I will cringe when we have a republican majority in both houses with a republican president.
Many right wingers on this board call them RINOs...
Does it matter if she has dirt? Newt is one of the biggest progressive liberals on the stage and shocker, you support him... Then you get pissed off when you're called out for it.
I'm not pissed off. You give yourself too much credit son.
Ok... But you run to defend the biggest of the flip flopping progressive liberals on the Republican stage.
Again, who cares if Pelosi has dirt, Newts own words on video should be enough...
Does it matter if she has dirt? Newt is one of the biggest progressive liberals on the stage and shocker, you support him... Then you get pissed off when you're called out for it.
No he isnt. He is what I call a consevaitve moderate. He has personal conservative values, but aware that the US is not a land of all conservatives...so if he is to govern it properly, he will need to govern more from the middle.
I am a conservative...and as a conservative I believe it is not my place or my Presidents place to dictate my or his ideology on the country as a whole.
One day we will learn there are two things not good for the US...
A conservative president who will only apporove of conservativce ideas...and a liberal president whoi will only apporve of liberal ideas.
And just as I cringed at us having a democratic majority in both houses with a democratic president, I will cringe when we have a republican majority in both houses with a republican president.
Sorry but Newt was for the mandate it Obama's HC and is also for expanding the patriot act as well as pre emtive war with Iran... Newt is not a moderate, he is anti the constitution and pro big Government.
A Presidents job is to uphold th constitution, not slowly destroy it and call themself a moderate.
I'm not pissed off. You give yourself too much credit son.
Ok... But you run to defend the biggest of the flip flopping progressive liberals on the Republican stage.
Again, who cares if Pelosi has dirt, Newts own words on video should be enough...
Why do you even bother with me? We will never agree on what "i" think. I have one vote and your obsession with it is unhealthy. Move on
If Newt has nothing to hide....let's see the files
I bet there is a ton of dirt on Newt that never came out
Ok... But you run to defend the biggest of the flip flopping progressive liberals on the Republican stage.
Again, who cares if Pelosi has dirt, Newts own words on video should be enough...
Why do you even bother with me? We will never agree on what "i" think. I have one vote and your obsession with it is unhealthy. Move on
Like TM I point out the stupidity and hate that makes you up not so that you will change your opinion or vote, but so that others can see the damage Neocons have done to the country.
Anyways I won't change your vote, whoever polls the best will change your vote.
No he isnt. He is what I call a consevaitve moderate. He has personal conservative values, but aware that the US is not a land of all conservatives...so if he is to govern it properly, he will need to govern more from the middle.
I am a conservative...and as a conservative I believe it is not my place or my Presidents place to dictate my or his ideology on the country as a whole.
One day we will learn there are two things not good for the US...
A conservative president who will only apporove of conservativce ideas...and a liberal president whoi will only apporve of liberal ideas.
And just as I cringed at us having a democratic majority in both houses with a democratic president, I will cringe when we have a republican majority in both houses with a republican president.
Sorry but Newt was for the mandate it Obama's HC and is also for expanding the patriot act as well as pre emtive war with Iran... Newt is not a moderate, he is anti the constitution and pro big Government.
A Presidents job is to uphold th constitution, not slowly destroy it and call themself a moderate.
Newt did not approve of the mandate. He correctly pointed out that the mandate is a requirement for any health care plan to work without pre-existing conditions clauses.
I am agianst the patriot act...but I am smart enough to know that there is not a single candidate that I will agree 100% with on all issues.
I am not for or against a pre-emptive war with Iran. I do not know enough about what is really going on there thanks to our media who are more interested in investigative reporting as it pertains to Paris Brittany and Kim K.
It's called stirring the pot and she did it pretty well.
Newts poll numbers are continuing to rise.
Operation Display Stupidity failed.
She did succeed in publicly displaying her own ineptness however.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi now says she is not sitting on a trove of opposition research on former House Speaker-turned-GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich.
In an interview conducted Friday and published Monday, Pelosi hinted that once the time is right she has some juicy stories to tell about her former colleague.
One of these days well have a conversation about Newt Gingrich, Pelosi, D-Calif., told Talking Points Memo. I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him. Four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.
But this afternoon, Pelosis spokesman, Drew Hammill, suggested that her comments have been misconstrued beyond the leaders intent.
Pelosi Not Sitting on Trove of Gingrich Secrets - ABC News
Misconstrued my ass. This stupid hack got caught with her foot in her mouth. She may be able to hide from her own words as far as the left is concerned but we all know the deal. This is just the tip of the iceberg for the left.
"Fuck the facts,offer the dirt" is the new montra of the democrats in power. It's like a daytime soap opera with these guys.
Yeah....you're right. Hey, how did that whole "Birther" movement from the right turn out, by the way? Remember during the campaign when the righties on this board were calling Obama a terrorist? A ******? A member of Al-Quaeda?
Sorry but Newt was for the mandate it Obama's HC and is also for expanding the patriot act as well as pre emtive war with Iran... Newt is not a moderate, he is anti the constitution and pro big Government.
