Paul Ryan - Not even a good liar.

[naturegirl]

Yea, Paul Ryan is scaring the crap out of the Dems.

 

[SniperFire]

OK, so Obama says he's gonna try to keep the Janesville GM plant from closing, it was still running when he was campaigning, he didn't do it. It didn't close until after he took office and Paul Ryan is the liar???

Jesus, can you lefties spin the lies!! Why do you believe everything your crappy sources lie to you about.

Here you go:

UPDATE: Friday, June 20, 2008 --- 8:10 a.m.

JANESVILLE, Wis. (AP) -- General Motors Corp. has informed the state it plans to lay off an additional 96 workers from its Janesville assembly plant by mid-September.

The layoffs announced Thursday are in addition to the 756 workers who'll be let go next month. That's when the factory that makes trucks and other sport utility vehicles will scale back its production shifts from two to one.

In a filing with the state, GM says the latest layoffs will occur in late August or early September.

The auto maker also said Thursday that more than 18,000 employees across the nation have accepted buyout and early retirement offers. That includes 574 workers from the Janesville.

GM will close the plant by 2010 as it changes its focus from larger vehicles to more fuel-efficient ones.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Obama's speech in Janesville happened in February 2008, where he talked about try to stop the closure.

As you can see above, in June of 2008 (4 Months before the election) GM released it's final AP newsreel advising of the closure.

Pretty simple to understand.

Janesville WI closed in June 2009, exactly as Paul Ryan said.


LOL

 

[The Rabbi]

Ryan said Obama did NOTHING, not that he was powerless to move on their findings.

There were no findings because there were no recommendations because there was no report because Paul Ryan blocked it....

Then went on national TV and flat out lied. Again. As usual. And you ate it up because you enjoy being lied to.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

 

[G.T.]

OK, so Obama says he's gonna try to keep the Janesville GM plant from closing, it was still running when he was campaigning, he didn't do it. It didn't close until after he took office and Paul Ryan is the liar???

Jesus, can you lefties spin the lies!! Why do you believe everything your crappy sources lie to you about.

Here you go:

UPDATE: Friday, June 20, 2008 --- 8:10 a.m.

JANESVILLE, Wis. (AP) -- General Motors Corp. has informed the state it plans to lay off an additional 96 workers from its Janesville assembly plant by mid-September.

The layoffs announced Thursday are in addition to the 756 workers who'll be let go next month. That's when the factory that makes trucks and other sport utility vehicles will scale back its production shifts from two to one.

In a filing with the state, GM says the latest layoffs will occur in late August or early September.

The auto maker also said Thursday that more than 18,000 employees across the nation have accepted buyout and early retirement offers. That includes 574 workers from the Janesville.

GM will close the plant by 2010 as it changes its focus from larger vehicles to more fuel-efficient ones.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Obama's speech in Janesville happened in February 2008, where he talked about try to stop the closure.

As you can see above, in June of 2008 (4 Months before the election) GM released it's final AP newsreel advising of the closure.

Pretty simple to understand.

Janesville WI closed in June 2009, exactly as Paul Ryan said.


LOL

And they planned and announced that closure in...

June of 2008. Under George Bush, before Obama had any chance to do anything. It was a lie, as was most of his entire speech.

 

[SniperFire]

There were no findings because there were no recommendations because there was no report because Paul Ryan blocked it....

Then went on national TV and flat out lied. Again. As usual. And you ate it up because you enjoy being lied to.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

8537 is engaged in some strong butthurt right now!


LOL

 

[The Rabbi]

Paul Ryan: Wrong for the Middle Class - YouTube

That was impressive.

The Left is wetting themselves in fear of this guy. Reduced to carping over wording and Youtube videos.
Obama needs to find a mover for January.

 

[Listening]

OK, so Obama says he's gonna try to keep the Janesville GM plant from closing, it was still running when he was campaigning, he didn't do it. It didn't close until after he took office and Paul Ryan is the liar???

