Over 90% of Americans support background checks for gun purchases

[Kerry Won Ohio2]

I'm a Republican, pro-gun, and would never join the NRA. I think at times they can be a bit over the top.

That said, how could someone who insists on background checks be against something like voter I.D.?

Who said I was against a voter ID or any type of national ID card? The government should just be fair about it and issue one to every American.

However, that's not what the democracy-hating Repug Party wants to do and we both know it. They want to make poor people and college kids travel 50 miles a way to pick up their voter ID or force them to pay for one. These are the clever voter suppression tactics of the Repug Nazi Party because they can't win elections on a level playing field anymore, at least not the White House.

Quote anyone that claims they want to make anyone drive 50 miles or pay for an ID. You can't just spew left wing rhetoric without backing it up.

So you want free voter ID? Send me a free gun, OK?

Yes, Repugs are going to come out and say that, idiot. But that's the ONLY reason they want to implement these bullshit voter ID laws. There is virtually no evidence of voter fraud anywhere. So why do it? They want to create new ways to prevent people from voting because that's the only way they're going to be able to win elections in the future.

There's a simple solution -- issue the voter IDs to all registered voters in the mail. Yet Repugs are against this type of implementation of voter IDs because there is no advantage for them if they do it that way.

Last time I checked, a voter ID never killed anyone. Fucking retard.

 

[2aguy]

Look asswipe....point to where I said that...asswipe. How many nuts actually shoot people in this country...not many at all. So we have to be careful how we implement mental health into our background check system because asswipes like you and the other gun grabbers will exploit any good faith attempt to solve the problem to keep normal people from owning guns.

We know this how? Because none of the other ideas you suggest to stop mass shootings would actually stop mass shootings...but they do make felons out of normal people...so fuck you.

And how else do we know...because in Britain they are now talking about requiring a Doctor to sign off on your mental health before you can buy a gun...that is where it will go....and as the British guy pointed out...which Doctor is going to sign off on anyone getting a gun knowing that they will be sued into poverty if they make a mistake...

So...again...fuck you.

Your dumb ass just said a background check wouldn't have prevented Virginia Tech, even though a fucking state court declared him mentally ill !!!! How can any SANE person really believe that horseshit??? So you KNOW you are wrong about that. Of course you'll never admit that, being the intellectually dishonest little pussy that you are.

Instead, you write several paragraphs of nonsense. In your perverse mind, some people who are unfairly prevented from buying guns due to possible flaws in a background check system is more important than saving lives. All new systems have flaws at first, rube. That's not a legitimate reason not to do it, especially when lives are at stake.

You're a fucking NRA fanatic and you just can't control what comes out of your stupid fucking mouth.

He passed the fucking background check asswipe. And if mental health info. was in a new background check system he would simply have stolen the gun or had someone buy the gun for him...asswipe.....

It isn't a flaw that gets worked out in time....it is a flaw that makes the system stupid......criminal and the mentally ill can get guns by stealing them or by getting people with clean records to buy their guns........moron....thereby making even mental health checks useless

Look asswipe....point to where I said that...asswipe. How many nuts actually shoot people in this country...not many at all. So we have to be careful how we implement mental health into our background check system because asswipes like you and the other gun grabbers will exploit any good faith attempt to solve the problem to keep normal people from owning guns.

We know this how? Because none of the other ideas you suggest to stop mass shootings would actually stop mass shootings...but they do make felons out of normal people...so fuck you.

And how else do we know...because in Britain they are now talking about requiring a Doctor to sign off on your mental health before you can buy a gun...that is where it will go....and as the British guy pointed out...which Doctor is going to sign off on anyone getting a gun knowing that they will be sued into poverty if they make a mistake...

So...again...fuck you.

Your dumb ass just said a background check wouldn't have prevented Virginia Tech, even though a fucking state court declared him mentally ill !!!! How can any SANE person really believe that horseshit??? So you KNOW you are wrong about that. Of course you'll never admit that, being the intellectually dishonest little pussy that you are.

Instead, you write several paragraphs of nonsense. In your perverse mind, some people who are unfairly prevented from buying guns due to possible flaws in a background check system is more important than saving lives. All new systems have flaws at first, rube. That's not a legitimate reason not to do it, especially when lives are at stake.

You're a fucking NRA fanatic and you just can't control what comes out of your stupid fucking mouth.

He passed the fucking background check asswipe. And if mental health info. was in a new background check system he would simply have stolen the gun or had someone buy the gun for him...asswipe.....

It isn't a flaw that gets worked out in time....it is a flaw that makes the system stupid......criminal and the mentally ill can get guns by stealing them or by getting people with clean records to buy their guns........moron....thereby making even mental health checks useless

What a dishonest little pussy you are. You're going to tell me that a new federal background check system is not going to look at state court records???? Really??? Even you know that's total bullshit. That's why you're against universal background checks, like all right-wing crazies. Because you know it would WORK.

