Palestinians seek statehood, but Gaza is forgotten

Incorrect.

The League of Nations called for the establishment of political and governmental institutions to create a Jewish National Home. Not one word about a Palestine nation



The League of Nations wrote nothing about a Palestine nation nor are Palestinians mentioned.

Jews are mentioned 15 times in the establishment of the Jewish National Home.

You lost the debate.

They were charged with creating a state.



The inhabitants of Palestine. Hmmm, that would be the Palestinians.

the British were charged with creating a Jewish National Home, not a Palestine nation.

There is nothing in the League of Nations' Mandate about a Palestine nation.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.

You lost the debate.

The Jewish national home was to be in Palestine. It was to guaranty equal rights and to assist Jewish immigrants in obtaining Palestinian citizenship.

Palestinian Jews live in the Jewish national home.
 
They were charged with creating a state.



The inhabitants of Palestine. Hmmm, that would be the Palestinians.

the British were charged with creating a Jewish National Home, not a Palestine nation.

There is nothing in the League of Nations' Mandate about a Palestine nation.

The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.

You lost the debate.

The Jewish national home was to be in Palestine. It was to guaranty equal rights and to assist Jewish immigrants in obtaining Palestinian citizenship.

Palestinian Jews live in the Jewish national home.

Incorrect, again.

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home with one government...
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
 
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the British were charged with creating a Jewish National Home, not a Palestine nation.

There is nothing in the League of Nations' Mandate about a Palestine nation.



You lost the debate.

The Jewish national home was to be in Palestine. It was to guaranty equal rights and to assist Jewish immigrants in obtaining Palestinian citizenship.

Palestinian Jews live in the Jewish national home.

Incorrect, again.

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home with one government...
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home...

That is true. Palestine was to be the Jewish national but it was not to be a Jewish state.
 
The Jewish national home was to be in Palestine. It was to guaranty equal rights and to assist Jewish immigrants in obtaining Palestinian citizenship.

Palestinian Jews live in the Jewish national home.

Incorrect, again.

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home with one government...

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home...

That is true. Palestine was to be the Jewish national but it was not to be a Jewish state.

Incorrect, again. The explicit intent of all parties involved are on record as agreeing their objective of the Jewish National Home was the eventuation of a Jewish state.

President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Winston Churchill, Secretary of Palestine...
The conception [Jewish homeland in Palestine] was undoubtedly that if the absorptive capacity over a number of years and the breeding over a number of years, all guided by the British government, gave an increasing Jewish population, that population should not in any way be restricted from reaching a majority position. Certainly, we committed ourselves to the idea that some day, there might well be a great Jewish State there, numbered by millions.

British Prime Minister David Lloyd George...
When the time arrived for according representative institutions to Palestine, if the Jews had meanwhile responded to the opportunity afforded them by the idea of a National Home and had become a definite majority of the inhabitants, then Palestine would thus become a Jewish Commonwealth
 
Incorrect, again.

The "country" was to become the Jewish National Home with one government...



That is true. Palestine was to be the Jewish national but it was not to be a Jewish state.

Incorrect, again. The explicit intent of all parties involved are on record as agreeing their objective of the Jewish National Home was the eventuation of a Jewish state.

President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...


Winston Churchill, Secretary of Palestine...
The conception [Jewish homeland in Palestine] was undoubtedly that if the absorptive capacity over a number of years and the breeding over a number of years, all guided by the British government, gave an increasing Jewish population, that population should not in any way be restricted from reaching a majority position. Certainly, we committed ourselves to the idea that some day, there might well be a great Jewish State there, numbered by millions.

British Prime Minister David Lloyd George...
When the time arrived for according representative institutions to Palestine, if the Jews had meanwhile responded to the opportunity afforded them by the idea of a National Home and had become a definite majority of the inhabitants, then Palestine would thus become a Jewish Commonwealth

Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.
 
That is true. Palestine was to be the Jewish national but it was not to be a Jewish state.

Incorrect, again. The explicit intent of all parties involved are on record as agreeing their objective of the Jewish National Home was the eventuation of a Jewish state.

President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...


Winston Churchill, Secretary of Palestine...


British Prime Minister David Lloyd George...
When the time arrived for according representative institutions to Palestine, if the Jews had meanwhile responded to the opportunity afforded them by the idea of a National Home and had become a definite majority of the inhabitants, then Palestine would thus become a Jewish Commonwealth

Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

Woodrow Wilson founded the League of Nations.
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”
 
all this arguing about Palestine v Israel is ridiculous...let's look at the origins....neither Greek or Hebrew texts ever mention the word Palestine. In fact, ROMANS assigned that name to the ancient land of Israel...not any Arab group or Palestinians..they did not exist...the people were Hebrew or Semites and the land was known as Canaan. All this occurred BEFORE Muhammad or Islam had ever been born.
The name of the city of Jerusalem though did exist and the Romans even tried renaming it.