Jesus, can you lefties spin the lies!! Why do you believe everything your crappy sources lie to you about.

Here you go:

UPDATE: Friday, June 20, 2008 --- 8:10 a.m.

JANESVILLE, Wis. (AP) -- General Motors Corp. has informed the state it plans to lay off an additional 96 workers from its Janesville assembly plant by mid-September.

The layoffs announced Thursday are in addition to the 756 workers who'll be let go next month. That's when the factory that makes trucks and other sport utility vehicles will scale back its production shifts from two to one.

In a filing with the state, GM says the latest layoffs will occur in late August or early September.

The auto maker also said Thursday that more than 18,000 employees across the nation have accepted buyout and early retirement offers. That includes 574 workers from the Janesville.

GM will close the plant by 2010 as it changes its focus from larger vehicles to more fuel-efficient ones.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Obama's speech in Janesville happened in February 2008, where he talked about try to stop the closure.

As you can see above, in June of 2008 (4 Months before the election) GM released it's final AP newsreel advising of the closure.

Pretty simple to understand.

There just were not enough union votes in Janesville to bother saving it.

That was pretty simple.

 

[The Rabbi]

Here you go:



Obama's speech in Janesville happened in February 2008, where he talked about try to stop the closure.

As you can see above, in June of 2008 (4 Months before the election) GM released it's final AP newsreel advising of the closure.

Pretty simple to understand.

Janesville WI closed in June 2009, exactly as Paul Ryan said.


LOL

And they planned and announced that closure in...

June of 2008. Under George Bush, before Obama had any chance to do anything. It was a lie, as was most of his entire speech.

Obama had every opportunity to re-open the plant. He fired the head of GM. He vetted their advertising. He could certainly have opened the plant.

 

[SniperFire]

Hey Libtards,

When did Janesville WI GM close its doors?

bump


LOL

 

[8537]

There were no findings because there were no recommendations because there was no report because Paul Ryan blocked it....

Then went on national TV and flat out lied. Again. As usual. And you ate it up because you enjoy being lied to.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

There was no recommendations and no report from the committee. Because Paul Ryan actively took steps to ensure that the proposal he now says Obama should have accepted was opposed by the committee.

Do you any data to support Ryan's numerous lies?

 

[G.T.]

There were no findings because there were no recommendations because there was no report because Paul Ryan blocked it....

Then went on national TV and flat out lied. Again. As usual. And you ate it up because you enjoy being lied to.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

No, in fact in 2011 he recommended much of the report's findings to Congress, to act on. They didn't.

So he didn't "do nothing," as Lyin' Ryan stated.

Also, Lyin Ryan did "nothing" also, and he was on the actual fucking committee. Too bad, so sad.

FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

Ryan accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations from a bipartisan presidential commission to reduce the deficit. But Ryan himself was among a minority of commission members whose opposition scuttled the plan and prevented it from being sent automatically to Congress for action.


Ryan: He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanks them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and solutions equal to the problems. How did the president respond? By doing nothing — nothing except to dodge and demagogue the issue.

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform’s report proposed deep spending cuts in both domestic and military spending, and an overhaul of the tax code that would have lowered rates but raised revenues — all in an attempt to slow the growth of government by $4 trillion over 10 years.

Many Republicans, including Ryan, opposed the military cuts and new tax revenue, while many Democrats opposed changes to Social Security that included raising the full retirement age.

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

In a statement on the final report, Ryan said he “could not support the plan in its entirety,” but said some elements of it were “worthy of further pursuit.”

Ryan opposed the commission’s approach to paying for lower federal income tax rates by taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income (see footnote on page 29). In his own latest budget plan, Ryan proposed to keep the current capital gains tax rate, arguing that to do otherwise “could precipitate a flight of capital away from job-creating businesses.”