A Presidents job is to uphold th constitution, not slowly destroy it and call themself a moderate.
Newt did not approve of the mandate. He correctly pointed out that the mandate is a requirement for any health care plan to work without pre-existing conditions clauses.
I am agianst the patriot act...but I am smart enough to know that there is not a single candidate that I will agree 100% with on all issues.
I am not for or against a pre-emptive war with Iran. I do not know enough about what is really going on there thanks to our media who are more interested in investigative reporting as it pertains to Paris Brittany and Kim K.
Ok, but Newt supports the mandate, just like he supports cap and trade... Newt supported Obamas push in Libya then flip flopped Newt supports Global warming, then flip flopped Newt supports Amnesty then flip flops (hell he passed it then didnt enforce it)
You know I don't wana go through all this again, you're a really intelligent guy and I have a lot of respect for you so if you wana support Newt that's fine, but we both know Newt is not a moderate.
I also never said I wanted a full Republican congress with a Republican President, just that having a Republican President and Republican congress that all agree on growing Government is very bad.
Did you hear about the bill that passed the Senate? The one that allows the President to detain and kill American citizens? Its pretty much that extension of the Patriot act that Newt was talking about supporting
Newt did not approve of the mandate. He correctly pointed out that the mandate is a requirement for any health care plan to work without pre-existing conditions clauses.
I am agianst the patriot act...but I am smart enough to know that there is not a single candidate that I will agree 100% with on all issues.
I am not for or against a pre-emptive war with Iran. I do not know enough about what is really going on there thanks to our media who are more interested in investigative reporting as it pertains to Paris Brittany and Kim K.
Ok, but Newt supports the mandate, just like he supports cap and trade... Newt supported Obama’s push in Libya then flip flopped… Newt supports Global warming, then flip flopped… Newt supports Amnesty then flip flops (hell he passed it then didn’t enforce it)…
You know I don't wana go through all this again, you're a really intelligent guy and I have a lot of respect for you so if you wana support Newt that's fine, but we both know Newt is not a moderate.
I also never said I wanted a full Republican congress with a Republican President, just that having a Republican President and Republican congress that all agree on growing Government is very bad.
Did you hear about the bill that passed the Senate? The one that allows the President to detain and kill American citizens? It’s pretty much that extension of the Patriot act that Newt was talking about supporting…
the reason I support Newt is becuase he will be able to work with the other side. Bachmann? She will be blocked just as Obama is being blocked (and for good reason). Paul? Please...neither side will work with him. Santorum? I dont like the guy. He isnt even President yet and he is already complaining about how he is being treated.Perry? Cant figure him out yet. The media hates him and so it is rare you get to see any positives about him. Mitt? Not running too far a second to Newt for me...
Yes, I heard about that bill passing the senate. It takes the Patriot act to another level....kind of scary when you think about it.....It pretty mcuh eleiminates your right to a fair trial as a US citizen...if the president or one of his/her cornies doesnt like you.
It is one step closer to tyranny..for now we have reason to fear our government.
And think of what Pelosi said a couple of years back...she compared Tea Partyers to terrorists....and according to the bill, terrorists of natural born US citizenship can be detained or killed by an order of the president....this has nothing to do with Obama....ANY president should not have that power.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi now says she is not sitting on a trove of opposition research on former House Speaker-turned-GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich.
In an interview conducted Friday and published Monday, Pelosi hinted that once the time is right she has some juicy stories to tell about her former colleague.
One of these days well have a conversation about Newt Gingrich, Pelosi, D-Calif., told Talking Points Memo. I know a lot about him. I served on the investigative committee that investigated him. Four of us locked in a room in an undisclosed location for a year. A thousand pages of his stuff.
But this afternoon, Pelosis spokesman, Drew Hammill, suggested that her comments have been misconstrued beyond the leaders intent.
Pelosi Not Sitting on Trove of Gingrich Secrets - ABC News
Misconstrued my ass. This stupid hack got caught with her foot in her mouth. She may be able to hide from her own words as far as the left is concerned but we all know the deal. This is just the tip of the iceberg for the left.
"Fuck the facts,offer the dirt" is the new montra of the democrats in power. It's like a daytime soap opera with these guys.
Yeah....you're right. Hey, how did that whole "Birther" movement from the right turn out, by the way? Remember during the campaign when the righties on this board were calling Obama a terrorist? A ******? A member of Al-Quaeda?
Pointing to internet forum posters bad behavior does absolutely nothing to diminish Pelosi's dishonesty.
Ok, but Newt supports the mandate, just like he supports cap and trade... Newt supported Obamas push in Libya then flip flopped Newt supports Global warming, then flip flopped Newt supports Amnesty then flip flops (hell he passed it then didnt enforce it)
You know I don't wana go through all this again, you're a really intelligent guy and I have a lot of respect for you so if you wana support Newt that's fine, but we both know Newt is not a moderate.
