Pain at the Plug

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    I take that then as a total endorsement of fracking and the mandate to immediately build about 120 new gas plants to replace the 40 coal plants that are being shut by Fed policy next year.. That'll just break us even and DOESN'T address the OP..

    The OP asks WHERE the ADDITIONAL power to charge EVs and still keep the rates down will come from.. If we follow the policies in Europe, and pursue Conservation more than we value increased production, there will be HUGE FINES for exceeding your allotment of electricity.. THAT WILL be REAL "pain at the plug".
     
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    Of course, if one has an electric vehicle with good range, there is no need to worry about the pain at the plug if you also become a producer of electricity. For most homeowners, that is the practical solution. Wind and solar for small units have both come down in price.
     
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    Why doesn't Obama make loan guarantees to coal fired power plants so they can install scrubbers and other pollutant-capturing devices? Seems to be a more prudent investment.
     
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    do you guys remember all the coal mine disastors under Bush?
     
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    Democrats not only have to stop coal mining, they also have to prevent fracking, which might be easier.

    So far, obama's war on coal has resulted in the coal miner's unions in Ohio and Kentucky asking it's members to sit out the election and not vote. How many will really do that? They won't vote for obama but that's about all we know for sure.
     
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    As long as coal producers cover all their economic externality costs, rather than relying on society to pay the costs of the damages coal is responsible for, I certainly have no problem with its continued production and utilization. As for fracking, as far as I can tell, there is no compelling evidence yet available that the process is causing widespread damages. It certainly can be negligently and improperly abused, but for the most part this doesn't seem to be the case. I've nothing against a properly regulated and monitored fracking industry.
     

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