Like Ryan, Obama thanked the commission in a Dec. 3, 2010, statement that promised to “study closely” its proposals for possible inclusion in his own budget plans. Nine months later, Obama submitted a deficit reduction plan to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction that was designed to reduce the deficit by $3.6 trillion over 10 years through a package of spending cuts and tax hikes.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, tried to work out a so-called “Grand Bargain” that would have reduced the deficit through a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — and even changes to Social Security. The New York Times reported that the Grand Bargain would have raised the retirement age and changed the formula for calculating benefits. But, as the Times reported, the deal fell through as members of Boehner’s caucus objected to raising taxes.

In short, both Ryan and Obama have proposed deficit-reduction plans — and each opposed the other’s plan.

 

[SniperFire]

Janesville WI closed in June 2009, exactly as Paul Ryan said.


LOL

And they planned and announced that closure in...

June of 2008. Under George Bush, before Obama had any chance to do anything. It was a lie, as was most of his entire speech.

Obama had every opportunity to re-open the plant. He fired the head of GM. He vetted their advertising. He could certainly have opened the plant.

In fact, Obama said he had a plan to keep them open for the next 100 years!

 

[8537]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

No, in fact in 2011 he recommended much of the report's findings to Congress, to act on. They didn't.

So he didn't "do nothing," as Lyin' Ryan stated.

Also, Lyin Ryan did "nothing" also, and he was on the actual fucking committee. Too bad, so sad.

FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

Ryan accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations from a bipartisan presidential commission to reduce the deficit. But Ryan himself was among a minority of commission members whose opposition scuttled the plan and prevented it from being sent automatically to Congress for action.


Ryan: He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanks them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and solutions equal to the problems. How did the president respond? By doing nothing — nothing except to dodge and demagogue the issue.

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform’s report proposed deep spending cuts in both domestic and military spending, and an overhaul of the tax code that would have lowered rates but raised revenues — all in an attempt to slow the growth of government by $4 trillion over 10 years.

Many Republicans, including Ryan, opposed the military cuts and new tax revenue, while many Democrats opposed changes to Social Security that included raising the full retirement age.

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

In a statement on the final report, Ryan said he “could not support the plan in its entirety,” but said some elements of it were “worthy of further pursuit.”

Ryan opposed the commission’s approach to paying for lower federal income tax rates by taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income (see footnote on page 29). In his own latest budget plan, Ryan proposed to keep the current capital gains tax rate, arguing that to do otherwise “could precipitate a flight of capital away from job-creating businesses.”

Like Ryan, Obama thanked the commission in a Dec. 3, 2010, statement that promised to “study closely” its proposals for possible inclusion in his own budget plans. Nine months later, Obama submitted a deficit reduction plan to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction that was designed to reduce the deficit by $3.6 trillion over 10 years through a package of spending cuts and tax hikes.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, tried to work out a so-called “Grand Bargain” that would have reduced the deficit through a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — and even changes to Social Security. The New York Times reported that the Grand Bargain would have raised the retirement age and changed the formula for calculating benefits. But, as the Times reported, the deal fell through as members of Boehner’s caucus objected to raising taxes.

In short, both Ryan and Obama have proposed deficit-reduction plans — and each opposed the other’s plan.

Rabbi is not interested in the facts.

 

[SniperFire]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

8537 isn't even a good liar.

'Presidenting is too fucking hard!'

- B. Hussein

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

No, in fact in 2011 he recommended much of the report's findings to Congress, to act on. They didn't.

So he didn't "do nothing," as Lyin' Ryan stated.

Also, Lyin Ryan did "nothing" also, and he was on the actual fucking committee. Too bad, so sad.

FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

Ryan accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations from a bipartisan presidential commission to reduce the deficit. But Ryan himself was among a minority of commission members whose opposition scuttled the plan and prevented it from being sent automatically to Congress for action.


Ryan: He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanks them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and solutions equal to the problems. How did the president respond? By doing nothing — nothing except to dodge and demagogue the issue.

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform’s report proposed deep spending cuts in both domestic and military spending, and an overhaul of the tax code that would have lowered rates but raised revenues — all in an attempt to slow the growth of government by $4 trillion over 10 years.