I also never said I wanted a full Republican congress with a Republican President, just that having a Republican President and Republican congress that all agree on growing Government is very bad.
Did you hear about the bill that passed the Senate? The one that allows the President to detain and kill American citizens? Its pretty much that extension of the Patriot act that Newt was talking about supporting
the reason I support Newt is becuase he will be able to work with the other side. Bachmann? She will be blocked just as Obama is being blocked (and for good reason). Paul? Please...neither side will work with him. Santorum? I dont like the guy. He isnt even President yet and he is already complaining about how he is being treated.Perry? Cant figure him out yet. The media hates him and so it is rare you get to see any positives about him. Mitt? Not running too far a second to Newt for me...
Yes, I heard about that bill passing the senate. It takes the Patriot act to another level....kind of scary when you think about it.....It pretty mcuh eleiminates your right to a fair trial as a US citizen...if the president or one of his/her cornies doesnt like you.
It is one step closer to tyranny..for now we have reason to fear our government.
And think of what Pelosi said a couple of years back...she compared Tea Partyers to terrorists....and according to the bill, terrorists of natural born US citizenship can be detained or killed by an order of the president....this has nothing to do with Obama....ANY president should not have that power.
I guess my question is what do you think Newt will work with the other side to accomplish? Seems to me you support a guy but hate his policy... Newt has no cuts, so spending will remain in a state of growth. Newt supports that bill we talked about, well, he prolly does not now because it won't be popular to but he would more than likely sign it into law if he were President.
So really, what do you think Newt would do that you like, if he were President? If there was at least some of Newts policy I agreed with I could support him but for me there is just not, so him getting his way is a huge loss imo.
Amnesty for illegals?
Mandated HC?
Cap and trade?
More wars?
Expansion of old wars?
More of the Patriot act?
LOL a fence along the Mexico border (how much will that cost lol)?
More deficit spending...
Newt supported TARP.
All these positions are Newts positions, sure you could make a lame attempt to say Newt does not support Amnesty, but he passed it in the past, in his own bill today he has it in there just have to read it like I did
So what is it you want newt to accomplish as President? Talk shit about Obama?
the reason I support Newt is becuase he will be able to work with the other side. Bachmann? She will be blocked just as Obama is being blocked (and for good reason). Paul? Please...neither side will work with him. Santorum? I dont like the guy. He isnt even President yet and he is already complaining about how he is being treated.Perry? Cant figure him out yet. The media hates him and so it is rare you get to see any positives about him. Mitt? Not running too far a second to Newt for me...
Yes, I heard about that bill passing the senate. It takes the Patriot act to another level....kind of scary when you think about it.....It pretty mcuh eleiminates your right to a fair trial as a US citizen...if the president or one of his/her cornies doesnt like you.
It is one step closer to tyranny..for now we have reason to fear our government.
And think of what Pelosi said a couple of years back...she compared Tea Partyers to terrorists....and according to the bill, terrorists of natural born US citizenship can be detained or killed by an order of the president....this has nothing to do with Obama....ANY president should not have that power.
I guess my question is what do you think Newt will work with the other side to accomplish? Seems to me you support a guy but hate his policy... Newt has no cuts, so spending will remain in a state of growth. Newt supports that bill we talked about, well, he prolly does not now because it won't be popular to but he would more than likely sign it into law if he were President.
So really, what do you think Newt would do that you like, if he were President? If there was at least some of Newts policy I agreed with I could support him but for me there is just not, so him getting his way is a huge loss imo.
Amnesty for illegals?
Mandated HC?
Cap and trade?
More wars?
Expansion of old wars?
More of the Patriot act?
LOL a fence along the Mexico border (how much will that cost lol)?
More deficit spending...
Newt supported TARP.
All these positions are Newts positions, sure you could make a lame attempt to say Newt does not support Amnesty, but he passed it in the past, in his own bill today he has it in there just have to read it like I did
So what is it you want newt to accomplish as President? Talk shit about Obama?
I may be naive and a dreamer...I recognize that.
But first lets work from the other end of the spectrum.
What if we get a true conservative in the WH...
Do you think he/she will get anythintg done at all? Sure..if there is a super majority, he/she could....but for how long? One term? And then a super liberal comes in a repeals everything that was done....
I will not make a lame attempt about Newt supporting amnesty. It rally doesnt matter if he does or doesnt. The question is...what will congress do....
Someone like Newt may have supported amnesty before he was against amnesty...so maybe congress will come out with a plan similar to the one he suggested...and both sides can agree with it....and then we start moving forward with securing our borders, and expelling those that truly dont belong....allowing those that have made the one mistake 25 years ago of coming here illegally...but have since done what the rest of us do...add to the community, pay taxes, and work for a living while developing a family and a legacy....
I think where you and I dont see eye to eye on this is that I do not see the President as the most important person in our government. I see him as nothing but a figurehead...
I am mostly wrapped up in congress...and looking for a president that will not be the enemy to congress...as Obama is.
