Overpaid CEOs and Greedy Capitalists.. oh my!

[Skull Pilot]

Look folks what a privately owned company pays it's CEOs employees or whoever is not your concern.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Look folks what a privately owned company pays it's CEOs employees or whoever is not your concern.

especially since altogether CEO's don't make enough to run the government for half a day

why don't they worry about the $trillions wasted on crippling welfare entitlements that were supposed to be a hand up rather than a crippling intergenerational hand out

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

That's more an indictment of our corrupt politicians than corporations.

A reasonable paraphrase of your statement is it is okay to buy corrupt politicos.

In your world is it okay to buy pussy but not okay to sell it?

Would you prosecute spies for buying information?

Where are you on buyers of illegal drugs?

It's not illegal to ask anyone for favors. The person who accepts the bribe is more guilty especially when they are supposed to be representing us.

In my world of 2 consenting adults wanted to enter into a monetary transaction for sex it would be none of my business.

Again the person selling the info is more guilty than the spy IMHO.

Thanks for confirming the United States deserves the fucking it is getting from corporations. That tickles the hell out of me.

 

[Skull Pilot]

A reasonable paraphrase of your statement is it is okay to buy corrupt politicos.

In your world is it okay to buy pussy but not okay to sell it?

Would you prosecute spies for buying information?

Where are you on buyers of illegal drugs?

It's not illegal to ask anyone for favors. The person who accepts the bribe is more guilty especially when they are supposed to be representing us.

In my world of 2 consenting adults wanted to enter into a monetary transaction for sex it would be none of my business.

Again the person selling the info is more guilty than the spy IMHO.

Thanks for confirming the United States deserves the fucking it is getting from corporations. That tickles the hell out of me.

It's the politicians that are fucking you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Thanks for confirming the United States deserves the fucking it is getting from corporations. That tickles the hell out of me.

yes well all work for them and we all have the highest standard of living in human history!! THey are so mean to us indeed!!

see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

 

[Sallow]

Those Kings were rich, right?
They got rich by socializing cost and privatizing profit.
Not unlike some of today's corporate royalty.

"The ratio of CEO-to-worker pay has increased 1,000 percent since 1950, according to data from Bloomberg. Today Fortune 500 CEOs make 204 times regular workers on average, Bloomberg found. The ratio is up from 120-to-1 in 2000, 42-to-1 in 1980 and 20-to-1 in 1950."

Are you worth a thousand times more than you were in 1950?

CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report

George, just as a counterpoint...

Companies have changed a lot since the 1950's. What was once a local or regional corporation is now a global corporation.

Think of it this way; say we have a town with 3 corporations and 3 CEOs making x $'s. If one of those corporations buys out the other two (a trend since the 1950's), do you think the "top" guy is going to make more or less than before?

Not saying this explains everything, just bringing up a counterpoint.


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It kinda does.

Basically shows how bad the "too big to fail" thing really is..

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's the politicians that are fucking you.

Republicans sign the pledge so politicians won't have the power to be mean to you!!

A liberal will lack the IQ to understand that

 

[Sallow]

Thanks for confirming the United States deserves the fucking it is getting from corporations. That tickles the hell out of me.

yes well all work for them and we all have the highest standard of living in human history!! THey are so mean to us indeed!!

see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?

Eyah..

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[Sallow]

It's not illegal to ask anyone for favors. The person who accepts the bribe is more guilty especially when they are supposed to be representing us.

In my world of 2 consenting adults wanted to enter into a monetary transaction for sex it would be none of my business.

Again the person selling the info is more guilty than the spy IMHO.

Thanks for confirming the United States deserves the fucking it is getting from corporations. That tickles the hell out of me.

It's the politicians that are fucking you.

It's a double whammy man.

The CEOs provide the bucks..the politicians provide the sticks.

And we get fucked.

 

[Sallow]

Look folks what a privately owned company pays it's CEOs employees or whoever is not your concern.

especially since altogether CEO's don't make enough to run the government for half a day

why don't they worry about the $trillions wasted on crippling welfare entitlements that were supposed to be a hand up rather than a crippling intergenerational hand out

Actually..they do.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

yes well we all work for corporations and we all have the highest standard of living in human history!! THey are so mean to us indeed!!

see why we are 100% positive a liberal will be slow?[/QUOTE]

Eyah..

well dear, corporations employ people so they are our greatest weapon against poverty. This would be obvious to a child- right?

 

[Rozman]

I wonder if those folks that have a problem with how much CEO's are paid have any issues
with how much movie stars,TV stars,athletes,politicians are paid?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I wonder if those folks that have a problem with how much CEO's are paid have any issues
with how much movie stars,TV stars,athletes,politicians are paid?

Marx only taught them to be anti-business so apparently its ok to make heros out of guys who throw balls for $20 million!!

 

[Rozman]

I never got a job from someone that had no money.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I never got a job from someone that had no money.

yep, jobs come from people with money and products to sell. Thank God for our corporations!

Liberals probably see their own mothers as enemies too!!

 

[georgephillip]

Tell me what your version of the "market" is free from?
Is it free of undue rentier (FIRE sector) influence or free from democratic regulation?
We live in a country where liberal and conservative politicians depend on the same 1% of the population to fund their election campaigns and retirements.
In 2008 that oligarchy nearly collapsed the global economy, putting millions of productive workers out of work and, in some cases, out of their homes, as well.
In spite of that epidemic of control accounting fraud we have yet to see a single capitalist prosecuted, much less convicted and jailed, in fact we've just seen one more appointed to Obama's Cabinet.
It seems to me "competing capitalists" are just as corrupt as statists when they seize the levers of government.