Many Republicans, including Ryan, opposed the military cuts and new tax revenue, while many Democrats opposed changes to Social Security that included raising the full retirement age.

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

In a statement on the final report, Ryan said he “could not support the plan in its entirety,” but said some elements of it were “worthy of further pursuit.”

Ryan opposed the commission’s approach to paying for lower federal income tax rates by taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income (see footnote on page 29). In his own latest budget plan, Ryan proposed to keep the current capital gains tax rate, arguing that to do otherwise “could precipitate a flight of capital away from job-creating businesses.”

Like Ryan, Obama thanked the commission in a Dec. 3, 2010, statement that promised to “study closely” its proposals for possible inclusion in his own budget plans. Nine months later, Obama submitted a deficit reduction plan to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction that was designed to reduce the deficit by $3.6 trillion over 10 years through a package of spending cuts and tax hikes.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, tried to work out a so-called “Grand Bargain” that would have reduced the deficit through a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — and even changes to Social Security. The New York Times reported that the Grand Bargain would have raised the retirement age and changed the formula for calculating benefits. But, as the Times reported, the deal fell through as members of Boehner’s caucus objected to raising taxes.

In short, both Ryan and Obama have proposed deficit-reduction plans — and each opposed the other’s plan.

So there were findings, then. Is 8537 a fucking liar?

 

[8537]

8537 wins clueless poster of the week.
Simpson-Bowles produced a report. The whole committee did not endorse that report because they fell short on voting for it. That does not mean the report was not available, or its recommendations unknown, or Obama could do nothing about them.
In fact Obama ignored the report and went on to propose budgets that got zero votes in the House.

No, in fact in 2011 he recommended much of the report's findings to Congress, to act on. They didn't.

So he didn't "do nothing," as Lyin' Ryan stated.

Also, Lyin Ryan did "nothing" also, and he was on the actual fucking committee. Too bad, so sad.

FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

Ryan accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations from a bipartisan presidential commission to reduce the deficit. But Ryan himself was among a minority of commission members whose opposition scuttled the plan and prevented it from being sent automatically to Congress for action.


Ryan: He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanks them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and solutions equal to the problems. How did the president respond? By doing nothing — nothing except to dodge and demagogue the issue.

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform’s report proposed deep spending cuts in both domestic and military spending, and an overhaul of the tax code that would have lowered rates but raised revenues — all in an attempt to slow the growth of government by $4 trillion over 10 years.

Many Republicans, including Ryan, opposed the military cuts and new tax revenue, while many Democrats opposed changes to Social Security that included raising the full retirement age.

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

In a statement on the final report, Ryan said he “could not support the plan in its entirety,” but said some elements of it were “worthy of further pursuit.”

Ryan opposed the commission’s approach to paying for lower federal income tax rates by taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income (see footnote on page 29). In his own latest budget plan, Ryan proposed to keep the current capital gains tax rate, arguing that to do otherwise “could precipitate a flight of capital away from job-creating businesses.”

Like Ryan, Obama thanked the commission in a Dec. 3, 2010, statement that promised to “study closely” its proposals for possible inclusion in his own budget plans. Nine months later, Obama submitted a deficit reduction plan to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction that was designed to reduce the deficit by $3.6 trillion over 10 years through a package of spending cuts and tax hikes.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, tried to work out a so-called “Grand Bargain” that would have reduced the deficit through a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — and even changes to Social Security. The New York Times reported that the Grand Bargain would have raised the retirement age and changed the formula for calculating benefits. But, as the Times reported, the deal fell through as members of Boehner’s caucus objected to raising taxes.

In short, both Ryan and Obama have proposed deficit-reduction plans — and each opposed the other’s plan.

So there were findings, then. Is 8537 a fucking liar?

The committee did not produce any findings or recommendations. a few members of the committee published findings and recommendations outside of the committee because Ayn Ryan opposed the proposed recommendations.