You're a pathetic little NRA bitch.

Okay asswipe...I posted this in another thread.....they have Universal Background Checks in Washington state...and this kid got the gun any way.....here is how...moron...

I have stated in posts over and over that current federally mandated background checks are simply bypassed by actual criminals because they either steal their guns or use people who can pass a background check buy the gun….and here we have a case of a state with Universal Background checks….and they were bypassed…..just as I said they would be….

So anti gun extremists…your desire to punish law abiding people who want to own guns by implementing background checks is shown to be a stupid, pointless idea…….

Background Checks Powerless Again: Father of Gunman Faces Charges for Falsifying Purchase Forms - Breitbart

On September 29, Raymond Fryberg–father of Marysville-Pilchuck High School gunman Jaylen Fryberg–was found guilty of six firearm-related charges, including falsifying answers on federal forms for the purchase of a Beretta Px4 Storm handgun.

It was the Beretta handgun that 15-year-old Jaylen used to kill four students and wound another on October 24, 2014. He then took his own life.

According to Reuters, Raymond Fryberg was prohibited from buying or possessing a gun due to “a non-expiring domestic violence restraining order in 2002 after he was accused of assaulting and threatening his girlfriend.” Yet Fryberg purchased the Beretta and four other guns in 2013.

He passed a background check for the Beretta, something which prosecutors say he did by “[lying] on federal forms.” KOMO News reported that Fryberg was arrested on March 31 on charges that he “illegally purchased the firearm used in the mass shooting.”

Having been found guilty, Fryberg is scheduled to be sentenced on January 11.

It should be noted that Washington state’s new universal background check law passed by a small margin on November 4–just under two weeks after the Marysville shooting–with pledges that more background checks would reduce gun crime. However, Fryberg’s example proves again that background checks are impotent against determined criminals or those who are determined to get their hands on a gun at all costs.


Sooooo…he lied on his background check form…..a Universal Background check state….and he got the gun…and then his kid got the gun and killed people…..
So….the guy could not legally buy the gun under existing laws, and should not have been able to guy the gun due to both types of background check regimes, the old one…and now the Universal one……
Did background checks stop this guy from getting a gun…no.
Did background checks stop this guys son from killing people…no.
Since this guy could not legally own the gun in the first place…would licensing all gun owners have stopped him in any way….no.
Since this guy could not legally own the gun in the first place….would registering all guns have stopped this shooting….no.
In fact, a Supreme Court decision made it un Constitutional to force criminals from registering their illegal guns due to the 5th Amendment protection against self incrimination……
So a failure of anti gun extremism on all fronts...

Blah, blah, blah....a state court declares the kid who shot up Virginia Tech mentally ill and you're going to tell me that a new universal background check system wouldn't identify this before he purchased a gun. You already lost the argument with that horseshit.

This is essentially what you're saying above -- "Since he's going to get a gun anyway, let's just make it easier for him and bypass any effective background checks. Even though a background check could provide an effective early warning system."

Seriously, dude, you're fucking nuts.

Dipshit.....the South Carolina Church shooter, he killed 9 people...had a drug conviction that banned him from getting a gun.....he went to a gun store, submitted for a background check.....and passed...because 2 paper pushers didn't put it in the system.....he got the gun even with background checks....moron.

And the Santa Barbara shooter......passed 3 separate background checks, one for each gun.....

 

[2aguy]

I'm a Republican, pro-gun, and would never join the NRA. I think at times they can be a bit over the top.

That said, how could someone who insists on background checks be against something like voter I.D.?

Who said I was against a voter ID or any type of national ID card? The government should just be fair about it and issue one to every American.

However, that's not what the democracy-hating Repug Party wants to do and we both know it. They want to make poor people and college kids travel 50 miles a way to pick up their voter ID or force them to pay for one. These are the clever voter suppression tactics of the Repug Nazi Party because they can't win elections on a level playing field anymore, at least not the White House.

Quote anyone that claims they want to make anyone drive 50 miles or pay for an ID. You can't just spew left wing rhetoric without backing it up.

So you want free voter ID? Send me a free gun, OK?

Yes, Repugs are going to come out and say that, idiot. But that's the ONLY reason they want to implement these bullshit voter ID laws. There is virtually no evidence of voter fraud anywhere. So why do it? They want to create new ways to prevent people from voting because that's the only way they're going to be able to win elections in the future.

There's a simple solution -- issue the voter IDs to all registered voters in the mail. Yet Repugs are against this type of implementation of voter IDs because there is no advantage for them if they do it that way.

Last time I checked, a voter ID never killed anyone. Fucking retard.

Dipshit....state IDs for voting are free....and a state worker will come to your home to give you the fucking ID.....moron.