It's difficult to comprehend this post, you seem to be jumping around from one meme to another in an emotive rant, but I understand you think it's making perfect sense.

"Free market" means, a market structure in which the distribution and costs of goods and services, along with the structure and hierarchy between capital and consumer goods, are coordinated by supply and demand unhindered by external regulation or control by government or monopolies. "Free enterprise" means we live in a society where you are free to compete in the free market system. Competition in this system ensures the best prices and quality for consumers, across the board. Nothing ever tried in the history of man, has EVER been as successful at raising overall quality of life, bringing people out of poverty, and creating millionaires. NOTHING.

What you and the Occutards want, is a Socialist-Marxist system, where the State controls prices instead of supply and demand, where the State holds monopolies and there is no capitalist competition. This system leads to graft and corruption on a scale we can't even fathom in a free market system, because there is no mechanism of competition. The wealth is not redistributed, it is accumulated by the "New 1%" who are now the people who control all the political power... not just "influence" it, but actually control it outright!

Yeah...after rereading my post, I feel your pain.

Let's start with what sort of "free market" you are talking about.
Adam Smith is where I would start: He wanted a market free of the influence of hereditary (eternal) wealth, "the masters of mankind." Today's masters of mankind who control the economic life of this country also tend to control US politics; they are multinational corporations and financial institutions who reinforce Smith's lesson and help explain why the state-corporate complex is the biggest threat to individual freedom and unfettered competition.

 

[georgephillip]

why on earth would idiot liberals care what CEO's make??

Even if you stole half of what all the fortune 500 CEO's make it would run the government for about 8 hours!!!

half of what they make is about $3 billion per year, one bad decision can cost just WalMart alone (sales $500 billion) more than that!!

It seems CEO's are under paid if anything!!

It depends on the CEO. The average CEO makes $87,000/yr and earns every cent of it. I seriously doubt that most of the ones making over 25 million are worth the money they are paid.

dear, I just told you what they make is trivial considering that just one bad decision at Walmart can cost far more than all the fortune 500 CEO's make together!!

It would be stupid and negligent for Walmart not to find the very best person in the world and pay him whatever considering $500 billion in sales is at risk!! Ever heard of Sears?????

Its very much like A Rod getting $20 million. It makes sense, harms no one, helps everyone
and is a moral obligation of owners.

Except A-Rod competes on a level playing field, policed to the highest standards of impartiality with no corporate lawyers allowed. In other words, Enron or Wall Mart never make it to batting practice.

 

[georgephillip]

we created the Fed to bail out companies to avoid runs and depression which is what was happening as Lehman and Bear failed.

WE ?

Are you a Rothschild ?

dear, it was the President and Congress who authorized the bailouts to prevent depression, not the Rothchilds.

Are you a typical conspiracy nut?

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws."
Who said that, a president, a congress, or a Rothschild?

Give Me Control of a Nation?s Money ?

 

[georgephillip]

Those Kings were rich, right?
They got rich by socializing cost and privatizing profit.
Not unlike some of today's corporate royalty.

"The ratio of CEO-to-worker pay has increased 1,000 percent since 1950, according to data from Bloomberg. Today Fortune 500 CEOs make 204 times regular workers on average, Bloomberg found. The ratio is up from 120-to-1 in 2000, 42-to-1 in 1980 and 20-to-1 in 1950."

Are you worth a thousand times more than you were in 1950?

CEO-To-Worker Pay Ratio Ballooned 1,000 Percent Since 1950: Report

A small handful of CEOs are paid at that level, which is distorted via the tax code due to expensing of stock options.

Kings didn't privatize profit and socialize risk...they were The State. Everyone else was in a subservient/feudal relationship. To think a CEO is a king is absolute nonsense (except, of course, to Larry Ellison).

British royals got rich from selling opium in China.
That's a lot of private profit "earned" from socializing loss.
CEOs are creatures of corporations which are themselves creatures of the courts.
(Unless you think corporations are people).
In the early 20th Century courts and lawyers began devising a new corporate socioeconomic system primarily in the states.
These changes weren't accomplished democratically. In fact, the background is remarkably similar to that of Bolshevism and fascism, and people who called themselves progressives at that time were among their biggest supporters:

"They said, individual rights are gone. We are in a period of corporatization of power, consolidation of power, centralization.

"That's supposed to be good if you're a progressive, like a Marxist-Leninist.

"Out of that same background came three major things: fascism, Bolshevism, and corporate tyranny.

"They all grew out of the same more or less Hegelian roots.

"It's fairly recent.

"We think of corporations as immutable, but they were designed.

"It was a conscious design which worked as Adam Smith said: the principal architects of policy consolidate state power and use it for their interests.

"It was certainly not popular will. It's basically court decisions and lawyers' decisions, which created a form of private tyranny which is now more massive in many ways than even state tyranny was."

Education is Ignorance, by Noam Chomsky (Excerpted from Class Warfare)

 

[georgephillip]

Look folks what a privately owned company pays it's CEOs employees or whoever is not your concern.

especially since altogether CEO's don't make enough to run the government for half a day

why don't they worry about the $trillions wasted on crippling welfare entitlements that were supposed to be a hand up rather than a crippling intergenerational hand out

Or the two unfunded wars a Republican president and his hearty band of conservative neo-cons shackled the next three generations of Americans to.