 

[8537]

In other words, Ayn Ryan is upset that the President didn't act on the recommendations he opposed.

He lies with impunity.

 

[SniperFire]

No, in fact in 2011 he recommended much of the report's findings to Congress, to act on. They didn't.

So he didn't "do nothing," as Lyin' Ryan stated.

Also, Lyin Ryan did "nothing" also, and he was on the actual fucking committee. Too bad, so sad.

FactCheck.org : Ryan’s VP Spin

Ryan accused Obama of doing “exactly nothing” about recommendations from a bipartisan presidential commission to reduce the deficit. But Ryan himself was among a minority of commission members whose opposition scuttled the plan and prevented it from being sent automatically to Congress for action.


Ryan: He created a new bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanks them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. Republicans stepped up with good-faith reforms and solutions equal to the problems. How did the president respond? By doing nothing — nothing except to dodge and demagogue the issue.

The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform’s report proposed deep spending cuts in both domestic and military spending, and an overhaul of the tax code that would have lowered rates but raised revenues — all in an attempt to slow the growth of government by $4 trillion over 10 years.

Many Republicans, including Ryan, opposed the military cuts and new tax revenue, while many Democrats opposed changes to Social Security that included raising the full retirement age.

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

In a statement on the final report, Ryan said he “could not support the plan in its entirety,” but said some elements of it were “worthy of further pursuit.”

Ryan opposed the commission’s approach to paying for lower federal income tax rates by taxing capital gains and dividends as ordinary income (see footnote on page 29). In his own latest budget plan, Ryan proposed to keep the current capital gains tax rate, arguing that to do otherwise “could precipitate a flight of capital away from job-creating businesses.”

Like Ryan, Obama thanked the commission in a Dec. 3, 2010, statement that promised to “study closely” its proposals for possible inclusion in his own budget plans. Nine months later, Obama submitted a deficit reduction plan to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction that was designed to reduce the deficit by $3.6 trillion over 10 years through a package of spending cuts and tax hikes.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner, a Republican, tried to work out a so-called “Grand Bargain” that would have reduced the deficit through a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts — and even changes to Social Security. The New York Times reported that the Grand Bargain would have raised the retirement age and changed the formula for calculating benefits. But, as the Times reported, the deal fell through as members of Boehner’s caucus objected to raising taxes.

In short, both Ryan and Obama have proposed deficit-reduction plans — and each opposed the other’s plan.

So there were findings, then. Is 8537 a fucking liar?

The committee did not produce any findings or recommendations. a few members of the committee published findings and recommendations outside of the committee because Ayn Ryan opposed the proposed recommendations.

Is G.T. a fucking liar, then?


LOL

 

[8537]

So there were findings, then. Is 8537 a fucking liar?

The committee did not produce any findings or recommendations. a few members of the committee published findings and recommendations outside of the committee because Ayn Ryan opposed the proposed recommendations.

Is G.T. a fucking liar, then?


LOL

No, G.T. is not a "ficking liar". you are. In fact, the truth is right there in the information G.T. provided:

The 18-member commission needed a super majority of 14 votes in order to bring the report to a vote in Congress. But it received the support of just 11 members. Seven members, including Ryan, opposed it, thus blocking congressional action.

 

[SniperFire]

“I believe that if our government is there to support you, this plant will be here for another 100 years.”

- B. Hussein Obama, lying to the Janesville WI GM workers

 

[G.T.]

So there were findings, then. Is 8537 a fucking liar?

The committee did not produce any findings or recommendations. a few members of the committee published findings and recommendations outside of the committee because Ayn Ryan opposed the proposed recommendations.

Is G.T. a fucking liar, then?


LOL

Idiot, I'll slow it down.

The committee created a report.

The report was voted down.

Some of the members, as individuals, published the report's findings. The Committee, as a committee, did not, as they were voted down, thanks to Lyin' Ryan.


It's not that hard.