 

[Geaux4it]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

The point is the deranged NRA terrorists are against this.

And there are lots of ways to legally buy guns without background checks, such as gun shows.

Go and protest the removal of tags off mattresses

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

Registration leads to confiscation. We don't need gun registration databases

-Geaux

 

[OKTexas]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

The point is the deranged NRA terrorists are against this.

And there are lots of ways to legally buy guns without background checks, such as gun shows.

They is only one way to buy a gun without a background check, that is to buy it from an individual that isn't in the gun business, in person. That's it.

 

[2aguy]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

The point is the deranged NRA terrorists are against this.

And there are lots of ways to legally buy guns without background checks, such as gun shows.

They is only one way to buy a gun without a background check, that is to buy it from an individual that isn't in the gun business, in person. That's it.

You know how you stop that....mark the shoulders of gun criminals after they are convicted..that way a private seller can know right away if the buyer can buy the gun...they just ask to see their shoulder...if they see the mark, they know not to sell the gun.....

I know...criminals steal their guns or get people with clean records to buy the gun for them.....

The mark allows the private seller and even gun stores and gun vendors at gun shows to know immediately if the buyer can have guns...without having to do a background check...it is immediate, and paper less and leaves no trail for law abiding gun owners.

 

[OKTexas]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

The point is the deranged NRA terrorists are against this.

And there are lots of ways to legally buy guns without background checks, such as gun shows.

They is only one way to buy a gun without a background check, that is to buy it from an individual that isn't in the gun business, in person. That's it.

You know how you stop that....mark the shoulders of gun criminals after they are convicted..that way a private seller can know right away if the buyer can buy the gun...they just ask to see their shoulder...if they see the mark, they know not to sell the gun.....

I know...criminals steal their guns or get people with clean records to buy the gun for them.....

The mark allows the private seller and even gun stores and gun vendors at gun shows to know immediately if the buyer can have guns...without having to do a background check...it is immediate, and paper less and leaves no trail for law abiding gun owners.

Can't use a permanent mark because gun rights can be restored.

 

[OKTexas]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

The point is the deranged NRA terrorists are against this.

You seem to have some kind of problem with the NRA. What is it?

What's your problem with being against background checks?

And there are lots of ways to legally buy guns without background checks, such as gun shows.

While you are correct if you're talking about the black market, background checks are required for transactions at gun shows. You've been disinformed.

No, you're misinformed ("disinformed" isn't a word, dipshit).

Is that so? Dipshit

Bill would require background checks for private sales at gun shows

A House Democrat has introduced legislation that would require sellers to obtain a background check for all guns sold at gun shows.

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday reintroduced the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act, a bill long championed by former Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.),.

I just attended the largest gun show in NY. Background checks are required for ALL firearms transactions.

Sorry about your retarded luck.

The bill would subject anyone selling or transferring a gun to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and require that transfers be reported to the attorney general.
Maloney said a background check is required when a Federal Firearm Licensee wants to sell firearms at a gun show, but no such requirement exists for private sales.

Requiring background checks is retarded for OBVIOUS reasons...requiring a background check before I hand one of my shotguns to my dad in the duck blind is just taking retarded to a brand new level.

Gun show operators would be required to register with the attorney general and provide information on upcoming shows, including the identity of all firearm vendors, and keep a record of all vendors’ identities.

As retarded as it is, this already happens.

Considering how obviously stupid background check requirements are, what is your problem with the folks who are against them?

Obviously, background checks are not performed at guns shows nationwide. Only an idiot believes that. That's why the bill was introduced in Congress. And it's also possible to purchase guns over the Internet.

Any hand gun shipped across a State line must go through a FFL holder in the recipients State, where a background check will be done. You really are ignorant on this subject. Ya might want to shut your yap.

 

[OKTexas]

Stupid fuck....he was never institutionalized...and he passed a background check for his guns...moron....


Virginia Tech shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After an investigation, a Virginia special justice declared Cho mentally ill and ordered him to attend treatment; however, because he was not institutionalized, he was still allowed to purchase guns.

So you think someone who was declared mentally ill by a state court should be allowed to buy guns??? How fucking CRAZY are you?

You just proved my point, you fucking idiot. A federal background check law would have prevented Virginia Tech.

Look asswipe....point to where I said that...asswipe. How many nuts actually shoot people in this country...not many at all. So we have to be careful how we implement mental health into our background check system because asswipes like you and the other gun grabbers will exploit any good faith attempt to solve the problem to keep normal people from owning guns.

We know this how? Because none of the other ideas you suggest to stop mass shootings would actually stop mass shootings...but they do make felons out of normal people...so fuck you.

And how else do we know...because in Britain they are now talking about requiring a Doctor to sign off on your mental health before you can buy a gun...that is where it will go....and as the British guy pointed out...which Doctor is going to sign off on anyone getting a gun knowing that they will be sued into poverty if they make a mistake...