. The Hebrew term Pelesheth, which refers to the land of the ancient Philistines—Philistia—is erroneously translated in the King James Version as “Palestina” in Exodus 15:14 and in Isaiah 14:29 and 31, and as “Palestine” in Joel 3:4. The New King James Version correctly reads “Philistia”—the land of the Philistines—in every case noted above.

So we can argue about what it is called till the day ends and begins again...fact is Jews were in the world long before either Christianity or Islam were ever born...so they were in the land of the Hebrews first...that said...today is a different time and we need to search for a peaceful solution that does not give one the rights over the other...each need to learn to live with the accords without trying to push the other into the sea...Arabs, not Palestinians, because they are Arabs..there is no ancient Palestinian people, and Jews are the same friggin race..just different religions...either let them live together or let them have their own lands...and make Gaza and the West bank no man's land.
 
Incorrect, again. The explicit intent of all parties involved are on record as agreeing their objective of the Jewish National Home was the eventuation of a Jewish state.

President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...


Winston Churchill, Secretary of Palestine...


British Prime Minister David Lloyd George...

Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

Woodrow Wilson founded the League of Nations.
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Wilson doesn't matter. Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.
 
Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

Woodrow Wilson founded the League of Nations.
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Wilson doesn't matter. Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

The League of Nations no longer exists.
 
Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

Woodrow Wilson founded the League of Nations.
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Wilson doesn't matter. Creating a Jewish state in Palestine would be a violation of the League of Nations charter.

Woodrow Wilson created the League of Nations and its charter. Wilson acknowledged the League's intent for a Jewish state.

You lost the debate. Accept defeat graciously and move on so I can demolish you, again. :clap2:

Legal Scholar Eugene Rostow, former Dean of the Yale Law School, Under Secretary of State and Legal Advisor to the State Department...
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."

The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
 
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all this arguing about Palestine v Israel is ridiculous...let's look at the origins....neither Greek or Hebrew texts ever mention the word Palestine. In fact, ROMANS assigned that name to the ancient land of Israel...not any Arab group or Palestinians..they did not exist...the people were Hebrew or Semites and the land was known as Canaan. All this occurred BEFORE Muhammad or Islam had ever been born.
The name of the city of Jerusalem though did exist and the Romans even tried renaming it.

. The Hebrew term Pelesheth, which refers to the land of the ancient Philistines—Philistia—is erroneously translated in the King James Version as “Palestina” in Exodus 15:14 and in Isaiah 14:29 and 31, and as “Palestine” in Joel 3:4. The New King James Version correctly reads “Philistia”—the land of the Philistines—in every case noted above.

So we can argue about what it is called till the day ends and begins again...fact is Jews were in the world long before either Christianity or Islam were ever born...so they were in the land of the Hebrews first...that said...today is a different time and we need to search for a peaceful solution that does not give one the rights over the other...each need to learn to live with the accords without trying to push the other into the sea...Arabs, not Palestinians, because they are Arabs..there is no ancient Palestinian people, and Jews are the same friggin race..just different religions...either let them live together or let them have their own lands...and make Gaza and the West bank no man's land.

When the state of Palestine was defined by the League of Nations in 1922 the population consisted of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. These people became Palestinians. Whatever they were called before is irrelevant. Most of those people had been there for hundreds even thousands of years. These people can be considered Palestine's native population. There was an amicable relationship among these people.

The Palestinians proposed a democratic state with equal rights for all. None of them, including the Jews, wanted a Jewish state imposed by foreigners.
 
all this arguing about Palestine v Israel is ridiculous...let's look at the origins....neither Greek or Hebrew texts ever mention the word Palestine. In fact, ROMANS assigned that name to the ancient land of Israel...not any Arab group or Palestinians..they did not exist...the people were Hebrew or Semites and the land was known as Canaan. All this occurred BEFORE Muhammad or Islam had ever been born.
The name of the city of Jerusalem though did exist and the Romans even tried renaming it.

. The Hebrew term Pelesheth, which refers to the land of the ancient Philistines—Philistia—is erroneously translated in the King James Version as “Palestina” in Exodus 15:14 and in Isaiah 14:29 and 31, and as “Palestine” in Joel 3:4. The New King James Version correctly reads “Philistia”—the land of the Philistines—in every case noted above.

So we can argue about what it is called till the day ends and begins again...fact is Jews were in the world long before either Christianity or Islam were ever born...so they were in the land of the Hebrews first...that said...today is a different time and we need to search for a peaceful solution that does not give one the rights over the other...each need to learn to live with the accords without trying to push the other into the sea...Arabs, not Palestinians, because they are Arabs..there is no ancient Palestinian people, and Jews are the same friggin race..just different religions...either let them live together or let them have their own lands...and make Gaza and the West bank no man's land.

When the state of Palestine was defined by the League of Nations in 1922 the population consisted of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. These people became Palestinians. Whatever they were called before is irrelevant. Most of those people had been there for hundreds even thousands of years. These people can be considered Palestine's native population. There was an amicable relationship among these people.

The Palestinians proposed a democratic state with equal rights for all. None of them, including the Jews, wanted a Jewish state imposed by foreigners.

Repeating the same mistakes doesn't make them correct, it just shows your defeat.

The League of Nations' intent was the establishment of a Jewish state.

US President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”
 
all this arguing about Palestine v Israel is ridiculous...let's look at the origins....neither Greek or Hebrew texts ever mention the word Palestine. In fact, ROMANS assigned that name to the ancient land of Israel...not any Arab group or Palestinians..they did not exist...the people were Hebrew or Semites and the land was known as Canaan. All this occurred BEFORE Muhammad or Islam had ever been born.
The name of the city of Jerusalem though did exist and the Romans even tried renaming it.



So we can argue about what it is called till the day ends and begins again...fact is Jews were in the world long before either Christianity or Islam were ever born...so they were in the land of the Hebrews first...that said...today is a different time and we need to search for a peaceful solution that does not give one the rights over the other...each need to learn to live with the accords without trying to push the other into the sea...Arabs, not Palestinians, because they are Arabs..there is no ancient Palestinian people, and Jews are the same friggin race..just different religions...either let them live together or let them have their own lands...and make Gaza and the West bank no man's land.

When the state of Palestine was defined by the League of Nations in 1922 the population consisted of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. These people became Palestinians. Whatever they were called before is irrelevant. Most of those people had been there for hundreds even thousands of years. These people can be considered Palestine's native population. There was an amicable relationship among these people.

The Palestinians proposed a democratic state with equal rights for all. None of them, including the Jews, wanted a Jewish state imposed by foreigners.

Repeating the same mistakes doesn't make them correct, it just shows your defeat.

The League of Nations' intent was the establishment of a Jewish state.

US President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Not!
 
When the state of Palestine was defined by the League of Nations in 1922 the population consisted of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. These people became Palestinians. Whatever they were called before is irrelevant. Most of those people had been there for hundreds even thousands of years. These people can be considered Palestine's native population. There was an amicable relationship among these people.

The Palestinians proposed a democratic state with equal rights for all. None of them, including the Jews, wanted a Jewish state imposed by foreigners.

Repeating the same mistakes doesn't make them correct, it just shows your defeat.

The League of Nations' intent was the establishment of a Jewish state.

US President Woodrow Wilson, founder of the League of Nations...
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”

Not!

You lost the debate, champ. You came to a gun fight armed only with a pocket knife.

Woodrow Wilson presents draft covenant for League of Nations
Wilson presents draft covenant for League of Nations — History.com This Day in History — 2/14/1919

The initial draft of the Covenant of the League of Nations was completed in early 1919, under the close supervision of President Woodrow Wilson.
Covenant of the League of Nations

Woodrow Wilson unveiled the Draft Covenant of the League of Nations. The "Big Four" - Wilson, Lloyd George, Clemenceau, and Orlando - sit in the center, and other prominent figures such as Colonel House and Arthur Balfour are close by. The second painting is of the signing of the peace treaty in the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles. It shows the back of the German delegate slumped in a chair with an aide stooping alongside, under the scrutiny of the virtually the same array of conference leaders.

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Woodrow Wilson...
I am persuaded that the Allied nations, with the fullest concurrence of our own government and people, are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundation of a Jewish Commonwealth”
 
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"Abu Mazen's decision to go to the U.N. without consulting with Palestinian factions about the negative and positive impact of such a move and with only partial Arab, Islamic and international support is something very risky," said Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum.
Who in his right mind cares?!
 
from the time these territories were conquered by Jordan, Syria and Egypt in 1948...
Conquered? None of those countries were at war with Palestine.
True, we've always maintained that palistanian "occupation" business is one big load of bullshittt.
 

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