So...again...fuck you.

Your dumb ass just said a background check wouldn't have prevented Virginia Tech, even though a fucking state court declared him mentally ill !!!! How can any SANE person really believe that horseshit??? So you KNOW you are wrong about that. Of course you'll never admit that, being the intellectually dishonest little pussy that you are.

Instead, you write several paragraphs of nonsense. In your perverse mind, some people who are unfairly prevented from buying guns due to possible flaws in a background check system is more important than saving lives. All new systems have flaws at first, rube. That's not a legitimate reason not to do it, especially when lives are at stake.

You're a fucking NRA fanatic and you just can't control what comes out of your stupid fucking mouth.

He passed the fucking background check asswipe. And if mental health info. was in a new background check system he would simply have stolen the gun or had someone buy the gun for him...asswipe.....

It isn't a flaw that gets worked out in time....it is a flaw that makes the system stupid......criminal and the mentally ill can get guns by stealing them or by getting people with clean records to buy their guns........moron....thereby making even mental health checks useless

Stupid fuck....he was never institutionalized...and he passed a background check for his guns...moron....


Virginia Tech shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After an investigation, a Virginia special justice declared Cho mentally ill and ordered him to attend treatment; however, because he was not institutionalized, he was still allowed to purchase guns.

So you think someone who was declared mentally ill by a state court should be allowed to buy guns??? How fucking CRAZY are you?

You just proved my point, you fucking idiot. A federal background check law would have prevented Virginia Tech.

Look asswipe....point to where I said that...asswipe. How many nuts actually shoot people in this country...not many at all. So we have to be careful how we implement mental health into our background check system because asswipes like you and the other gun grabbers will exploit any good faith attempt to solve the problem to keep normal people from owning guns.

We know this how? Because none of the other ideas you suggest to stop mass shootings would actually stop mass shootings...but they do make felons out of normal people...so fuck you.

And how else do we know...because in Britain they are now talking about requiring a Doctor to sign off on your mental health before you can buy a gun...that is where it will go....and as the British guy pointed out...which Doctor is going to sign off on anyone getting a gun knowing that they will be sued into poverty if they make a mistake...

So...again...fuck you.

Your dumb ass just said a background check wouldn't have prevented Virginia Tech, even though a fucking state court declared him mentally ill !!!! How can any SANE person really believe that horseshit??? So you KNOW you are wrong about that. Of course you'll never admit that, being the intellectually dishonest little pussy that you are.

Instead, you write several paragraphs of nonsense. In your perverse mind, some people who are unfairly prevented from buying guns due to possible flaws in a background check system is more important than saving lives. All new systems have flaws at first, rube. That's not a legitimate reason not to do it, especially when lives are at stake.

You're a fucking NRA fanatic and you just can't control what comes out of your stupid fucking mouth.

He passed the fucking background check asswipe. And if mental health info. was in a new background check system he would simply have stolen the gun or had someone buy the gun for him...asswipe.....

It isn't a flaw that gets worked out in time....it is a flaw that makes the system stupid......criminal and the mentally ill can get guns by stealing them or by getting people with clean records to buy their guns........moron....thereby making even mental health checks useless

What a dishonest little pussy you are. You're going to tell me that a new federal background check system is not going to look at state court records???? Really??? Even you know that's total bullshit. That's why you're against universal background checks, like all right-wing crazies. Because you know it would WORK.

You're a pathetic little NRA bitch.

It's up to the States to update the database, many don't have the will, money or manpower required to do it. What's your fix for that, another unconstitutional unfunded federal mandate?

 

[BluesLegend]

So go into any gun store and try to buy one without a background check...

You'll leave empty-handed.

Since gun control advocates were bitch slapped by the SCOTUS they have been discombobulated. Their campaign of anti-gun lies and propaganda failed. Background checks are already in place. The fools throw themselves onto the 2nd amendment to no avail, its carved into granite.

 

[Stephanie]

LOL
why not make it 100%. hell go over the moon and make it 110%

what a baby. anyone take that serious and you'd be a fool

 

[Obiwan]

LOL
why not make it 100%. hell go over the moon and make it 110%

what a baby. anyone take that serious and you'd be a fool

I'm surprised they don't, since Democrats have a nasty habit of voting multiple times anyway...

 

[Stephanie]

LOL
why not make it 100%. hell go over the moon and make it 110%

what a baby. anyone take that serious and you'd be a fool

I'm surprised they don't, since Democrats have a nasty habit of voting multiple times anyway...

they show Goebbels up with the BS propaganda in this day and age. Just like that 95% of Scientist says Globull waming is REAL AND we are all going to die if we don't Give our lives over to the elected idiots in our Government.

it's scary that some people will fall this crap